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Club Ins and Out for 2023

Lauderdale

New Coach: Allen Christensen

Ins:

Phillip Bellchambers (North Shore)
Jason Gridley (Hobart)
Outs:
Lennon Marlin (Mainland)
Oscar Shaw (Overseas)
Will Poland (Sorell)
Bodhi Kingston (Sorell)
Sam Tilley (Woodville- West Torrens)
Harry Richmond

Kingborough

Ins:

Nic Baker (Sorell)
James Zeitzen (Cygnet)
Ryan Clark (Cygnet)
Reece Scotland (Cygnet)

Outs:

Brady Rees (QAFL)
Jordan Lane (Port Melbourne)
Zach Adams (Port Melbourne)
Luke Graham ( University)
Jackson Keogh ( Huonville)
Sam Duigan (Overseas)
Riley Ashlin (Overseas)


North Hobart

New Coach: Adam Bester

Ins:
Spencer White (Vic)
Outs:

Will Splann (Central Districts)
Callum Kilpatrick (West Preston)
George McLeod (Sturt)
Lachie Dale ( Victoria)
Logan Elphingstone (Burnie)
Sam Caswell (QLD)
Callum Kilpatrick (Victoria)

Clarence

Ins:

Noah Holmes (DOSA)
Mitch Anderton (Sorell)

Outs:

Colin Garland (Retired)

Keren Howlett (Claremont)
Dylan Howlett (Claremont)
Jonte Doran ( University)
Jaques Barwick (Perth)
Lachie Borsboom ( Overseas)

Glenorchy

Ins:


Outs:
Tom Cleary (University)
Ben Kamaric (Brighton)
Adam Roberts (DOSA)
John Geard ( St Virgils)
Riley Oakley (St Virgils)

Launceston

Ins:

Outs:

Jay Blackberry (South Launceston)

Brendan Taylor (South Launceston)

Jake Smith (Rocherlea)

Michael Musicka ( Bracknell)

Cooper Warren ( Bracknell)

Josh Woolley ( Bracknell)

Miller Hodge ( Bracknell)

Jameson House ( Wynyard)

Jonty Mcivor ( Wynyard)

Fletcher Seymour ( Old Scotch)

Josiah Burling ( Perth)

Jett Maloney ( Longford)

Alex Wright (Norwood)

Jack Tuthill

North Launceston

Ins:

Outs:

Michael Stingel (Norwood)
Tom Bennett
Corey Nankervis

* will only add confirmed as there are obviously heaps of rumours out there.

* post here and I’ll add on
 
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madmug said:
NL had a good young ressies team so one would thing some of them will step up.

Looking at the 'muckery' today, it seems Western Storm are in lots of trouble. They had no depth this season & are losing most of their senior team. How does AFLwade protect their own team? As if it wasn't bad enough that they've forced them to change from their original, distinctive jumper. They now have to wear the poo & wee hand me downs. Its probably just an old premiership set anyway:rolleyes:

It must be getting hard to stump up for both WS & Devonport, as well as now help out the GMs old club to pay for their growing playing bill at Boot park:rolleyes:

Meanwhile other clubs slug it out working by themselves, just to make ends meet. Its just crook really.
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"The club was prepared to take one step back to take two steps forward." Braden McGee Storm general manager... gee that is going to be hard they came dead motherless last with two wins this year, one step back no wins for the season?
 
GreyBudgie said:
"The club was prepared to take one step back to take two steps forward." Braden McGee Storm general manager... gee that is going to be hard they came dead motherless last with two wins this year, one step back no wins for the season?
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It just makes you wonder WHY aflWade tried so hard to destroy South Launy. Surely they couldnt have been as big a financial basket case as Devonport. WHY didn't they just try & help them through the financial problem instead of doing an attempted hatched job on the club, like with Hobart FC?. SURELY a properly constituted club with a clubhouse, a ground, supporters etc would be a better bet than a made up club based on a 2nd division NTFA club with no real ground & no real clubrooms & players who have had a change of identity 3 times in 4 years? Who are they kidding? How does that work for Logic?. I just don't get it.

