Preview Geelong V Brisbane Prelim Final Sat Oct 17 7 40 pm @ Gabba

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If Brisbane beat us this week I'll be willing them on too because it means the season has an * if they win the flag after playing every game at home.

No matter how much the AFL and the complicit media parties seek to try to remove it, there is an enormous asterisk against the flag if either the Lions or the Power win it.

Basically the whole season literally 'at home', while other teams have flown hither and yon and slept in hotel beds for months at a time.

Won't matter in the final analysis, I know. In fifty years from now, it won't register with anyone too much that this was the 'COVID campaign'.

But the greater the denials that come from the two clubs about the supposed level playing field we're all battling on, the more clear it becomes that they have (just by circumstance) been dealt an enormous hand up over the course of 2020.

Doesn't change the fact that both the Tigers and us are more than capable of overcoming the obstacles involved in knocking them off in the next two days, though. Will objectively be less of an asterisk on the year if one of the teams who had to hub for several months get it done next Saturday.
 
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This is absolutely true, I'm just arguing that it does go some way to redressing the inequities which have been managed by non-Vic teams since 1982.
Not at all. Interstate clubs have an advantage Victorian teams don't. They get 'true' home finals. A decent interstate club can take real advantage there.

The Northern clubs also get their own access to players via academies which is well and truly ahead of any Victorian teams as far as that system goes.

Anyway, we'll just agree to disagree and cease ruining discussion on what should be and really good game.

I think this discussion will be moot anyway because I think we'll get the chocolates.
 

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If Richmond lose tonight. We will win next week against port on a neutral ground.

Makes it even more important at to get up tomorrow night. I don’t think we’d beat Richmond.
We'd beat either of those teams in the grand final imo, and I'm itching to face Richmond again.
 
We'd beat either of those teams in the grand final imo, and I'm itching to face Richmond again.

I thought I would never enjoy being at a footy game more than when I watched us crush the Pies on GF Day 2011.

But if I'm there to witness us knocking off the most insufferable team of recent history next Saturday, that might just surpass it.
 
hahaha yes as the team who came 8th - and even then, only because we overturned a seven-goal defecit at 3Qt AGAINST THE DEMONS, we were roundly expected to humiliate them. Of course we were. Because that's what happens when teams finish 8th on percentage. They're expected to humiliate their opponents.

It's why the Pies win over the Eagles wasn't celebrated at all. Because it was expected.

And what's more this was reflected by our narrow quote of $2.05 and Melbourne's outsider odds of $1.79

F*** me it seriously cannot be that hard to use the internet!


Seriously though yes we were given a puncher's chance FOR that reason, we had a lot of finals experience and Melbourne had none. It is only one factor though and while I didn't expect to lose as badly as we did, we were an inferior side to Melbourne that year clearly

Why so angry? And you proved my point exactly. Finals experience doesn’t mean jack.

Go back and read the game day thread from the game. Most people expected us to win cause the dees had next to no finals experience. It can’t be that hard:rolleyes:
 
Why so angry? And you proved my point exactly. Finals experience doesn’t mean jack.

Go back and read the game day thread from the game. Most people expected us to win cause the dees had next to no finals experience. It can’t be that hard:rolleyes:

Just because a few people on a forum think something doesn't make it fact.

Why would I trawl through pages of thread to see who the favourites were when I can just type in "2018 elimination final odds" and get the answer.

Finals experience means a bit when the two sides are closely matched. I wouldn't say it counts for much when one team is clearly a lot better than the other.
 
I thought I would never enjoy being at a footy game more than when I watched us crush the Pies on GF Day 2011.

But if I'm there to witness us knocking off the most insufferable team of recent history next Saturday, that might just surpass it.
I'm kicking myself in reality. I chose the worst possible time to move back to Victoria. If I'd have waited I'd be there tomorrow night with my brother, and possibly at a Grand Final. In fact I'd have got to witness a fair few games live too.
 
I must say I totally disagree with this. The success of every set up away from the contest is dictated entirely by how you perform at the contest. If you don't perform at the contest it becomes almost irrelevant how you structure behind the ball. Everything starts at the contest

It doesn’t dictate the success of the setup off the ball it dictates what you do next off the ball. The setups are determined based off what happens at the contest whether you win or lose it.

not sure exactly what your trying to say, are you trying to say I implied coaches don’t put effort into stoppage and clearance work also?? Obviously very important
 

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I'm kicking myself in reality. I chose the worst possible time to move back to Victoria. If I'd have waited I'd be there tomorrow night with my brother, and possibly at a Grand Final. In fact I'd have got to witness a fair few games live too.

It's all so unprecedented, isn't it? I always thought that taking my young son to a really big finals game would absolutely have to involve a massive cost, flights to Victoria, and an epic footy trip. Not that it isn't a great adventure, but it's tough to afford it and shattering if you come up empty.

As it is, he'll get to travel a whole 30 minutes from our front door, see his heroes play off to be in the big dance, and have the prospect of fronting up to his first GF next weekend if the boys happen to get up tomorrow night.

So, win or lose, I am determined that he understands the gravity of what's going on here. If he stays living in Queensland, he will never get an easier opportunity to see his club play in the last two weeks of a season than we are about to experience now.

Having told him the stories of 'being there' in 2011, the last few years of mostly ignominious finals exits have been torturous for him. Every year, I watch him set his hopes so high, only to see them vanish without a trace far too often. I think he truly senses (like I do) that this is a moment like no other for Cats fans living in exile here.

So, Catters, about tomorrow night, please don't disappoint my boy...
 
Why so angry? And you proved my point exactly. Finals experience doesn’t mean jack.

Go back and read the game day thread from the game. Most people expected us to win cause the dees had next to no finals experience. It can’t be that hard:rolleyes:
I have to admit, my memory of that game is that we just fell in to the finals and the Dees started favourites.
 
4:30 pm raining here in dismal Adelaide..
Could favour port who have slogged out a few wins in the wet here this year..
I feel like the rain suits Richmond's gameplan. However does make it more difficult for Lynch, who Port have to be worried about.
 
I feel like the rain suits Richmond's gameplan. However does make it more difficult for Lynch, who Port have to be worried about.

Only if they turn their back on him...
 
If Brisbane beat us this week I'll be willing them on too because it means the season has an * if they win the flag after playing every game at home.
They played Cats in Sydney
 
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