gAyFL Round

[JUBJUB]

Transvestites round.Bring Mrs Brown over for the prematch entertainment.

Could just use Brynne Edelsten.Come on,surely there's a dude under that dress.

 

[Crow_Sting]

Agree with CF.

Would like to see:
Rivalry Round
Heritage Round
Grassroots weekend or whatever it was

Not trying to be offensive or anything but why can't everyone be the same?
Don't need a round dedicated to women or indigenous people. All part of the AFL and we all know it.

 

[Killer eagle]

Reminds me of homer worrying about Bart turning gay


Moe: Come on, don't take this so hard, Homer. You still got that other kid, uh... Lisa. Let's, uh, take her out hunting tomorrow; make her into a man.
Homer: Aw, she'd never go. She's a vegetarian.
Moe: Oh, geez! Homer, geez! You and Marge ain't cousins, are you?

 

[MrNatural]

you get your dole cheque don't you? I think the Australian Taxpayers give you enough appreciation!

I'm actually one of the few in town that don't line up for the dole cheque

 

[The Goon]

Yeah but nah. I just don't get the infatuation with "recognition". Females and indigenous people have dealt with different social constraints than Jews, which, really, should keep their religion private. It's different to being a woman or indigenous.

Society is slowly becoming more accepting -- or less interested -- in whether someone is Jewish, or who is Jewish. Once the baby boomers move on, the reality is that Judaism will be more accepted, and it will be common place to have a Jewish person in the work place.

But having a "Hey, it's awesome to be Jewish! Come out and tell us!" round imo would be counterproductive to the issues Jews face imo. It should be addressed at a club level first on a private basis. It's really not important that the public knows whether or not a player is Jewish. Making it important is imo where a lot of the hostility comes from. People just don't give a shit about whether you're Jewish or not.

I know this is my second quote of this, but I thought this might show you what is so wrong about your approach to this issue.

 

[CF]

I know this is my second quote of this, but I thought this might show you what is so wrong about your approach to this issue.

I thought I was reading an excerpt from "Mein Kampf" there for a moment, Goon!

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I thought I was reading an excerpt from "Mein Kampf" there for a moment, Goon!

Have to admit I re-read that thinking "did he really say that??"

bloody good example by the Coolabah Roselle

 

[Suspense]

the aflpa campaign a few years back was pretty well done. wayne campbell had a great bob dylan quote and even über-blokey guys like balmey were involved. though it was a little wanky, it did feel somewhat authentic.

i think 'pride round' would just be another one of the afl's "OMG, look how politically correct we are!" wank-fests.

 

[STFU Donnie]

We like to think of ourselves (AFL followers) as being more aware and enlightened than the rugby leaguers, but when Ian Roberts came out in 1995 (when he was still an active player) it was met with a general reaction of acceptance and tolerance. Would the same happen in AFL?

 

[DTRAIN87]

We like to think of ourselves (AFL followers) as being more aware and enlightened than the rugby leaguers, but when Ian Roberts came out in 1995 (when he was still an active player) it was met with a general reaction of acceptance and tolerance. Would the same happen in AFL?

Well Sydneysiders where NRL is prevalent have been exposed to fairyboys most of their lives and this would help them to understand it more than most Melbourne based AFL supporters I believe.

 

[ExTasDeeMan]

We like to think of ourselves (AFL followers) as being more aware and enlightened than the rugby leaguers, but when Ian Roberts came out in 1995 (when he was still an active player) it was met with a general reaction of acceptance and tolerance. Would the same happen in AFL?

Yes. Don't have a doubt there would be a large percentage that would pretty shit about it, but everybody would be ok in the end.

Except for bigots, they would choke on their own crap.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Well Sydneysiders where NRL is prevalent have been exposed to fairyboys most of their lives and this would help them to understand it more than most Melbourne based AFL supporters I believe.

tool.

 

[Memories]

For so long us polygamists have also had to hide our shame, polygamy round in the AFL would just allow us to be who we are with no shame.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Well Sydneysiders where NRL is prevalent have been exposed to fairyboys most of their lives and this would help them to understand it more than most Melbourne based AFL supporters I believe.

and this is exactly why this kind of round is needed

 

[DTRAIN87]

and this is exactly why this kind of round is needed

I agree. However I feel that the AFL sees it as a taboo subject for one of two reasons.

1. They are not interested in associating themselves with it because they exhibit some form of resentment to it.

2. They don't want a round where the male supporter base takes the piss out of it with comments like my fairyboy one above.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

I agree. However I feel that the AFL sees it as a taboo subject for one of two reasons.

1. They are not interested in associating themselves with it because they exhibit some form of resentment to it.

2. They don't want a round where the male supporter base takes the piss out of it with comments like my fairyboy one above.