I do think they really needed to downsize to an 8 club competition. 2NWC, 2North & 4 around Hobart. Much more efficient. But that would make too much sense. So the stupidity continues.
 
It seems the popular view among a few people that have been discussing the future of the league and that at the SFL, and OSFA Grand Finals appears that they would prefer to see the State League scrapped and go back to the premier league and regional league concept. But I like the idea of downsizing the league a bit though, might be a better option.
 

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The Majestic said:
It seems the popular view among a few people that have been discussing the future of the league and that at the SFL, and OSFA Grand Finals appears that they would prefer to see the State League scrapped and go back to the premier league and regional league concept. But I like the idea of downsizing the league a bit though, might be a better option.
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I think some of us would say some 'down sizing' in the AFLTas administration would be the first thing to do to improve things.:rolleyes:
 
madmug said:
I think some of us would say some 'down sizing' in the AFLTas administration would be the first thing to do to improve things.:rolleyes:
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Certainly would, that would be the main way to fix these problems, but doesn't seem likely.
 
madmug said:
It just makes you wonder WHY aflWade tried so hard to destroy South Launy. Surely they couldnt have been as big a financial basket case as Devonport. WHY didn't they just try & help them through the financial problem instead of doing an attempted hatched job on the club, like with Hobart FC?. SURELY a properly constituted club with a clubhouse, a ground, supporters etc would be a better bet than a made up club based on a 2nd division NTFA club with no real ground & no real clubrooms & players who have had a change of identity 3 times in 4 years? Who are they kidding? How does that work for Logic?. I just don't get it.

I do think they really needed to downsize to an 8 club competition. 2NWC, 2North & 4 around Hobart. Much more efficient. But that would make too much sense. So the stupidity continues.
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I agree that an 8 team competition would be better. Its very easy to see which team to drop out in the North but not so easy in the South. I dont think it would be a good thing for Clarence to have the whole Eastern shore to themselves so who would be the team to go. That leaves Glenorchy, Hobart City and Kingborough and I cant see it would be fair for any of those 3 to miss out.
 
Hawkboy said:
I agree that an 8 team competition would be better. Its very easy to see which team to drop out in the North but not so easy in the South. I dont think it would be a good thing for Clarence to have the whole Eastern shore to themselves so who would be the team to go. That leaves Glenorchy, Hobart City and Kingborough and I cant see it would be fair for any of those 3 to miss out.
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With 4 in the south, Kingston/Huon 50k. NHCFC & Moonah 50k. Glenorchy& Derwent Valley&Brighton 60k, Clarence East&SothEast 65k. I think thats a fairly good spread for 4 clubs. Overall 10 is too many IMO.
 
madmug said:
With 4 in the south, Kingston/Huon 50k. NHCFC & Moonah 50k. Glenorchy& Derwent Valley&Brighton 60k, Clarence East&SothEast 65k. I think thats a fairly good spread for 4 clubs. Overall 10 is too many IMO.
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Agree 10000% this should of been the model back in SWL version 1.0 hell I remember Paul Sproule in the TANFL days early 80's being interviwed by Peter Sharp on the Sunday Morning sports show TV6 saying that is what it should be a 8 team league to keep it an elite competition. Since then, we have allways had at least two too many teams IMO, and there has always each year been one basket case whipping boy each year of both version 1 & 2. Also same money spread over eight clubs would also help the clubs. With those who miss out to return to regional comps.
 
GreyBudgie said:
Agree 10000% this should of been the model back in SWL version 1.0 hell I remember Paul Sproule in the TANFL days early 80's being interviwed by Peter Sharp on the Sunday Morning sports show TV6 saying that is what it should be a 8 team league to keep it an elite competition. Since then, we have allways had at least two too many teams IMO, and there has always each year been one basket case whipping boy each year of both version 1 & 2. Also same money spread over eight clubs would also help the clubs. With those who miss out to return to regional comps.
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Alot of talk about what should be done. What about what's happening?

