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And presumably these challenges all magically disappear when the member hits 40?Mortgages, kids, cost of living. I dunno, quite a few reasons
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And presumably these challenges all magically disappear when the member hits 40?Mortgages, kids, cost of living. I dunno, quite a few reasons
I understand the attraction and it sounds so simple. However from experience this is not how it works in practice.I would've thought it's pretty obvious. Get a younger demographic in the door and try to keep them for the next 30 years. Most clubs would have an average age if 60+.
And presumably these challenges all magically disappear when the member hits 40?![]()
I understand the attraction and it sounds so simple. However from experience this is not how it works in practice.
Generally the 30-40yo set are shopping around to get the cheapest deal possible at a half decent course to minimise the cost. They want to have access to and snap up early tee times on Sat/Sun. Hence they pick up a tier 3 type membership at Kew/Southern/Patt River/Keysborough/Ranfurlie that offers the experience they want at as cheap a price as possible.
Then when they hit 40 and have to pay full tote odds they either move to a cheap restricted playing category or leave all together. They then re-enter club membership at age 55 or similar and due to the break/discounts they've received they have saved enough of a join fee to move up to a tier 1 or tier 2 club.
Hence the club that dropped their pants to get them in at age 30-35 sees none of the benefit of their noble work.
There's a reason the top clubs don't offer discounts for age 30-40.
A number of my clients went to the trouble of nominating me for membership at your club a few years back.Every club is different- mine has a waiting list of 5+ years and still offers a massive discount for 25-45 yos via a “restricted” membership that I think is about 25% of the regular subs. It kept me on the hook for that entire period!
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A number of my clients went to the trouble of nominating me for membership at your club a few years back.
They all provided references etc…. I baulked at the $8k? Joining fee….and the fact that I didn’t want to play with guys I invoiced on a regular basis….just gave them the potential to complain…more…about my services, after I whipped their arses on the course.
They were all mid 30’s hcp.
Which happens to have a cool under 40's discount thereby making it a perfect temporary holding spot whilst they wait to trade upThe process is such a painful one that I always make sure ppl are on board with the fees. And then what invariably happens is they join Portsea whilst on the wait list… Massive shame the clubs didn’t merge when it was on the cards a few years back.
What did you think of Gardiners run. Playing there Friday for the 1st timeHere's my list of courses played, lots of cheap locals but also a few highlights in there:
Edithvale
Oakleigh
Wattle Park
Gardiners Run
Glen Waverley Public
Spring Park
Malvern Valley
Rowville Lakes
Brighton Public
Portsea
Eagle Ridge
Hunter Valley
The Vintage
Cyprus Lakes
Sandringham Links
Hidden Valley
Churchill Park - Waverley & Endeavour Hills
Morack Public
Cape Schank
Peregian Springs
Beaconsfield Hills/Lakes
Pakenham Golf Course
Anglesea Golf Club
Lorne Country Club
Cheltenham Public
Waterford Valley
The Cups
Sugar Valley
Aussie Golf Ranch
Only played it once and was a couple of years ago, but enjoyed it. There's some great elevated tees and some nice varied holes, nice visual appeal.What did you think of Gardiners run. Playing there Friday for the 1st time
The Dunes
The Cups
Sorrento
Portsea
Eagle Ridge
Cape Schank
Nat - Old
Nat - Moonah
Nat - Gunnamatta
St Andrew’s Beach
Flinders
Bayviews Rosebud
Rosebud Cc North
Rosebud Cc South
Sorrento Downs - No longer in existence
Mt Martha
Devil Bend
Peninsula - North
Waterford Valley
Kingston Heath
Sandy Links
Kingswood
Lonsdale Links
Queenscliff
13th Beach - Beach
Apollo Bay
Hamilton Is
Barnbougle
Bougle Run
Lost Farm
Portarlington
Foster
Leongatha
Queenstown NZ
Jack’s Point NZ
Healesville
Huntingdale
My top 3 (aside from my own course) that I’ve enjoyed playing
1. Lost Farm … love it
2. Lonsdale Links
3. Nat - Moonah
I’m a links style course kinda guy
Sorrento Downs. Played that a bit when young, 12 holesThe Dunes
The Cups
Sorrento
Portsea
Eagle Ridge
Cape Schank
Nat - Old
Nat - Moonah
Nat - Gunnamatta
St Andrew’s Beach
Flinders
Bayviews Rosebud
Rosebud Cc North
Rosebud Cc South
Sorrento Downs - No longer in existence
Mt Martha
Devil Bend
Peninsula - North
Waterford Valley
Kingston Heath
Sandy Links
Kingswood
Lonsdale Links
Queenscliff
13th Beach - Beach
Apollo Bay
Hamilton Is
Barnbougle
Bougle Run
Lost Farm
Portarlington
Foster
Leongatha
Queenstown NZ
Jack’s Point NZ
