Politics ghettos

[JoondalupJ]

Just watched Sixty minutes, I see that Nazi Isreal learned from the Warsaw ghetto how to trample all over Palistinians in Gaza.
The Gaza Ghetto will go down in history as Isreals crime against humanity
equaling the "couldn't give a stuff" feeling the Nazis had for the Jews.
AND DON'T CALL ME ANTI SEMETIC! I'M JUST ANTI MONGREL TUNNEL VISIONED BASTARD THATS ALL! Get the play on words.This is 2010 the world is totally ratshit folks. Goodnight and good luck,and I mean "good luck" trying to understand politics and arseholes.

 

[mantis]

The fact you watch 60 minutes says it all.

 

[JoondalupJ]

The fact you watch 60 minutes says it all.

Yep and a few read what I said but had nothing to say. World is also full of chickens, that can't cluck.

 

[nicky]

Mantis what's with the one line troll anyway? Seriously it's all you do on here.

I'm not a chicken op, it's just been said a gazillion times before. FWIW i agree with you.

 

[linga_is_no1]

Just watched Sixty minutes, I see that Nazi Isreal learned from the Warsaw ghetto how to trample all over Palistinians in Gaza.
The Gaza Ghetto will go down in history as Isreals crime against humanity
equaling the "couldn't give a stuff" feeling the Nazis had for the Jews.
AND DON'T CALL ME ANTI SEMETIC! I'M JUST ANTI MONGREL TUNNEL VISIONED BASTARD THATS ALL! Get the play on words.This is 2010 the world is totally ratshit folks. Goodnight and good luck,and I mean "good luck" trying to understand politics and arseholes.

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? I'm not anti-semtetic, just anti-jewish countries.

 

[Play by Numbers]

Do you have any idea how ridiculous that sounds? I'm not anti-semtetic, just anti-jewish countries.

lol wut?

He dosn't approve of Israels virtual apartheid of certain Palestinian lands and settlements.

Hardly anti-semetic.

 

[Karbo]

Haha, just watched the clip and I now remember why I haven't watched 60 minutes in years.

An entire report about the tunnel network between Gaza and Egypt and not a single mention of the blockade (far more severe than Israel's) imposed by Egypt... A tunnel network used to smuggle weapons in order to intentionally inflict harm upon Israeli citizens by an elected terrorist organisation who decrees in its charter to "obliterate" Israel... and yet Israel are the bad guy. Oh dear, 60 minutes taking biased, unprofessional reporting to a whole new level here.

 

[blackcat]

Haha, just watched the clip and I now remember why I haven't watched 60 minutes in years.

An entire report about the tunnel network between Gaza and Egypt and not a single mention of the blockade (far more severe than Israel's) imposed by Egypt... A tunnel network used to smuggle weapons in order to intentionally inflict harm upon Israeli citizens by an elected terrorist organisation who decrees in its charter to "obliterate" Israel... and yet Israel are the bad guy. Oh dear, 60 minutes taking biased, unprofessional reporting to a whole new level here.

black is white, up is down. You do not even know why Egypt maintain the blockade.

Israel is a terrorist state. I think that is far more heinous than the suicide bombs that Hamas put an end to a few years back, and demonstrated a discipline.

What is more heinous, the 2000 Lebabese civilians and 1000 Gazans in 2006 and 2008, or a few Israelis? Then we have the consistent murders by the IDF on the West Bank.

Better quit while you are ahead, clearly demonstrated your ignorance.

Hamas effectively redacted their charter when they issued a 50 year truce with Israel. I think actions speak louder than words, and the state terror and murder by Israel, is more egregious than rhetoric and Israel hasbara talking points.

 

[Karbo]

black is white, up is down. You do not even know why Egypt maintain the blockade.

Israel is a terrorist state. I think that is far more heinous than the suicide bombs that Hamas put an end to a few years back, and demonstrated a discipline.

What is more heinous, the 2000 Lebabese civilians and 1000 Gazans in 2006 and 2008, or a few Israelis? Then we have the consistent murders by the IDF on the West Bank.

Better quit while you are ahead, clearly demonstrated your ignorance.

Hamas effectively redacted their charter when they issued a 50 year truce with Israel. I think actions speak louder than words, and the state terror and murder by Israel, is more egregious than rhetoric and Israel hasbara talking points.

Err… I was responding to the 60 minutes report which was one-sided hogwash. The report suggested that the tunnels were Gaza’s only source of food. That is bullshit for two reasons. 1. The tunnels are used to smuggle weapons. 2. Go to any Israeli border crossing and you will see dozens of trucks carrying supplies into Gaza.