Whose gone where? Who are the big improvers?
Surely launceston and devonport will be a lot better last year.

Glenorchy should be up there again!
 
TassieFooty said:
Alot of talk about what should be done. What about what's happening?

Whose gone where? Who are the big improvers?
Surely launceston and devonport will be a lot better last year.

Glenorchy should be up there again!
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We dont really know that much. I mean how much are AFLTas bankrolling which clubs? Thus how much will they spend on recruiting? Clearly Clarence get a green light, as do Burnie. South Storm Prospect Hawks rely on handouts as do Devonport. I dont think the rest get much of a look in so will have to do it on their own. So I see Clarence & Devonport as improving. I dont see how SSPH can improve seeing as their reserves were crap & they've lost 12-15 senior players. It'll cost a fortune to get them up for 2016. I hear Kingston have been sniffing about for players as well.
 
TassieFooty said:
Alot of talk about what should be done. What about what's happening?

Whose gone where? Who are the big improvers?
Surely launceston and devonport will be a lot better last year.

Glenorchy should be up there again!
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Burnie have signed Zane Murphy for the next 2 years, Zac Smith (NWFL Baldock medallist) and Kallum Kubicki from Wynyard. It seems like Laycock has retired but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he plays in some games with the Dockers next year.
 

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Article in today's mercury about Clarence wanting a salary cap exemption for Ian Callinun.

Seriously is it April's fools day. Message to Afl tas, you are already on the nose with most football supporters in Tasmania, you should be trying to regain support for the competition that you run, yet... Your buddies on eastern shore missed the finals for the 1st time in over 20 years and you thinking of giving them salary cap consessions??

If you want this competition to grow and become respected then show some leadership and do the right thing for all clubs and just not your friends on the eastern shore.
 
Whowants2know said:
Article in today's mercury about Clarence wanting a salary cap exemption for Ian Callinun.

Seriously is it April's fools day. Message to Afl tas, you are already on the nose with most football supporters in Tasmania, you should be trying to regain support for the competition that you run, yet... Your buddies on eastern shore missed the finals for the 1st time in over 20 years and you thinking of giving them salary cap consessions??

If you want this competition to grow and become respected then show some leadership and do the right thing for all clubs and just not your friends on the eastern shore.
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I would say already ticked off already but better wait two weeks to make it look like due diligence is being done, the rest of the article is about yet another senior player heading out of the Prospect Hawks in Thane Bardenhagen and old China saying
"Young compared the Hawks with the Tigers, who entered the competition last year, failing to win a game and averaging 100-plus point losses, before winning four games this year.

“We can only look at them like the Tigers – they are going to have to play young kids and rebuild,” Young said."

Can the Comp carry another side going a year getting beaten by over a 100 points a week, only two years affter what happened at Kingston. Really what AFL Tasmania should be doing is pushing great players like Ian Callinun to the Hawks and Tigers and giving them exemptions as they are basically kids imagine the boost they would get playing with Ian Callinun at Kingston.
 
GreyBudgie said:
I would say already ticked off already but better wait two weeks to make it look like due diligence is being done, the rest of the article is about yet another senior player heading out of the Prospect Hawks in Thane Bardenhagen and old China saying
"Young compared the Hawks with the Tigers, who entered the competition last year, failing to win a game and averaging 100-plus point losses, before winning four games this year.

“We can only look at them like the Tigers – they are going to have to play young kids and rebuild,” Young said."

Can the Comp carry another side going a year getting beaten by over a 100 points a week, only two years affter what happened at Kingston. Really what AFL Tasmania should be doing is pushing great players like Ian Callinun to the Hawks and Tigers and giving them exemptions as they are basically kids imagine the boost they would get playing with Ian Callinun at Kingston.
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Prospect Hawks have lost yet another top player with Jobi Harper signing with Burnie. Next year is shaping as a disaster of unimaginable proportions for the Hawks. I agree with you that it is a certainty that Clarence will be given a salary cap "exemption" for Callinan, I would like to be as certain of winning Lotto. Exemption is the wrong word actually the truth is they will be giving their favourite club a larger salary cap than the other 9 clubs and expect all of us mugs to accept that is fair. I am sure there will be a backlash from the other clubs and the football public in general but why would AFL Tas lose any sleep over that. Treating clubs fairly has never been a priority for them.
 
