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Hahahahah Prestia and Hannebery explain themselves now
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I’d imagine rather than it being the long drawn out injuries it would be the short one week injuries where the player pulls out of a game late then is all good to go the next week.
It doesn’t take long to get out of the system.
DogDaySonny
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Hmmm... is the AFL knowingly and now openly facilitating criminal behaviour? I wonder if there's a criminal liability for the AFL in that?
Still, the AFL enabling usage and possible addiction is interesting. Was Cousins enabled on meth? Was Joel Smith's usage managed and he became a trafficker as the opportunity presented itself with the AFL's complicit enablement? What about coaches? Was Bomber Thompson an AFL-enabled meth addict and pusher?
I guess we have the cynical "mental health" break confirmed. Mental health time-outs are confirmed as a positive test and the AFL is managing WADA access to violating athletes. Certainly not in the spirit of drug-free competition pledges the AFL has agreed to, if in the letter. Russia's entire Olympic program was banned from competition for four years, all athletes whether positive or not, because of a state-sponsored doping regime designed to enable banned substances usage while avoiding WADA detection. Is this different? I wonder if this will be an incredible can of worms for the AFL and our beloved sporting clubs.
Jet_black
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The Melbourne shenanigans is nothing new. Wilkie has chosen to shine a light on this issue as the double standards by head office has been staggering since 2005 when the current drug policy was instituted.
God knows there have been several “stars” who could have been struck out but kept playing because head office deemed them crucial to the game.
Scrutiny will be on every player who is “out” or “unavailable”.
God knows there have been several “stars” who could have been struck out but kept playing because head office deemed them crucial to the game.
Scrutiny will be on every player who is “out” or “unavailable”.
DogDaySonny
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Every single player with an extended and persistent injury is a drug user now, a potential addict. Young guys. Our guys. It doesn't matter. Will Day's foot? Real or pretend?
The AFL management is pure poison. The whole AFL commission system really needs a reformation.
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It took the bridge tragedy in the US off the front page of the Hun. Dees cheating alleged again
Jet_black
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DogDaySonny
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We know where the Hun’s priorities are.
Australia? Melbourne? I mean there are a lot of things to criticise that paper over but focusing on the biggest news in our own city over a shipping disaster 14000km away isn't one of them.
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It really isn’t a fair situation for players that had legit continuous hammy injuries. Question marks?
Jet_black
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Real injuries are not the issue - when the guy shows up on crutches or in a moon boot.
It is the 1 to 3 week “niggles” that warrant scrutiny because that is how long the drugs stay in the body.
DogDaySonny
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Yes, crutches make the injury argument stronger. No one will question them.
And 1 to 3 weeks assuming they can quit... Addiction ain't just a word in the dictionary.
Nearly every single persistent, non-hospitalised injury will bring a player into doubt. It will start slow as a joke, but it will build. We'll eventually question ever other team's players, regardless of injury. They'll question ours. The newspapers will question everyone and then suddenly not one player in particular, a sure tell.
We'll see if this develops into something bigger or not. WADA stepped in to manage the Essendon situation when the AFL and ASADA tried to manage it to a nice quiet spot under the rug on their own. I wonder if similar will happen with this.
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Rat cunning comes with a drug culture.
Best one is Gary Lyon saying on air he can’t understand why there a drug culture these days. Orly Gary?
Best one is Gary Lyon saying on air he can’t understand why there a drug culture these days. Orly Gary?
vaughnie
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I sometimes wonder whether I am more cynical now just because I'm old. But I suspect the years of witnessing self interest and double standards from our leaders in sport, business, politics, religion etc, means I just don't trust them any more.
The AFL has no commitment to WADA. Their signing up with WADA is all about optics and government funding. They then do everyting in their power to get around the system. Just like Vlad giving a heads up to the scum, this is about the AFL protecting their brand.
I don't for a minute think they are interested in the player's welfare.
This will end up being swept under the rug again and the AFL executives will pat themselves on the back and give themselves a nice bonus.
The AFL has no commitment to WADA. Their signing up with WADA is all about optics and government funding. They then do everyting in their power to get around the system. Just like Vlad giving a heads up to the scum, this is about the AFL protecting their brand.
I don't for a minute think they are interested in the player's welfare.
This will end up being swept under the rug again and the AFL executives will pat themselves on the back and give themselves a nice bonus.
This comment by the Melbourne Doc has put the AFL into disrepute. Just as bad as us making the racism issues public.
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Could be both. Takes a while to get it out of the system if you keep taking it.
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You're right. It's always about money.
AFL executives compensation is ultimately tied to how much revenue the game generates. The game generates revenue based on broadcast deals and stadium tickets/memberships.
People are more likely to spend their money on watching the game when the quality of games is higher. The quality of games are higher when the best players are playing.
Players caught with illicit drugs in their system by a drug authority won't be able to play for a long time.
At this point the AFL has two options.
1) Zero tolerance on illicit drugs = Less quality players = Less quality games = Less money
2) Work around the system = Keep quality players = Maintain quality games = More money
They'll always pick the option that gives them more money. But maybe I'm just an old cynic now too.
Melbourne "injury" list.
| Jake Bowey | "Collarbone" | 7 weeks |
| Lachie Hunter | "Calf" | 1 week |
| Jake Lever | "Knee" | Test |
| Steven May | "Ribs" | 1 week |
| Shane McAdam | "Hamstring" | 3-5 weeks |
| Jake Melksham | "Knee" | 12-14 weeks |
| Joel Smith | Suspension | Indefinite |
| Ollie Sestan | "Concussion" | Test |
| Charlie Spargo | "Achilles" | 2-4 weeks |
| Daniel Turner | "Hip" | 2-3 weeks |
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Lawsy
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How much Federal funding has the Govt committed to the Tassie Stadium? And is this at risk if the AFL is circumventing the WADA guidelines which is conditional on the AFL being a signatory?
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Maybe May is just being proactive rather than reactive.......
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The AFL has just admitted it empowers club doctors to remove players from matches if they are at risk of testing positive for illicit drugs on match day, after Melbourne were accused of conducting off-the-books drug tests on their players.
This just in AFL has doubled down on criminal behaviour and don’t give two shits