The crux of the report was these “dangerous” tunnels into Egypt, yet there was no mention of the strict Egyptian blockade, and no attempt was made to interview the Egyptian foreign ministry about why this is the case?

It was a shit report, though I expected nothing less from 60 minutes.

As for your post, well.. life isn't fair. History is full of bullshit borders - Africa, Europe... Everywhere. Israel isn't here to please its enemies, it's here to protect its citizens and for the past 62 it has done so effectively... under extreme duress in many cases.

Even one rocket attack fired into Israel is too many, and Israel have every right to impose its power on those that threaten it. Life isn't fair blackcat, time to accept it and move on.

If the situation still bothers you, maybe look at it differently. You know, Israeli citizens have achieved many great things... things that would not have been achieved had Israel not existed in the state it has for the past 62 years. Things that would not have been possible had the Palestinians not been displaced. So my argument (hear me out) is that these citizens have generated more "happiness" for the rest of the world through these various accomplishments in a range of fields (particularly Science and Technology), than "sadness" for the Palestinians... So Palestinian happiness down, but world happiness up...way up, so overall the world is in a better place. I prefer to think of it this way.

 

[nicky]

Err
If the situation still bothers you, maybe look at it differently. You know, Israeli citizens have achieved many great things... things that would not have been achieved had Israel not existed in the state it has for the past 62 years. Things that would not have been possible had the Palestinians not been displaced. So my argument (hear me out) is that these citizens have generated more "happiness" for the rest of the world through these various accomplishments in a range of fields (particularly Science and Technology), than "sadness" for the Palestinians... So Palestinian happiness down, but world happiness up...way up, so overall the world is in a better place. I prefer to think of it this way.

The middle east situation is complicated and the right resolution is near impossible now. However, I think it's reasonable to expect some level of awarness to what the current situation is about. Many people are not against Israel having its own state, that IS NOT the issue. Today, the issue is Israel ILLEGALLY occupying Gaza and the West Bank. Whereby they bulldoze palestinian homes and create ILLEGAL settlements, make it impossible for palestinians to acquire land or work, have checkpoints where by palestinians have to present identification (these checkpoints will often stop palestinian ambulance where women and babies have died in child birth), impose curfews and brutal interrogation tactics. This all happening on Palestinian Land, not ISRAELS... There is no disputing this, this is not a point that can be argued.

You do not understand the basic conflict therefore you cannot be taken seriously.

ps. Your point about israel creating happiness could quite well be the silliest and stupidest argument i have read on BF.

 

[blackcat]

the importation of humanitarian aid, only accounts for part daily nutritional intake needs. It is only staples. Rice, maize, wheat.

The medical studies have shown that infants have stunted growth from inadequate nutrition, but Karbo, keep up the Hasbara you jerk.

As much as I dislike the rockets on civilians in Ashkelon and Sderot, the Palestinians have every right to defend themselves against the jackboot of Israeli offensive militarism.

Up is down, black is white. The only people with due requirement to defend themselves, and the Palestinians. Not the Julia Gillard quoted Hasbara. An Raimond Gaita. What regrettable public figures we have.

Nicky. The ME aint complicated. It is quite simple as Finkelstein makes out. UN Resolution 240, and "Peaceful Resolution to the Palestinian Problem".

It is only a problem, because Israel wish to colonise all of Judea and Samara. There is an article on the Observer about how a young Ben Yahoo told a journalist back in the late 70's or early 80's about his conception of transfer. Transfer has always been a central tenet of Zionism. Zionism is the problem in this case.

 

[Dawson]

The middle east situation is complicated and the right resolution is near impossible now. .

You do not understand the basic conflict therefore you cannot be taken seriously.

It is not that difficult to fix, if the World as a whole told Israel to pull back to the 1948 borders and then the world as a whole told all of the Arab nations, hands off - then problem solved.

Simplistic? yes
Workable? If the world wanted it then yes

Now look at the nay sayers crawl out of the wood work

 

[nicky]

You're both right there is a simple solution.

A big problem when discussing the ME conflict is people confuse the issue by claiming Israel have a right to protect their borders etc. I don't know if they do this on purpose to deflect the issue or if they're plain ignorant.

 

[Karbo]

the importation of humanitarian aid, only accounts for part daily nutritional intake needs. It is only staples. Rice, maize, wheat.

What humanitarian aid are the Egyptians sending over? Ohh...

The medical studies have shown that infants have stunted growth from inadequate nutrition, but Karbo, keep up the Hasbara you jerk.

Medical studies have also shown that 80-95% of children living in Sderot suffer from PTSD. There's always two sides.

