Geelong haven't sacked a head coach since 1988

[PetterdHoisted]

To be fair, though, Cats are one of only 4 teams to win 4 premierships since 1990. And you have to be in it to win it!

yep, I think the only exception to that rule is if you get positively belted in a GF.

I reckon the pressure on Longmire after Sydney's dual GF collapses was way more than Chris Scott faced after a decade of respectable losses in finals. I know Longmire says it wasn't relevant, but I'm pretty sure he is gone because of that.

Geelong may let HT leads slip in finals a fair bit, but I can't think of a big final where they 'didn't show up' on the day.

 

[Mofra]

David Koch is on record saying he wants Ken Hinkley to be a 20 year coach at Port.
So no, he's not getting sacked any time soon.

Just cut out the middle man and appoint Ken as Essendon coach.

 

[rapidfire7]

Incredibly successful H&A, but have probably taken over from Collingwood as the byword for finals heartbreak since 1990.

Sydney giving it a run in the last decade + though

Totally agree about the 90s. Was as heart breaking as it can get. Don't think I will ever fully get over some of those losses. All we wanted was 1 flag. Just 1.. But, for some reason, the stars just never fully aligned when they most needed to.

Whilst we have no doubt had quite a number of painful losses post 2000, this period pales in comparison to the 90s in the overall heart breaking stakes, as we have also had a lot of success including a 4-2 record in Grand Finals.

Therefore, I'm not sure it's quite right to lump these 2 periods together and say that Geelong is the byword for finals heartbreak since 1990, when there has been a significant improvement in the club's finals fortunes this century and they have won the equal most number of Premierships etc.

So yeah, 1990s, you have a point for sure. But, post 2000 (a far longer and more recent period) I would say that a couple.of other teams are ahead of Geelong at being the byword for finals heartbreak.

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

Not too similar to Collingwood, they've only had 4 coaches since Leigh Matthews who started in the mid 80s.

You could argue that Tony Shaw was probably the only coach who was outright given the arse, but the lesson here is that if you pick and stick with the coach and have a good football department you will win more games than you lose. These two clubs get it.

Mick Malthouse was forced out against his own will as well. The whole succession plan thing and all that.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Totally agree about the 90s. Was as heart breaking as it can get. Don't think I will ever fully get over some of those losses. All we wanted was 1 flag. Just 1.. But, for some reason, the stars just never fully aligned when they most needed to.

Whilst we have no doubt had quite a number of painful losses post 2000, this period pales in comparison to the 90s in the overall heart breaking stakes, as we have also had a lot of success including a 4-2 record in Grand Finals.

Therefore, I'm not sure it's quite right to lump these 2 periods together and say that Geelong is the byword for finals heartbreak since 1990, when there has been a significant improvement in the club's finals fortunes this century and they have won the equal most number of Premierships etc.

So yeah, 1990s, you have a point for sure. But, post 2000 (a far longer and more recent period) I would say that a couple.of other teams are ahead of Geelong at being the byword for finals heartbreak.

Sydney - the Buddy curse!

 

[I Remember Bluey]

Geelong haven't sacked a head coach since 1988​

Why would you

 

[Blues177]

To put this in perspective, Carlton have had 10 senior coaches over the last 35 years. Out of those only Jesaulenko and Parkin resigned and left the club on their own terms.

Ian Collins: “We want you to resign”.

Robert Walls: “I’m not going to resign. If you had any balls you would sack me”.

Ian Collins: “You are sacked”.

 

[Pistol Night]

Just cut out the middle man and appoint Ken as Essendon coach.

Imagine the Port board if they won a flag with Ken at the Dons

 

[Taper]

Ayres and Terry Wallace at richmond jumped before he was pushed. You can't really say thats the same as Dimma or Bomber Thompson.

Ayres at Adelaide jumped before he was pushed as he was told his contract wouldn't be renewed after the 2004 season.
Ayres at Geelong was different as he was contracted to coach us for the 2000 season, but as we know he chose to depart after 1999 and take the senior coaching job at Adelaide.

 

[demondavey]

Geelong mostly been successful tho so that helps. Even when not winning flags they will making grand finals.

Helps they play games at the shit box down in Geelong. No offence....

‘No offence’ but I will be offensive anyway

 

[demondavey]

OK so Geelong FC have been sacked by 100% of their former coaches since 1988? Must be an even worse place than I thought.