1) Don't disagree. I hope Ball gets traction with his petition. If he gets his 30k and some decent media attention, its hard to ignore the issue much longer. FFS if a country footy club can openly accept their gay mate, surely the AFL can

2) Disagree with this. They copped flake in the early days of the indigenous round, and even today you still get idiots saying "I was born here, so I'm indigenous.... where's my round?!?!?". AFL can take the hits and push through once they make their mind up on something

 

[Underdog]

1) Don't disagree. I hope Ball gets traction with his petition. If he gets his 30k and some decent media attention, its hard to ignore the issue much longer. FFS if a country footy club can openly accept their gay mate, surely the AFL can

Who's to say they aren't? The fact a player doesn't run around in the media bleating it doesn't mean that people within a club don't know.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

Who's to say they aren't? The fact a player doesn't run around in the media bleating it doesn't mean that people within a club don't know.

I'm not referring to individuals, I'm referring to the clubs and AFL. When have you seen a footballer take his partner to the AFL thats a man? Thank his boyfriend for his support during his B&F speech? Its the old thing one poster previously wanted to maintain, just keep it to yourself and out of the public. Again, why do straight players get to be living their choices openly, but gay men are expected to keep it private?

If the AFL come out and promote the acceptance of gay players at all levels of the game, it will make the path much easier for players to make the decision to come out. The decision is their's, but knowing the AFL, their club and the supporters have their back will make it easier.

 

[IvanTudorCMcHock]

Yeah but nah. I just don't get the infatuation with "recognition". Females and indigenous people have dealt with different social constraints than homosexuals, which, really, should keep their sexuality private. It's different to being a woman or indigenous.

Why should they keep their sexuality private? I guess you would prefer it if, on Brownlow night, all the players showed up alone, right? After all, showing up with a woman reveals their sexuality.

Society is slowly becoming more accepting -- or less interested -- in whether someone is gay, or who is gay. Once the baby boomers move on, the reality is that homosexuality will be more accepted, and it will be common place to have a gay person in the work place.

Newsflash, toots. It's commonplace to have a gay person in the work-place right now.

But having a "Hey, it's awesome to be gay! Come out and tell us!" round imo would be counterproductive to the issues homosexuals face imo. It should be addressed at a club level first on a private basis. It's really not important that the public knows whether or not a player is gay. Making it important is imo where a lot of the hostility comes from. People just don't give a shit about whether you're gay or not.

No, religion is where the hostility comes from. And from morons who parrot the hatred coming from religion. If nobody gave a shit about whether you're gay, gay people would be allowed to marry.

 

[CF]

Who's to say they aren't? The fact a player doesn't run around in the media bleating it doesn't mean that people within a club don't know.

I hope you are right. Given the "boys club" attitude you see in the AFL I am sceptical. The problem is there is no way to prove your assertion that all is well at AFL club level just as there is no way to prove it is a problem. We are all making guesses about it here coloured by our own opinions of gays in general.

The fact the AFL dropped it a few years ago like a hot potato speaks volumes that they have adopted a "don't ask, don't tell' approach (IMHO).

But like I have said I don't see why the AFL should have to lead us in addressing community issues in the first place. They are a sporting franchise, not a think tank. But I do like that they are willing to participate in some discussions, but they should never be seen as the trend setters or leaders on any issue other than football.

So like I said earlier I'd prefer if the AFL didn't have any rounds dedicated to community issues. Dedicate them to Football. But they can still participate in community discussion and present positive role models for young people.

 

[pan_]

I just don't care. And I think it's stupid

I just don't care. And I think it's stupid

I just don't care. And I think it's stupid

 

[Underdog]

I hope you are right. Given the "boys club" attitude you see in the AFL I am sceptical.

In the days of every second player being a metro-sexual hipster with a dodgy haircut, ripped body and fashion label or restaurant playing in a watered down physical game as opposed to hardened, gut carrying and VB swilling players of yesteryear - I'd suggest the blokely, boys club stereotype at football clubs is long gone.

 

[BiggieSmallz]

we also need Muslim Round

 

[CF]

In the days of every second player being a metro-sexual hipster with a dodgy haircut, ripped body and fashion label or restaurant playing in a watered down physical game as opposed to hardened, gut carrying and VB swilling players of yesteryear - I'd suggest the blokely, boys club stereotype at football clubs is long gone.

Yeah but the people administrating the game aren't 19yo metrosexuals who sip latte's and tweet all over the place, mostly they are 40-60 yo gen xer's/baby boomers who come from a beer swilling blokey era. These are the men who set the agendas.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

In the days of every second player being a metro-sexual hipster with a dodgy haircut, ripped body and fashion label or restaurant playing in a watered down physical game as opposed to hardened, gut carrying and VB swilling players of yesteryear - I'd suggest the blokely, boys club stereotype at football clubs is long gone.

Then why feel you have to keep it all private and hidden away if they are all so accepting?