Both teams play on the same surface, makes no difference overall
Fixture Fixture 2025 discussion
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Less games isn't something I can get behind. Don't care if the fixture is unfair with double ups. A longer Home And Away season is better than a short one.
Ultimately, no team has missed finals because of their draw. If they're good enough to play finals, they're good enough to win those games.
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When you’ve got even Robbo saying we’ve got a sh!t fixture, you know we’ve got a sh!t fixture. The AFL sh!t me.
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If you’re good enough to make the top top 4, then I’d agree the draw shouldn’t impact your ability to make the finals but between 5-8 the margins are much smaller. Plenty of teams have made finals due to an easy fixture, drawing 2 of the bottom 3 teams twice. Carlton wouldn’t have made the finals last year had they not been gifted double up’s against WCE and NM.
And by some phenomenal stroke of chance they’ll get the same again in 2025
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No team has missed finals because of their draw... Interesting idea. So you believe the top 8 teams are all deserving of their place?
Do you think teams have MADE finals because of their draw? Or even finished in a higher position eg Top 4, because of an easier fixture?
For all the banging on about "equalization" the AFL talk about, there sure are a shitload of inequalities in how the structure the game...
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In the 2024 AFL season football will be played on at least six of the seven days of the week across 21 different start times. It has brought the schedule for each team into focus.
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The real fixture says this game is Saturday April 26th.
The trade and draft threads for 2025 might get another real workout next year.
I don’t mind the fixture even though it’s a tough first couple of months. The club needs to beat these teams to be good enough to play finals.
Ultimately the only fair system is play each other twice which would take nine months. Split it in half with Victorian teams conferenced and interstate teams conferenced (5 months) then have a longer finals series against the higher finishing teams and also bottoming teams playing for final positions/draft places. You could make this more doable by disregarding existing marquee events and whoever falls on those celebratory dates then serendipity to them. AFL keeps shackling itself, and the notion of the blockbuster is a myth typically turning out to be a dud root and not much of a ‘spectacle’ at all.
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The FA Cup fixture in the UK literally uses numbered balls drawn from a barrel to allocate matches as the comp progresses. No trillion dollar deep thought supercomputer required
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I think we use the Super Computer at Melb Uni that the great Dan Andrews also used to manage Covid so effectively.
Hence the wonderful fixture.
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This is from The Age. Apparently there’s nothing wrong with the fixture. I don’t know what you’re all complaining about.
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The impact of an unequal fixture on clubs’ success is overblown, according to AFL chief executive Andrew Dillon, who admitted he was worried about the decline in the number of Indigenous players drafted.
After the first 12 months of the Dillon era at the AFL, the chief executive received strong support from senior industry figures for the job he has done in charge of the league.
Andrew Dillon defended the fixture but admitted he wanted to stop teams “bottoming out”.
But club presidents and CEOs spoken to by this masthead said the biggest question mark on the Dillon era so far was not the performance of the boss, but that of his broader administration team.
An alarming drop in the number of Indigenous players in the talent pathway, fixing the AFLW, and more heavily investing in New South Wales were the key agenda items that clubs said Dillon’s AFL needed to address in his second year.
In a broad interview with The Age, Dillon said the game was in good health in terms of the quality of football, the evenness of the competition, attendances and viewership.
Asked where he would like to see the game improve, Dillon nominated stopping struggling teams from “bottoming out” within seasons. However, he said complaints about the impact of the fixture were overstated.
“I don’t think it’s the issue that people make it out to be. I’m not sure in my time that there’s been a team that missed out on the finals because of the fixture,” he said.
“There’s certainly not a team that’s missed out on finishing in the top four or making a grand final because of the fixture. There’s so many things that go into a season.
“Yes, the fixture is important and your double match-ups are part of it. But it’s who you play, when you play them, on how many days’ break, was your best player injured when you played, or was their best player injured or suspended or whatever?
“To focus on one thing, as important as it is, I don’t think that would ultimately end up making the difference.
“Over the last 10 years, we’ve had eight clubs win the flag. Since 1995 we’ve had 14 of the 18 teams win a flag, and the four that haven’t, three of them have made a grand final. So in a generation, everyone’s got an opportunity to win.
“What I would like to even out is during the seasons, where teams bottom out and might be uncompetitive … not naming clubs. So I’d love to see that even up. And I think there’s a big chance next year that actually that will happen.”
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The impact of an unequal fixture on clubs’ success is overblown, according to AFL chief executive Andrew Dillon, who admitted he was worried about the decline in the number of Indigenous players drafted.
After the first 12 months of the Dillon era at the AFL, the chief executive received strong support from senior industry figures for the job he has done in charge of the league.
Andrew Dillon defended the fixture but admitted he wanted to stop teams “bottoming out”.
But club presidents and CEOs spoken to by this masthead said the biggest question mark on the Dillon era so far was not the performance of the boss, but that of his broader administration team.
An alarming drop in the number of Indigenous players in the talent pathway, fixing the AFLW, and more heavily investing in New South Wales were the key agenda items that clubs said Dillon’s AFL needed to address in his second year.
In a broad interview with The Age, Dillon said the game was in good health in terms of the quality of football, the evenness of the competition, attendances and viewership.
Asked where he would like to see the game improve, Dillon nominated stopping struggling teams from “bottoming out” within seasons. However, he said complaints about the impact of the fixture were overstated.
“I don’t think it’s the issue that people make it out to be. I’m not sure in my time that there’s been a team that missed out on the finals because of the fixture,” he said.
“There’s certainly not a team that’s missed out on finishing in the top four or making a grand final because of the fixture. There’s so many things that go into a season.
“Yes, the fixture is important and your double match-ups are part of it. But it’s who you play, when you play them, on how many days’ break, was your best player injured when you played, or was their best player injured or suspended or whatever?
“To focus on one thing, as important as it is, I don’t think that would ultimately end up making the difference.
“Over the last 10 years, we’ve had eight clubs win the flag. Since 1995 we’ve had 14 of the 18 teams win a flag, and the four that haven’t, three of them have made a grand final. So in a generation, everyone’s got an opportunity to win.
“What I would like to even out is during the seasons, where teams bottom out and might be uncompetitive … not naming clubs. So I’d love to see that even up. And I think there’s a big chance next year that actually that will happen.”
This is a weird one, despite numbers dropping, they're still over-represented in AFL football.
It would be concerning if they were under-represented, but that isn't the case.
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We will never know how they really see it because the powers that be are essentially forced to say it's a concern.
If they didn't then all the reporting would be about how AFL house has given up on indigenous players, or how they don't care about them etc
The fairness I want to see put into the fixture is around scheduling and exposure.
It's impossible for smaller clubs to climb their way out of the financial holes they dig when the Bombers, Blues & Hawks are hogging all the prime time FTA slots!!
