In that case, 3x a week should be enough if you can get away with nothing. I do like it and since my resistance exercises have me resting 1-2 minutes between sets, some hard conditioning on the side wouldn't hurt me.
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In that case, 3x a week should be enough if you can get away with nothing. I do like it and since my resistance exercises have me resting 1-2 minutes between sets, some hard conditioning on the side wouldn't hurt me.
Unless you are overweight or really unco surely he's overrating how difficult running is a tad..
If anything, I was under the impression 3x a week isn't enough cardio, even if it's HIIT training, but if it's enough to help me get ripped if combined with a good resistance training program and diet then it's done its job for me. A little stamina can't hurt.
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Great to hear you're back on the horse, so to speak
Gotta start somewhere 
your base will go up reasonably fast with newbie gains, especially if you've had a higher base in the past.
The difference in burning calories between HIIT and long slow steady state exercise is a bit of a misnomer.
The marketing guys say do HIIT because that's their business model and you "keep burning calories after training" - in reality the EPOC (Excess post exercise oxygen consumption) is only 6-15% extra calories in the ensuing 24 hours post workout.
So if you did 20mins of HIIT and burn 300 cals - you're looking at best at 350 total cals burnt from the wonderful HIIT style.
If I'm plodding along on the assault bike at 140bpm - 350 cals is about 45 mins.
One took a lot of mental effort and left me cooked after, the other I needed to watch netflix so I didn't get bored with how easy it is and feel great after.
HIIT is not some amazing thing, it just has a good marketing team.
Also, 99.9% of people I've every seen doing HIIT are just doing IT. There is nothing high intensity about it - it's just exercise with rests.
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HIIT is the new fad. People that do circuit training and work at 2-1 or better work to rest ratio are laughing their ass off at people paying massive coin to do those classes.
I do a bit of it now purely cause it is a great time saver (5-6 rounds of a circuit with a time cap means im doing my workout in 30-35 minutes) but depending what your trying to achieve HIIT isnt any better or worse than anything else.
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Thanks for the info BrockBlitz. Honestly, I’d prefer to burn 1000 calories over about 35 minutes like I used to. 3x of that + 3x full body resistance training should be enough to yield decent strength/fitness/health.
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Simple question is, would you rather jump around like an idiot and wreck yourself for 30mins... Or just consume 300 less calories..
HIIT training is a wank, like you said, marketed by lazy PT's
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If your aim is to burn 1000 calories in a 35 min session, then thats going to wear thin pretty quickly and you'll burnout... Or your gonna hurt yourself
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I've done it before but I've had to put a fair bit of intensity into it to get there, usually takes me 38-40 minutes. But yes, I see your point, I've gone hard lately on the resistance and cardio and needed a break.
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Yes, over a period, you can burn 1000 calories in the workout... but then you need to rest a day or 2... so you workout less or not at all so you can recover, or you burn yourself out completely, Which then can lead to losing motivation and having more extended breaks and putting the weight back on.
Lift weights, eat less calories and hit a daily step count.
It's Much more enjoyable, sustainable and better off on your body.
Like I mentioned before. Whats easier...
Do 2 x 1000 calories HIIT sessions a week or
Doing my example above and Consume 2000 less calories a week (285 less per day)
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I find the older I get the harder running becomes in comparison to other movements. I die a little inside when I rock up to CrossFit and running is part of the workout.
Bloody hell, Warnie dead of a heart attack too...
I'm surprised at well I've handled running after like a 15 year break after finishing playing footy and even started enjoying despite getting older. I limit it to only around 2kms though and I'm a smaller build lean type.
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It's high-exertion training, not high-intensity training. In order for it to be high-intensity, it needs a decent recovery interval so high-intensity can be reached on subsequent work intervals!!!!
Main thing of course is to just keep going and plugging away, without a doubt the results will come.
