How much does it cost to become an AFL member? Aren't there joining fees, etc.?
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How much does it cost to become an AFL member? Aren't there joining fees, etc.?
Membership is $325 per annum, payable in full or in monthly instalments of $27.08.
For the first year, there is a once-off joining fee of $275, payable in full or in monthly instalments of $22.92, for a total of $50.00 per month for the first year.
Total cost of $600 for the first year, but about half that for future years. No cost to upgrade from Silver to Full Member status once invited - approx 7-8 years.
But you have to pay $105 for your GF ticket.
MCC is $555 for Full Member, $435 for Restricted. $66 fee to nominated for wait list. $726 joining fee once a member. Approx 20 year wait for Full Member status. Price of admission to GF is included in membership fee.
Thanks. That's a fair whack.
Of course there wasn't much wrong with the old Southern Stand, and it held more people. But the AFL couldn't charge a premium for the seats.
mcgarnacle
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seriously, those scavengers stand out in the telecast of every game played at the MCG.............its been the worst ive ever seen it during this year's finals series. what a ****ing pain in the arse they are. the AFL should just schedule games at the beach.
seriously, those scavengers stand out in the telecast of every game played at the MCG.............its been the worst ive ever seen it during this year's finals series. what a ****ing pain in the arse they are. the AFL should just schedule games at the beach.
Keep trying. The old Southern Stand was found to have significant structural problems due its 50 year age. There are more seats today in the Southern Stand than previous - the reason capacity is decreased is due to the virtual elimination of standing room tickets, a well-recognised safety issue in sporting stadia.
If things were done your way, we would still have people sitting on concrete and wooden seats, with run down facilities, and unsafe standing room behind the goals.
Not sure how $325 for access to 40 games is a "fair whack". How much do you pay for your Richmond membership, and how many games does it get you into ?
I refuse to buy 17-game memberships (though I attend all Victorian games). I think this year the 11-game membership was around ~$170 - a far cry from the $600 it would cost me to sign up for an AFL membership next year. And I don't want to attend 40 games.
In the same way that Arden St. and others were declared "fire hazards", which conveniently supported the policy of ground rationalisation?
That's my point - nobody demanded better facilities. The AFL/MCC studied US trends and realised they could make a killing from a "better class" of sports fan. Unsafe my arse.
Southern Stand had concrete cancer, and was due for replacement. Timing of the Cricket World Cup meant it had to be replaced. It was an MCC issue. It didn't have the funds, the AFL and its members stepped up and funded it.
As for unsafe, look up the Hillsborough disaster. Resulted in mass changes to soccer stadiums around Europe, and virtual elimination of standing room seating.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillsborough_disaster
The ever increasing attendances at AFL home and away games, and demand for finals tickets suggests fans are very happy with the improved stadia.
I don't see how the current standing room area is much different from the previous one, other than capacity.
Let's have a few rounds where every game starts at 2pm on Saturday afternoon so we can conduct a direct comparison.
LukeParkerno1
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There was not a 20 year waiting list at the start of the stadium development. The waiting list is not 20 years either(more like 10). The Grand Final is an event, how many times do I have to say this- I have been to about 14 grand finals, I have seen my side play ONCE in 2000. To say members do not get value back is dumb. They can go to any game at the MCG, the cricket, etc. Not to mention the fact that it guarantees you a ticket at the Grand Final. For people that are too lazy to put their name down I have zero sympathy for missing out.
hogman
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Mate,not all tickets go to AFL or MCC members do they? I was refering to the the minimal quantity in particular that go to The Clubs and the way that they are inflated in value way beyond their face value,an action most likely illegal if it was actioned upon.
I note with interest your 'matter of fact' answers to the many posters on here who are feeling annoyed about not being able to attend a grand Final unless they are wealthy,are MCC members or are lucky enough to win a competition.Easy enough to if you are one of the privilaged few eh?I have been once to the MCG and there are signs everywhere that read The MCG the peoples stadium. What a load of bollocks
LukeParkerno1
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People sacrifice things in life. I hate to be as blunt as this but if you don't want to put aside $600 each year for the MCC or the AFL membership, then that is your decision. But don't come screaming when you fail to get grand final tickets. You can't have it both ways. You either pay up or you don't go. Pretty simple. We live in a capitalist society whether you like it or not!
I may well be "matter of fact" with people who like to predict the outcome of non-existing legal proceedings, while possessing a clear ignorance of the law in question. The legality of tickets sold by the AFL and its clubs cannot be challenged, because they are the licensed sellers for the event. It is the on-sellers who have no distribution rights, and therefore can be prosecuted for scalping. My apologies if my directness offends, but you are not informed on the subject.
I am hardly privileged. Probably most like you, I have a mortgage and bills to pay and don't own yachts, ferraris, etc. I do however pay $325 pa for my AFL membership having served my waiting period, knowing this was my best shot to guarantee myself a GF ticket. A small price to pay if you ask me. Having served my waiting period, and paid full membership prices during the meantime, with no access to GF tickets, I object to people coming on here and stating that the very people who directly contributed to building new stands, replacing old seating with new, should no longer be granted entry to the GF, and that "true fans" should get more, as if AFL and MCC members are not "true fans".
