Finished outside finals after Flag

[damuzzdu]

Looking for a list for teams that missed finals in next year after winning the flag in the previous year.

eg Collingwood:

1990 Premiers
1991 Finished 7th (edit)

Hawthorn:

2008 Premiers
2009 Finished 9th

What is the worse a team has done after winning "the Flag" in the next year ??

TIA

 

[UpForGrabs]

Not necessarily answering your question, but...

After Melbourne won the 1964 flag, they then missed the finals for each of the next 22 seasons, before getting back there in 1987.

 

[just_kick_it]

Adelaide

1997 Premiers
1998 Premiers
1999 13th

 

[damuzzdu]

Adelaide

1997 Premiers
1998 Premiers
1999 13th

13th ouch !!!

 

[just_kick_it]

Also in '91 Collingwood finished 7th, just outside the Top 6 as it was back then.

 

[RogersResults]

Looking for a list for teams that missed finals in next year after winning the flag in the previous year.

eg Collingwood:

1990 Premiers
1991 Finished 7th (edit)

Hawthorn:

2008 Premiers
2009 Finished 9th

What is the worse a team has done after winning "the Flag" in the next year ??

TIA

Premiers who missed the finals next year:

1998 Adelaide Premiers 1999 Adelaide 13
1938 Carlton Premiers 1939 Carlton 5
1945 Carlton Premiers 1946 Carlton 6
1947 Carlton Premiers 1948 Carlton 6
1970 Carlton Premiers 1971 Carlton 5
1953 Collingwood Premiers 1954 Collingwood 7
1990 Collingwood Premiers 1991 Collingwood 7
1912 Essendon Premiers 1913 Essendon 8
1962 Essendon Premiers 1963 Essendon 5
1993 Essendon Premiers 1994 Essendon 10
1944 Fitzroy Premiers 1945 Fitzroy 6
1931 Geelong Premiers 1932 Geelong 5
1961 Hawthorn Premiers 1962 Hawthorn 9
1971 Hawthorn Premiers 1972 Hawthorn 6
1978 Hawthorn Premiers 1979 Hawthorn 7
2008 Hawthorn Premiers 2009 Hawthorn 9
1900 Melbourne Premiers 1901 Melbourne 5
1926 Melbourne Premiers 1927 Melbourne 5
1941 Melbourne Premiers 1942 Melbourne 8
1948 Melbourne Premiers 1949 Melbourne 5
1964 Melbourne Premiers 1965 Melbourne 7
1921 Richmond Premiers 1922 Richmond 5
1967 Richmond Premiers 1968 Richmond 5
1969 Richmond Premiers 1970 Richmond 6
1980 Richmond Premiers 1981 Richmond 7
1966 St Kilda Premiers 1967 St Kilda 5
1954 WB/Footscray Premiers 1955 WB/Footscray 5

Adelaide's 12 place drop is the worst.

See Also: Post Premiership Glow or Fade Out?

 

[damuzzdu]

Rogers,

Thanks. Great list. and great site

Muzz adds to his favs sites

Interesting that it seems to happening less nowdays. That would be because of final eight as opposed to final four, final five and final six. Only 4 times since 1990. Collingwood 1991, Essendon 1994, Adelaide 1999 & Hawthorn 2009.

Adelaide drop was spectacular 1st to 13th, ouch !!! Did not even make it back to finals in 2000 either. Got back to finals in 2001.

Has any other teams done that ?? ie won flag and failed to make the finals in the next 2 years ?? That would be pretty depressing for supporters.

Thanks again.

 

[RogersResults]

Has any other teams done that ?? ie won flag and failed to make the finals in the next 2 years ?? That would be pretty depressing for supporters.

Thanks again.

Adelaide 1998 - Next finals 2001
Essendon 1912 - Next finals 1922
Fitzroy 1944 – Next finals 1947
Hawthorn 1971 – Next finals 1974
Hawthorn 1978 – Next finals 1982
Melbourne 1964 – Next finals 1987
Port Adelaide 2004 – Next finals 2007
Richmond 1921 – Next finals 1924

RogersResults

 

[damuzzdu]

Adelaide 1998 - Next finals 2001
Essendon 1912 - Next finals 1922
Fitzroy 1944 – Next finals 1947
Hawthorn 1971 – Next finals 1974
Hawthorn 1978 – Next finals 1982
Melbourne 1964 – Next finals 1987
Port Adelaide 2004 – Next finals 2007
Richmond 1921 – Next finals 1924

RogersResults

Thanks.

OMG on Melbourne that is a 22 year span.

 

[just_kick_it]

Adelaide 1998 - Next finals 2001
Essendon 1912 - Next finals 1922
Fitzroy 1944 – Next finals 1947
Hawthorn 1971 – Next finals 1974
Hawthorn 1978 – Next finals 1982
Melbourne 1964 – Next finals 1987
Port Adelaide 2004 – Next finals 2007
Richmond 1921 – Next finals 1924

RogersResults

Port won the Flag in 2004 then finished 8th and played finals in 2005??

 

[damuzzdu]

Me thinks you have good point:

2005 Finals:

EF North Melbourne 6.6 7.7 10.9 11.11 (77) lost to Port Adelaide 6.1 12.3 20.6 26.8 (164)Telstra Dome Sep 4 (Sun 2:30pm)

SF Adelaide 3.4 4.7 12.9 18.15 (123) dftd Port Adelaide 2.1 3.6 4.6 5.10 (40) AAMI Stadium Sep 10 (Sat 7:30pm)

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

Melbourne (1900) = Missed in 1901
Essendon (1912) = Missed in 1913
Richmond (1921) = Missed in 1922
Melbourne (1926) = Missed in 1927
Geelong (1931) = Missed in 1932
Carlton (1938) = Missed in 1939
Melbourne (1941) = Missed in 1942
Fitzroy (1944) = Missed in 1945
Carlton (1945) = Missed in 1946
Carlton (1947) = Missed in 1948
Melbourne (1948) = Missed in 1949
Collingwood (1953) = Missed in 1954
Footscray (1954) = Missed in 1955
Hawthorn (1961) = Missed in 1962
Essendon (1962) = Missed in 1963
Melbourne (1964) = Missed in 1965
St Kilda (1966) = Missed in 1967
Richmond (1967) = Missed in 1968
Richmond (1969) = Missed in 1970
Carlton (1970) = Missed in 1971
Hawthorn (1971) = Missed in 1972
Hawthorn (1978) = Missed in 1979
Richmond (1980) = Missed in 1981
Collingwood (1990) = Missed in 1991
Essendon (1993) = Missed in 1994
Adelaide (1998) = Missed in 1999
Hawthorn (2008) = Missed in 2009
Western Bulldogs (2016) = Missed in 2017
Richmond (2020) = Missed in 2021
Geelong (2022) = Missed in 2023
Collingwood (2023) = Missed in 2024