Norlane….. the place to be

 

[TheEscapeClub]

I heard this yesterday and thought it couldn't possibly be true given how often clubs sack coaches. I looked it up and saw we've only had four coaches since we sacked John Devine in 1988.

Malcolm Blight, Gary Ayres and Mark Thompson all resigned as coach. None of them were sacked and given how successful Chris Scott's coaching tenure has been, there is zero chance of him being sacked as once his time at Geelong is done, he'll leave the club on his own terms.

To put this in perspective, Carlton have had 10 senior coaches over the last 35 years. Out of those only Jesaulenko and Parkin resigned and left the club on their own terms.

Walls, Brittain, Pagan, Ratten, Malthouse, Bolton and Teague were all sacked by Carlton, with Carlton having sacked their last six consecutive coaches. If Voss gets sacked it'll mean Carlton have sacked their last seven coaches in a row.

Another example of a club known to sack their coach is Richmond who have had eight senior coaches in the last 35 years. Soon to be nine now that Hardwick has resigned.

Bartlett, Jeans, Northey, Walls and Gieschen were all sacked by Richmond in the space of a decade, but Richmond haven't sacked their coach since 1999 which is testament to how much more stable and well run their club is now compared to back then. Frawley, Wallace and Hardwick all resigned and left on their own terms.

Port Adelaide have only had four coaches since entering the AFL and are another example of a stable/well run club. Mark Williams is the only coach they've sacked given both Cahill and Primus resigned on their own terms, and it's hard to see Ken Hinkley being sacked given he has a good record having never coached Port a minimum of 10 wins every year during his tenure.

With Geelong having not sacked a head coach since 1988, Richmond since 1999 and Port Adelaide since 2010, it's amazing to think Carlton have sacked four coaches since any of these clubs last sacked their coach. I believe St Kilda have sacked three coaches since 2010.

..and Devine only got the job because the person they really wanted, wasn't interested because of Ablett Snr.

 

[My Tilly]

..and Devine only got the job because the person they really wanted, wasn't interested because of Ablett Snr.

Who was that?

 

[Irish BlueBagger]

‘No offence’ but I will be offensive anyway

If someone begins a sentence with no offence/i don't mean to offend you, it pretty much to all intents and purposes means that what i'm about to say will be somewhat offensive, but i'm still saying it regardless.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

Who was that?

Gordon 'Woofa' Hynes. North Shore legend.

 

[AlwaysHawks15]

yep, I think the only exception to that rule is if you get positively belted in a GF.

I reckon the pressure on Longmire after Sydney's dual GF collapses was way more than Chris Scott faced after a decade of respectable losses in finals. I know Longmire says it wasn't relevant, but I'm pretty sure he is gone because of that.

Geelong may let HT leads slip in finals a fair bit, but I can't think of a big final where they 'didn't show up' on the day.

94 and 95 GF's. Or are we talking the Chris Scott era?.

 

[My Tilly]

Gordon 'Woofa' Hynes. North Shore legend.

Do you know what the beef was between he and Ablett?

 

[Gordon Farkas]

Ayres at Adelaide jumped before he was pushed as he was told his contract wouldn't be renewed after the 2004 season.
Ayres at Geelong was different as he was contracted to coach us for the 2000 season, but as we know he chose to depart after 1999 and take the senior coaching job at Adelaide.

Ayres was contracted until the end of 2000. At the end of season 1999 he asked for an extension on the contract (hard to know why given the season the team just had).
The Costa-Cook regime had just come in and their policy was No Extensions for anyone.
Ayres also got approached by (or approached) Adelaide and was upfront about it with Costa-Cook. They said he was free to go if he wanted to, so he did.
In essence, the coach wanted to be somewhere else and had a year left of his contract. So you can technically say that coach sacked club.

 

[Mr Meow]

94 and 95 GF's. Or are we talking the Chris Scott era?.

There's plenty in the Scott era anyway. It reads more like a Richmond supporter who only watched Geelong's finals against Richmond. Because otherwise, there's more examples of not showing up to play in finals than there are examples of throwing away half time leads.

Of course there's been strong finals too.

 

[Gordon Farkas]

Do you know what the beef was between he and Ablett?

Hynes was a member of the 1963 premiership team but chose to finish his playing days at the Cats at a relatively young age.

When he was interviewed for the senior coach’s job prior to the 1986 season one of the questions he was asked was how he would respond if GAS didn’t turn up to training (which was not a hypothetical question).

His response was that he’d drop him from the team, just like anyone else. It wasn’t the answer that the questioners wanted to hear.