Healesville
Huntingdale
My top 3 (aside from my own course) that I’ve enjoyed playing
1. Lost Farm … love it
2. Lonsdale Links
3. Nat - Moonah
I’m a links style course kinda guy
The National Old |
The National Moonah |
The National Gunnamatta |
The National Ocean |
The National Long Island |
Peninsula Kingswood north |
Peninsula Kingswood south |
Peninsula Kingswood Composite |
Kingswood |
The Dunes |
St Andrews Beach |
Flinders |
Cape Schanck |
Moonah Links Legends |
Moonah Links Open |
Cathedral Lodge |
Kingston Heath |
Metropolitan |
Royal Melbourne West |
Royal Melbourne East |
Huntingdale |
Victoria |
Commonwealth |
Yarra Yarra |
Woodlands |
Gardiners Run |
Yering |
Heritage St Johns |
Capital |
Waterford Valley (vale |
Ringwood |
Malvern Valley |
Morack |
Churchill Waverley |
Albert Park |
Oakleigh |
Glen waverley |
13th beach beach |
lonsdale links |
queenscliff |
Eynesbury |
Kew |
Keysborough |
Mornington |
Rosanna |
Riversdale |
Hidden Valley |
Cardinia Beaconhills |
Box Hill |
Sanctuary Cove pines |
Sanctuary Cove palms |
Kooyonga |
NSW |
The Lakes |
Bonville |
Ocean Dunes |
Cape Wickham |
Clearwater Bay |
Discovery Bay |
Zhuhai Golden Gulf |
Mission Hills - Dye course |
i like gardiners run. value for money and a fun courseWhat did you think of Gardiners run. Playing there Friday for the 1st time
Could be a great trackWhat did you think of Gardiners run. Playing there Friday for the 1st time
The youngest in a sailing family. You should be able to work it out.I hear an echo
Who was the 14 yo
This is my golf course tracker.
Comments are exceptional. Feel free to expand on your Woodlands cheat.
The Dunes
The Cups
Sorrento
Portsea
Eagle Ridge
Cape Schank
Nat - Old
Nat - Moonah
Nat - Gunnamatta
St Andrew’s Beach
Flinders
Bayviews Rosebud
Rosebud Cc North
Rosebud Cc South
Sorrento Downs - No longer in existence
Mt Martha
Devil Bend
Peninsula - North
Waterford Valley
Kingston Heath
Sandy Links
Kingswood
Lonsdale Links
Queenscliff
13th Beach - Beach
Apollo Bay
Hamilton Is
Barnbougle
Bougle Run
Lost Farm
Portarlington
Foster
Leongatha
Queenstown NZ
Jack’s Point NZ
Healesville
Huntingdale
My top 3 (aside from my own course) that I’ve enjoyed playing
1. Lost Farm … love it
2. Lonsdale Links
3. Nat - Moonah
I’m a links style course kinda guy
Played there on a weekly basis as a teenager, lived 200mts away.Extra points for Sorrento downs. Once copped a shanked mid-iron to the leg from an errant drive from my 14yo playing partner. Was 12 at the time.
If golf was re-invented, a 12 hole layout might be the answer.
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You need to get down to Barnbougle
The National Old The National Moonah The National Gunnamatta The National Ocean The National Long Island Peninsula Kingswood north Peninsula Kingswood south Peninsula Kingswood Composite Kingswood The Dunes St Andrews Beach Flinders Cape Schanck Moonah Links Legends Moonah Links Open Cathedral Lodge Kingston Heath Metropolitan Royal Melbourne West Royal Melbourne East Huntingdale Victoria Commonwealth Yarra Yarra Woodlands Gardiners Run Yering Heritage St Johns Capital Waterford Valley (vale )
Ringwood Malvern Valley Morack Churchill Waverley Albert Park Oakleigh Glen waverley 13th beach beach lonsdale links queenscliff Eynesbury Kew Keysborough Mornington Rosanna Riversdale Hidden Valley Cardinia Beaconhills Box Hill Sanctuary Cove pines Sanctuary Cove palms Kooyonga NSW The Lakes Bonville Ocean Dunes Cape Wickham Clearwater Bay Discovery Bay Zhuhai Golden Gulf Mission Hills - Dye course
Mark Allen on his pod spoke about gimmes recently. Surprisingly(to me anyway), he was all for them, even in comp rounds. Reckons they speed up play and the handicaps will take care of themselves, ie. the players who take gimmes will get a handicap that "matches up" with taking those gimmes.Think I spoke about him somewhere after the round.
"4" handicapper, invited us down for a round as guests. (gifts my mate a round, I have to pay) first issue. Look he is a good solid golfer but from about hole 2 start notice that he didn't putt out from within 6-8feet. Would tap it in. "yeah I got a 4.
Now we were in the daily sunday comp and with another member (good lad). This bloke starts calling him out and old mate would double down and be like nah I got a four, they gimmies. Other member wasn't standing for it.
He must have been fluffed because he missed a few drives with snap hook (tension?) And off he went to find the ball. Must have been 3 holes that he found his ball after we stopped looking for it in clearings and no issue getting to the green.
Recently spoke to another member there and apparently there is a handful of "cheats' and no one wants to play with them. Can only imagine he is one of them.
Made the round just not enjoyable. Here I am battling to get myself a good score and 3 putting regularly while he gives himself up and downs each time.