As much as I dislike the rockets on civilians in Ashkelon and Sderot, the Palestinians have every right to defend themselves against the jackboot of Israeli offensive militarism.

Up is down, black is white. The only people with due requirement to defend themselves, and the Palestinians. Not the Julia Gillard quoted Hasbara. An Raimond Gaita. What regrettable public figures we have.

The Palestinians have a right to defend themselves, and Israel have a right to defend themselves. Both sides have a right to defend themselves... Israel are just better at it.

Nicky. The ME aint complicated. It is quite simple as Finkelstein makes out. UN Resolution 240, and "Peaceful Resolution to the Palestinian Problem".

The idea of peace is nice, but fanciful. Hate runs through the veins of Palestinian children and the Hamas peace offer you mentioned above would not be permanent. Surely you're not stupid enough to believe it would.

It is only a problem, because Israel wish to colonise all of Judea and Samara. There is an article on the Observer about how a young Ben Yahoo told a journalist back in the late 70's or early 80's about his conception of transfer. Transfer has always been a central tenet of Zionism. Zionism is the problem in this case.

I agree, it sucks. Maybe their Arab neighbours will help them out...

And nicky my 'happiness' theory is 100% spot on.

 

[nicky]

So then the Germans final solution would have been a ok as long as they made advances in science the rest of the world could enjoy?

 

[Pie eyed]

If the situation still bothers you, maybe look at it differently. You know, Israeli citizens have achieved many great things... things that would not have been achieved had Israel not existed in the state it has for the past 62 years. Things that would not have been possible had the Palestinians not been displaced. So my argument (hear me out) is that these citizens have generated more "happiness" for the rest of the world through these various accomplishments in a range of fields (particularly Science and Technology), than "sadness" for the Palestinians... So Palestinian happiness down, but world happiness up...way up, so overall the world is in a better place. I prefer to think of it this way.

What because they inhabit someone else land?

These individuals would have not achieved in another country?

You cannot defend the way the Palestinians had their land stolen using rubbish like that.

 

[Karbo]

So then the Germans final solution would have been a ok as long as they made advances in science the rest of the world could enjoy?

The world happiness concept isn't a justification, it's merely a different angle for which to view the situation. nicky, sometimes you have to search for the positives, no matter how dire the circumstances appear, and no matter how difficult these positives may be to comprehend. It's a healthier way to live... accept the situation you have no control over and always look on the bright side.

 

[Dawson]

The world happiness concept isn't a justification, it's merely a different angle for which to view the situation. nicky, sometimes you have to search for the positives, no matter how dire the circumstances appear, and no matter how difficult these positives may be to comprehend. It's a healthier way to live... accept the situation you have no control over and always look on the bright side.

Brian, is that you?

 

[nicky]

The world happiness concept isn't a justification, it's merely a different angle for which to view the situation. nicky, sometimes you have to search for the positives, no matter how dire the circumstances appear, and no matter how difficult these positives may be to comprehend. It's a healthier way to live... accept the situation you have no control over and always look on the bright side.

No worries, I'll apply that the first time i see you slighted about something.

 

[blackcat]

good for a laff, take your fill of ziocaine's anthropomorphism.

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[bit_pattern]

That made my night

 

[nicky]

good for a laff, take your fill of ziocaine's anthropomorphism.

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Surely that is a piss take on the britney fan??
Not real, just can't be.

 

[blackcat]

definitely could be false flag.

but...
Zio whack jobs include US Senator Chuck Schumer:

Israel has sent phone text messages to Palestinians in Gaza saying, “Leave your homes, because there are weapons inside them.” What other country would do that?

@35 seconds in

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[blackcat]

Surely that is a piss take on the britney fan??
Not real, just can't be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYskawC6-GY&feature=related

seems it is http://www.youtube.com/user/jewishjournal

Inspired by Chris Crocker's infamous and passionate YouTube appeal for people to leave Britney alone in the wake of her failed performance at the MTV 2007 Music Video Awards, Orit from Israel has created a passionate appeal to the world community to LEAVE ISRAEL ALONE! [WARNING STRONG LANGUAGE!]

This is directed to anyone who dares bash Israel and demand she make concessions.

This is a direct parody of Chris' original, go to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWSjUe...

 

[nicky]

definitely could be false flag.

but...
Zio whack jobs include US Senator Chuck Schumer:


@35 seconds in

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The woman being interviewed @ 2.05 gets my vote for the stupidest person award.

Is the jewish interviewer exposing the stupidity of these people? It's comforting to know there are plenty of jewish people who are against what israel are doing. Even Israelis.