Unsolved Girls that went missing from Adelaide Oval 1973

[Kurve]

Of interest.
- Arthur Brown - The Beaumont Children

 

[Angry Red Bull]

The interesting thing about that Under Investigation special by Liz Hayes is it was attended by Bograt... ********. I have zero faith in his capacity for critical thinking. At the end they asked opinions about the match for Brown and the testimony of Sue Laurie and he still opted for Hart.

Hart has history for sure. The problem with Hart is that identikit man was unconcerned drawing attention to
himself. The Beaumont case on busiest beach and busiest day and AO case where he dragged two children for kilometres. Hart was known for his offending. And lived locally at the time. Immediately recognisable. Much more likely it was a out of town stranger

 

[PenfoldsFan]

The interesting thing about that Under Investigation special by Liz Hayes is it was attended by Bograt... ********. I have zero faith in his capacity for critical thinking. At the end they asked opinions about the match for Brown and the testimony of Sue Laurie and he still opted for Hart.

Hart has history for sure. The problem with Hart is that identikit man was unconcerned drawing attention to
himself. The Beaumont case on busiest beach and busiest day and AO case where he dragged two children for kilometres. Hart was known for his offending. And lived locally at the time. Immediately recognisable. Much more likely it was a out of town stranger

Its said that Hart was 'assisted' with his move to Yatina to reduce his exposure to children due to his pedophilia.
This to me says he was so bad and so open about it that he really didnt care who saw what, it also suggests that whoever 'assisted' was more concerned with hiding his activities than bringing them to light and him to account.
He may well have been seen by someone who knew of his activities but it was deemed safer to say nothing.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Its said that Hart was 'assisted' with his move to Yatina to reduce his exposure to children due to his pedophilia.
This to me says he was so bad and so open about it that he really didnt care who saw what, it also suggests that whoever 'assisted' was more concerned with hiding his activities than bringing them to light and him to account.
He may well have been seen by someone who knew of his activities but it was deemed safer to say nothing.

Very true. I remember that quote which implies sociopathic behaviour too. So Hart may have some of the same tendencies as Brown. At this point though we have no known history of Hart being a killer.

 

[Zebo]

Its said that Hart was 'assisted' with his move to Yatina to reduce his exposure to children due to his pedophilia.
This to me says he was so bad and so open about it that he really didnt care who saw what, it also suggests that whoever 'assisted' was more concerned with hiding his activities than bringing them to light and him to account.
He may well have been seen by someone who knew of his activities but it was deemed safer to say nothing.

Hart owned his Yatina house for a long while prior to shifting up there 'permanently'. When is he said to have been 'assisted' to move up there?

 

[Angus Young]

Has to be one of these two campaigners.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Hart owned his Yatina house for a long while prior to shifting up there 'permanently'. When is he said to have been 'assisted' to move up there?

Can't remember where I read it but have several times. Think it may have been one of Bograt's old posts. Agree with inferences that he was so bad it was causing too much heat on them all. We have no proof he is a murderer though.

 

[GreyCrow]

Trans person strikes again

From August 1973 report

 

[GreyCrow]

Stooped man

 

[GreyCrow]

So within 2 reports in the same week we have 2 different suspects

It must have been difficult for police with all these differing descriptions and suspects

The problem is compounded as different ''theorists'' grab one of these reports and hold on to it as the truth - when its likely to be a shotgun approach by police and reporters

 

[johnymac1]

So within 2 reports in the same week we have 2 different suspects

It must have been difficult for police with all these differing descriptions and suspects

The problem is compounded as different ''theorists'' grab one of these reports and hold on to it as the truth - when its likely to be a shotgun approach by police and reporters

the first report would have confused matters. Irresponsible for the media for posting it. would have sent the public looking for Harry Phipps.
We know the witnesses at the ground report seeing the stooped older man.

 

[charlie20]

what if the whole funny walk/stoop description, which has had so much traction for so long, was actually ... a lie?