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Glenorchy would probably be in the same boat regarding exemptions. don't a northen club have the same situation with their fly in player in tarrent. I agree and cant see why the likes of wingnut and co are not going to some club like tigers etc. but duggan, halton, degroot,jones etc should be made play in their real zone not at clubs where its easy money. wouldn't that be something to watch if afl tas found some integrity and made it happen. afl tas need an actual plan to structure the comp where clubs are not going to be put under financial stress from the start. how can clubs exist with the falling gate takings, and the travelling costs that escalate every year under the current form. patrons vote with their feet don't they realise that. Hmmm Tasmanian football is in crisis already this year, regarding next year........
 
sherrin50 said:
Glenorchy would probably be in the same boat regarding exemptions. don't a northen club have the same situation with their fly in player in tarrent. I agree and cant see why the likes of wingnut and co are not going to some club like tigers etc. but duggan, halton, degroot,jones etc should be made play in their real zone not at clubs where its easy money. wouldn't that be something to watch if afl tas found some integrity and made it happen. afl tas need an actual plan to structure the comp where clubs are not going to be put under financial stress from the start. how can clubs exist with the falling gate takings, and the travelling costs that escalate every year under the current form. patrons vote with their feet don't they realise that. Hmmm Tasmanian football is in crisis already this year, regarding next year........
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Wade already said they dont care about crowds, & that the TSL is 'their' league. So Clarence will go about in the same old way with their ex GM now running 'his' league.
The mess the South Launy/Storm/Prospect Hawks has become is purely the fault of AFL Tas. And it is a mess. If they had help South through their financial woes, they would be fine by now. Instead AFLTas took the players & gave them to Smedley, they are still a financial black hole. The last 2 years have been a W.O.T.
Has anyone actually been to the Prospect Hawks ground? Will anyone go & play their? Will anyone support them?
 
The Prospect ground is only just big enough for NTFA div 2 football, great for junior football. If the Goals were shifted back can gain another 20 meters and the surface is average at best. Player and umpire facilities are not up to scratch being the whole building was original for a Soccer/Cricket club so the rooms are very small. Spectator facilities are like most country/suburban clubs but hey no one hardly goes to Aurora stadium for TSL so really won't make much difference.
 
sherrin50 said:
Glenorchy would probably be in the same boat regarding exemptions. don't a northen club have the same situation with their fly in player in tarrent. I agree and cant see why the likes of wingnut and co are not going to some club like tigers etc. but duggan, halton, degroot,jones etc should be made play in their real zone not at clubs where its easy money. wouldn't that be something to watch if afl tas found some integrity and made it happen. afl tas need an actual plan to structure the comp where clubs are not going to be put under financial stress from the start. how can clubs exist with the falling gate takings, and the travelling costs that escalate every year under the current form. patrons vote with their feet don't they realise that. Hmmm Tasmanian football is in crisis already this year, regarding next year........
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I recon Glenorchy would have when Acker played, then Tarrant North Launy & Robinson at Burnie.

Callinan is living back here, not flying in/out for games.

I dont know what AFLTas are trying to do. Bankrolling the South/Storm/Prospect show. Checking the Meander Valley development plan for the facility over the next 20 years & Google earth, it looks like a nice suburban park for kids to play sport. No crowd facilities, no fences. Nice, but basic, very basic.

I've understand long term planning, but this seems stupid, especially when it would have been better/ cheaper/quicker to help South Launy through their hard times. At least they have supporters & a ground with some facilities & a history, and a future!
 
madmug said:
I recon Glenorchy would have when Acker played, then Tarrant North Launy & Robinson at Burnie.

