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Final 9

1st - Gets a Week 1 Bye, gets a double chance if they lose in Week 2.
2nd - Gets a Week 2 Bye if they win in Week 1. Get a double chance if they lose in Week 1.
3rd-9th - No double chances.

Week 1

1st - BYE
QF1 - 2nd v 9th
QF2 - 3rd v 8th
QF3 - 4th v 7th
QF4 - 5th v 6th

The rest of the Finals Series can be played out in four different ways depending on results.

*** Scenario #1 ***

Week 2

If 2nd wins QF1 in Week 1, they have a week off in Week 2 and advance to a Preliminary Final in Week 3.

QF5 - 1st v QF4 Winner
QF6 - QF2 Winner v QF3 Winner

Week 3

If 1st wins QF5 in Week 2, they advance to the Grand Final in Week 4.
Only one Preliminary Final in Week 3.

PF - 2nd v QF6 Winner

Week 4

GF - 1st v PF Winner

Total Number of Finals = 8 finals, one less than we have now.

*** Scenario #2 ***

Week 2

If 2nd wins QF1 in Week 1, they have a week off in Week 2 and advance to a Preliminary Final in
Week 3.

QF5 - 1st v QF4 Winner
QF6 - QF2 Winner v QF3 Winner

Week 3

If QF4 Winner upsets 1st in QF5 in Week 2, we have two Preliminary Finals in
Week 3.

PF1 - 1st v QF6 Winner
PF2 - 2nd v QF5 Winner

Week 4

GF - PF1 Winner v PF2 Winner

Total Number of Finals = 9 finals, the same number we have now.

*** Scenario #3 ***

Week 2

If 9th upsets 2nd in QF1 in Week 1, we have three finals in Week 2.

QF5 - 1st v 9th
QF6 - 2nd v QF4 Winner
QF7 - QF2 Winner v QF3 Winner

Week 3

If 1st wins QF5, they advance to the Grand Final in Week 4.
We have one Preliminary Final.

PF - QF6 Winner v QF7 Winner

Week 4

GF - 1st v PF Winner

Total Number of Finals = 9 finals, the same number we have now.

*** Scenario #4 ***

Week 2

If 9th upsets 2nd in QF1 in Week 1, we have three finals in Week 2.

QF5 - 1st v 9th
QF6 - 2nd v QF4 Winner
QF7 - QF2 Winner v QF3 Winner

Week 3

If 9th pulls off another stunning upset, this time over the Minor Premiers, we have two Preliminary Finals.

PF1 - 1st v QF6 Winner
PF2 - QF7 Winner v 9th

Week 4

GF - PF1 Winner v PF2 Winner

Total Number of Finals = 10 finals, one more than we have now!!!!

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Scenario #1 is still most likely to happen, but if 9th pulls off two great upsets in Scenario #4 then a bonus 10th final takes place for the AFL.

AFL wouldn't go for this I know. Too complex for the average joe to follow I'd imagine and more likely to only have 8 finals (Scenario #1). Still think the AFL will stick with the current Final 8 when the comp expands to 18.
 
WTF? Ok, props for you for coming up with something to pass the time, but odd numbers of teams in the finals I feel is a no-no, particularly with the number of teams that will
apparantly be in the comp in the near future.
 

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If used on the current ladder.

Week 1 - 4 finals

Friday Night - 4th Quailfying Final
Collingwood v Adelaide - MCG

Saturday - 2nd Qualifying Final
Hawthorn v St.Kilda - MCG

Saturday Night - 3rd Quailfying Final
Sydney v Brisbane - ANZ

Sunday - 1st Qualifying Final
W.Bulldogs v North Melbourne - MCG

Week 2 - 3 finals

Friday Night - 7th Qualifying Final
Hawthorn v Sydney - MCG

Saturday Night - 6th Qualifying Final
W.Bulldogs v Collingwood - MCG

Sunday - 5th Qualifying Final
Geelong v North Melbourne - MCG

Week 3 - 1 final

Saturday Twilight - Preliminary Final
W.Bulldogs v Hawthorn - MCG

Week 4 - 1 final

Saturday Afternoon - Grand Final
Geelong v W.Bulldogs - MCG

Premiers: W.Bulldogs

Number of Finals: 9
 
You don't deserve a crack at a flag from NINTH. You don't deserve a crack at it from seventh, for God's sakes. One day the final eight is going to turn around and bite the AFL in the ars and the eighth-placed Brisbanesque middle-ground mediocrity side is going to have a charmed run and win a flag that it doesn't deserve.
 
iameviljez said:
You don't deserve a crack at a flag from NINTH. You don't deserve a crack at it from seventh, for God's sakes. One day the final eight is going to turn around and bite the AFL in the ars and the eighth-placed Brisbanesque middle-ground mediocrity side is going to have a charmed run and win a flag that it doesn't deserve.
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If you win the flag you deserve it. It doesn't matter where you finish on the ladder. If a team comes 8th and wins 4 finals in a row they will deserve it.
 