 

[Angry Red Bull]

So within 2 reports in the same week we have 2 different suspects

It must have been difficult for police with all these differing descriptions and suspects

The problem is compounded as different ''theorists'' grab one of these reports and hold on to it as the truth - when its likely to be a shotgun approach by police and reporters

Are you referring to the transgender person AND the identakit man abductor? I suspect that the trans person was merely a witness probably identified by other witnesses but didn't give any testimony. That's what I recall. There is some suggestion this person was standing guard to help facilitate the abduction. Don't know....just a guess. Interesting that no one came forward.

Identakit man was clearly the abductor. He clearly had a stoop.

 

[Lyn]

Are you referring to the transgender person AND the identakit man abductor? I suspect that the trans person was merely a witness probably identified by other witnesses but didn't give any testimony. That's what I recall. There is some suggestion this person was standing guard to help facilitate the abduction. Don't know....just a guess. Interesting that no one came forward.

Identakit man was clearly the abductor. He clearly had a stoop.

Are you referring to the transgender person AND the identakit man abductor? I suspect that the trans person was merely a witness probably identified by other witnesses but didn't give any testimony. That's what I recall. There is some suggestion this person was standing guard to help facilitate the abduction. Don't know....just a guess. Interesting that no one came forward.

Identakit man was clearly the abductor. He clearly had a stoop.

I wonder if the stoop, was due to the person being tall and stooping, or if it was do to a ailment. Seems hard to believe if someone had a back injury, they would be able to carry a three year old a great distance.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

I wonder if the stoop, was due to the person being tall and stooping, or if it was do to a ailment. Seems hard to believe if someone had a back injury, they would be able to carry a three year old a great distance.

Agreed. if it was injury related then makes it more difficult. That is quite an achievement for a middle aged man to carry one and drag another child kilometres. Impressive strength and fitness.

 

[charlie20]

Agreed. if it was injury related then makes it more difficult. That is quite an achievement for a middle aged man to carry one and drag another child kilometres. Impressive strength and fitness.

indeed, which is why it mightve been total bullshit, just to get everyone looking for a man with a stoop, when the actual perp mightve been anything but

 

[Angry Red Bull]

indeed, which is why it mightve been total bullshit, just to get everyone looking for a man with a stoop, when the actual perp mightve been anything but

But it was part of witness testimony of the assistant curator. Doubt they made it up

 

[charlie20]

But it was part of witness testimony of the assistant curator. Doubt they made it up

bingo, one of the keys to cracking this whole sordid case, the assistant curator said so, so it must be true ...

 

[Lyn]

indeed, which is why it mightve been total bullshit, just to get everyone looking for a man with a stoop, when the actual perp mightve been anything but

He may have been stooped - due to the facet he was carrying a three year old, rather than he usually walked with a stoop.

 

[Lyn]

Trans person strikes again

From August 1973 report

Could you please attach this in a file, so I could download it? Cheers

 

[Lyn]

Stooped man

And this on please. Or send them both through our mail box please

 

[Kurve]

Could you please attach this in a file, so I could download it? Cheers

You should be able to click on the image, then right click your mouse, click on 'save'.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

He may have been stooped - due to the facet he was carrying a three year old, rather than he usually walked with a stoop.

Agreed, if you're a tall person and you're carrying a small child in one arm whilst dragging/pulling along another older child with the other whilst attempting to make a swift get away, you'd be leaning forward which could quite easily be described as a stoop to someone who only witnessed it for a moment.

 

[Lyn]

Agreed, if you're a tall person and you're carrying a small child in one arm whilst dragging/pulling along another older child with the other whilst attempting to make a swift get away, you'd be leaning forward which could quite easily be described as a stoop to someone who only witnessed it for a moment.

Exactly, a person over 6ft, carrying a 3 year old and trying to keep an 11yo under control whilst making a get a way without a scene, could cause a stoop.

 

[Angry Red Bull]

Exactly, a person over 6ft, carrying a 3 year old and trying to keep an 11yo under control whilst making a get a way without a scene, could cause a stoop.

I seem to recall that the assistant curator saw the man before and then after the snatch. You would expect that SAPOL would have sought to distinguish if the stoop was there before

 

[Lyn]

I seem to recall that the assistant curator saw the man before and then after the snatch. You would expect that SAPOL would have sought to distinguish if the stoop was there before

Hmm yes, that would of helped.