Callinan is living back here, not flying in/out for games.

I dont know what AFLTas are trying to do. Bankrolling the South/Storm/Prospect show. Checking the Meander Valley development plan for the facility over the next 20 years & Google earth, it looks like a nice suburban park for kids to play sport. No crowd facilities, no fences. Nice, but basic, very basic.

I've understand long term planning, but this seems stupid, especially when it would have been better/ cheaper/quicker to help South Launy through their hard times. At least they have supporters & a ground with some facilities & a history, and a future!
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Acker & Tarrant were more like guest players neither of them would of played more than six games in the one year, As madmug has stated Callinan will be playing all year and living back in the State, it's a done deal FFS Little Scott won't say no to his ex employees who helped him get the gig in the first place.

After next year the Prospect Hawks name will be tarnished beyond repair maybe in 2017 a new name Meander Valley Vulters this seems to me in-line with the marketing of this new team, Hell storm had a shelf life of barely two years.
 
GreyBudgie said:
Acker & Tarrant were more like guest players neither of them would of played more than six games in the one year, As madmug has stated Callinan will be playing all year and living back in the State, it's a done deal FFS Little Scott won't say no to his ex employees who helped him get the gig in the first place.

After next year the Prospect Hawks name will be tarnished beyond repair maybe in 2017 a new name Meander Valley Vulters this seems to me in-line with the marketing of this new team, Hell storm had a shelf life of barely two years.
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I would like to know the dollar amount that Clarence want to exceed the salary cap by. As you said the other players like Tarrant and Acker only played a few games not a whole season like Callinan intends to. A player like Callinan could probably demand 20k or more a year and if Clarence were close to their salary cap last year they may be a long way past the 70k cap that all the other clubs are ask to stick to. We all know the salary cap is a bit of a joke and it seems to me that Clarence just couldn't hide this that's why they have asked for the "exemption".
 
Great articles in today's AGE and this weeks INSIDE FOOTBALL on tsl young gun Mitch Hibberd, has overcome a lot of adversity to now be a likely first round draft pick. A real good news story.
 
GreyBudgie said:
I certainly Blame the AFL I think they are Happy to have people who don't stir the pot with Head Office running the local Office in the backwaters this lot down here remind me of F-Troop (Sorry only us old farts might get that reference),

They have certainly seen Grass Root football decimated Australia Wide in the last twenty years but hey its all about the AFL "Brand"
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That's probably the biggest issue of them all. AFL Tas view themselves as a corporate mini-AFL rather than a community football custodian. Their focus is all about branding a competition that has no presence to begin with. And on being seen with AFL "names". Actually helping clubs, state league or other leagues, is outside their self-aggrendised remit.
The very name "AFL Tasmania", when the one part of football they have no say over is AFL, says a lot. Its only symbolic, but symbolic of the thinking that seems to go on.
The AFL creates GC and GWS. To mimic their masters, AFL Tas creates the Storm and Tigers, going one better and demoting clubs along the way.

Having the show largely run from Melbourne and dependent on AFL funds to stay afloat doesn't help, but sadly the way the AFL has steamrolled over the sport as a whole there is no choice.

Now the Storm are losing players, and going back to being the Hawks - which is what they were as South Prospect, so I don't mind that.

And its no better at other levels. The NEFU is on its deathbed, with Branxholm managing three games in 2015.
 
Ben Halton not playing for Lauderdale 2016 ?? is this the case who is going to cover that spot. Rumours are that five top senior players are not resigning, I cant see this happening personally.

is their any information on how many clubs are going to field seniors, development and u18s. the 18 are going to state wide apparently. some clubs this year couldn't supply a development squad let alone an u18s side. where is the extra monies coming from to run them around the state if it is going to happen.

Mitch Hibberd what a nice young bloke had a few issues along the way but has stuck at it and looks like he will go first round not to shabby i recon. who else is likely to be drafted couldn't be too many more after lovell.
 

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