Awesome, more crud teams to choc up September. You do know that Collingwood's effort to make the Prelim last year was only the second time a 5th to 8th team has made it that far under the current system, let alone gone on to win it all.

And they needed extra time in WA to do it. A top 6 would be more preferable.

On second thought why stop at 9? Maybe a top 13 with a repercharge round?
 
Nice idea - but I would prefer to stay with the current format

10 Years from now, maybe we can add another 2 teams from Tassie or maybe NT, and we can have a final ten with twenty teams in the comp.
 

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The Final Word said:
You do know that Collingwood's effort to make the Prelim last year was only the second time a 5th to 8th team has made it that far under the current system, let alone gone on to win it all.

And they needed extra time in WA to do it. A top 6 would be more preferable.
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The other team was Hawthorn in 2001, and they only beat Port in the semi by 3 points...however both Hawthorn and Collingwood put up a fair effort in both their respective Preliminary Finals to Essendon and Geelong in their respective years, could have potentially stolen a GF berth.

I do like the current system. You got to get into the Top 4. 5th through 8th are there for entertainment purposes with a cameo Preliminary Final appearance once every half a dozen years.
 
yeh ninthmond would love it but 9/16 doesn't deserve the spot as the previous poster said. other than that, well done considering time and effort etc
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There's no need to change. Why the hell do some people think it necessary that half the teams are included in the finals? The ninth placed team will be just making up the numbers, anyway.

Leave it as it is - no need to move away from the final 8.
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I think he may be thinking ahead for when it's an 18 team competition.
 
Make it a final four, all four teams play each other once, home advantage determined by position, top two at the end play off in the grand final. Still four weeks of matches and everyone gets a fair crack. Plus it eliminates the also rans.
 
toorakbum said:
Make it a final four, all four teams play each other once, home advantage determined by position, top two at the end play off in the grand final. Still four weeks of matches and everyone gets a fair crack. Plus it eliminates the also rans.
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I agree with this. The bottom half of the eight has rarely done anything spectacular. I think only Adelaide in 1998, Carlton in 1999 and Collingwood in 2007 have reached the prelims (the former 2 the GF of course) from 5-8 in the last 10 years.
 
toorakbum said:
Make it a final four, all four teams play each other once, home advantage determined by position, top two at the end play off in the grand final. Still four weeks of matches and everyone gets a fair crack. Plus it eliminates the also rans.
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i like the idea of a top 4 round robin, with first place starting on 6 points, second on 4 points, third on 2 points, fourth start from scratch and the top two play in the finals.

unfortunately only leaves 7 finals and also means teams get eliminated from the title race earlier which means less interest in the finals rounds of the home and away series.

a final 9 series would have to be played out over 5 rounds. 9 gets very complicated.
 
The Final Word said:
Awesome, more crud teams to choc up September. You do know that Collingwood's effort to make the Prelim last year was only the second time a 5th to 8th team has made it that far under the current system, let alone gone on to win it all.

And they needed extra time in WA to do it. A top 6 would be more preferable.

On second thought why stop at 9? Maybe a top 13 with a repercharge round?
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Yeah, and the fact that those two Collingwood games were up there with the best games of the year greatly detracted from the finals series. Idiot.
 
FFS, dont give Vlad any ideas.
You could argue that teams that finish 7 & 8 dont deserve to play finals, why would the ninth best side deserve a spot too? Just because there will be 18 teams :eek:
 
I think all you half wits have got the wrong idea.

I think this post with Final 9 is based on the 2 new teams in the comp being a 18 team competition.

Personally even with 18 teams - the top 8 is good enough.

For you people screaming for top 5 - that's purely ridiculous. You would have teams giving up the ghost by Round 10... thats great for members!

The AFL obvisouly wants all teams fighting for a finals position, keep attendeances high, rating up all that coin stuff....

nuff said!
 

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