The peoples stadium does not equal everyone's stadium. If it did, it would mean everyone could go. And clearly there just aren't enough seats to go round. Some will miss out, some will be lucky. Those who miss out, AND those who get to go, are ALL people, ya know.
LukeParkerno1
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According to MCC site, those who put their name down in 1995 were given Restricted memberships this year (14 year wait), and those offered Full memberships registered in 1988 (21 year wait).
As you say, the wait lists were not nearly as long as they are now, and as such those registering now can expect much longer waits than 20 years.
http://www.mcc.org.au/Membership/Waiting List/How long must I wait.aspx
LukeParkerno1
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My family put all our names down in the 80's, so we all have full memberships now. My membership, dad's membership, and my sister's membership. Dad does not always go to the GF as he works weekends sometimes. My sister is in London this year so she won't be there- mind you she hates both sides so she would not go anyway. She will go to the GF if the sides have "cuties" as she puts it. I go every year.
No idea what the waitlist was when dad bought all the memberships but I do know he put away about $2000 each year to pay for the memberships, and we all sacrificed things (as we are not ultra rich so to speak) to pay for the memberships.
No idea what the waitlist was when dad bought all the memberships but I do know he put away about $2000 each year to pay for the memberships, and we all sacrificed things (as we are not ultra rich so to speak) to pay for the memberships.
The wait times increased vastly about five years ago, when the MCC rationalised its waiting list. It was about the time that the Northern Stand redevelopment was taking place.
Basically, the MCC required every member on the waiting list to confirm their desire to remain on the waiting list. They didn't have to commit to taking up membership. The idea was that thousands of members had been nominated at birth but they had no interest in taking up membership.
Thousands of names were culled from the list and the waiting times were cut considerably for thousands more. However, once the list had been condensed, it meant the wait increased dramatically for those further back in the queue.
Basically, the MCC required every member on the waiting list to confirm their desire to remain on the waiting list. They didn't have to commit to taking up membership. The idea was that thousands of members had been nominated at birth but they had no interest in taking up membership.
Thousands of names were culled from the list and the waiting times were cut considerably for thousands more. However, once the list had been condensed, it meant the wait increased dramatically for those further back in the queue.
I might be way off the mark here, but just by reading these posts, you’d think that the Mcc members were the one’s that paid for all the upgrades. Tell me if I am wrong, but don’t the supporters, that watch their teams play each week pay for the stadium. Lets do sum sums, Say the supporter pays on average $60 per game and 40,ooo go to the game, and there are three games played per week, that adds up to $7,200,000,per week, less expenses . Now are you saying that the two competing clubs get the money, or does most of it go to the Mcc.
What?
There's no way that the average ticket is $60 per game. Try something like $25, averaging across premuim reserved seats, general admission and concession entries.
Now of those 40,000 attending the MCG, about half will be club members. They will have paid less than the average $25 to enter, by virtue of discounted entry as part of their membership. And that won't have been paid on the day.
Similarly, AFL and MCC members probably make up another 10,000 of that 40,000 - at a minimum. They won't have paid on the day either.
So, there will only be about 10,000 of those spectators who have paid for a ticket for that particular game. At $25 per head, that's $250,000 in gate recepits.
Now of course there is a portion of the funds from the AFL and club members that will go to the MCC trust as ground managers. I don't know what that is, but it's not the whole $25 average entry fee, that's for sure. Let's be generous and say it's two-thirds ($16).
That's 20,000 x $16 = $320,000. Add the $250,000 from the direct entry folk and you've got $570,000.
Now multiply that by three games = $1.71 million.
The MCC already has more than $40 million in annual subscriptions from the MCC members, so that doesn't count in the tally.
While it's not accurate, I suggest that $1.71 million is far closer to the figure of the weekly income the MCC receives from hosting matches at the ground.
Over the course of a year, far more money would come from advertising, corporate functions and suites, and MCC members.
The AFL members' subscriptions go towards the AFL's contribution to the ground redevelopments.
And you wonder why those groups get good access to GF tickets?
Save your 'peoples' champion' routine.
If someone really, really wants to go to the Grand Final, there's a good chance they'll find a way. And if they're not willing to pay market prices, then they don't want to go badly enough.
The alternative is that they'll have to watch the game on a big screen, surrounded by mates, with a BBQ, beers, a kick out on the road at half time. How horrible for them.
I'm in South America, and I'll have to watch the game as a live stream on the internet beginning at 1am. The difference is that I'm an adult about it, and accept that the situation I'm in regarding the GF is a function of choices I'VE MADE this year.
F***en harden up Australia...
When old sports fans die, they re-incarnate as seagulls. Not a bad second life - no problems getting into the Grand Final or the Boxing Day Test.
Who did you have to sleep with to score this?
Shows how wrong the ballot is I guess.
Good Luck!
God I love listening to people whinge about GF tickets.....
Please, carry on. It will please me......
Please, carry on. It will please me......
I am not wingeing, I don't go, I have more fun with my mates and the bbq. this discussion is about how the tickets should be allocated.
What I'd like to see is the grand final played on the home ground of the team that finishes on top (Say WCE), then see who Winges.
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