Goulburn Valley FL 2014

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Can any one put some light on benalla gun josh mellingtons sacking at Benalla Most likely play with ALbury BIG news

 

[ringo1]

Mate can you put that on the 2015 thread?

 

[Clinton11]

Hey Ringo,
Have St Patrick's College Ballarat offered footy scholarships to any potential Pioneers young blokes yet. They are renowned for it as the football program is top end under Howard Clark. They then filter them into the Rebels as the two are so closely linked with regards coaching and access to facilities. It doesn't help Pioneers or Bushrangers that is for sure.

 

[Clinton11]

Hi Silver tongue
I appreciate that your writings are well meaning, however they are ill informed and quite baseless. To suggest that St Patrick's College offer scholarships to Bendigo Pioneer and Murray Bushranger players is quite amusing especially as the student enrolments from these areas is remarkably low compared to other regional and city based schools. In fact out of the last 5 Herald Shield victories only two players have come out of these zones - Dallas Willsmore and Tom Downie with Tom coming to Ballarat purely for basketball reasons. It was only whilst Tom was at the College did he pursue football. To suggest that the strength of the programme is due to increased enrolment with scholarship holders in Years 11 and 12 is blatantly wrong. Based on the 2014 Herald Shield victory, 20 players out of the final squad of 24 were enrolled at the a College since 7 with an additional 2 having been at the College since the commencement of Year 9. Unlike some schools like Ballarat and Clarendon College at no point, does a member of the College attend the VLine cup or alternative championships to attract players. The school is extremely proud of what it has achieved (24 Old Collegians currently in the AFL system, 5 consecutive Herald Shield Victories) however it is the systems that are in place that the school is most proud of. Tours to the United Kingdom, The Northern Territory and Melbourne over a 3 year cycle have proved most beneficial whilst designing a Football Academy for the best 50 boys in Years 8 & 9 has proved as equally as positive. This system of player development has seen the Ballarat League adopt the same Academy style format to fast track their players in an attempt to replicate what the a College is doing. Granted some Indigenous boys relocate from the remote communities of the Northern Territory on IYLP scholarships however with 51 Indigenous students within the College and not one Indigenous boy making the final 24 in last years side, to suggest that the College's success is based on scholarships is wrong on every level...Granted the College has a great working relationship with the North Ballarat Rebels as it does with the Western Jets however the strength of the relationship is the numbers involved in the boys formative years at the College. Of the 46 boys who played either Div 1 or Div 3 in the VLine Cup, 36 attend the College and this surely is the strength of the programme....not the expressed scholarships as you deemed so eloquently.

 

[Silver Tongue]

Hi Silver tongue
I appreciate that your writings are well meaning, however they are ill informed and quite baseless. To suggest that St Patrick's College offer scholarships to Bendigo Pioneer and Murray Bushranger players is quite amusing especially as the student enrolments from these areas is remarkably low compared to other regional and city based schools. In fact out of the last 5 Herald Shield victories only two players have come out of these zones - Dallas Willsmore and Tom Downie with Tom coming to Ballarat purely for basketball reasons. It was only whilst Tom was at the College did he pursue football. To suggest that the strength of the programme is due to increased enrolment with scholarship holders in Years 11 and 12 is blatantly wrong. Based on the 2014 Herald Shield victory, 20 players out of the final squad of 24 were enrolled at the a College since 7 with an additional 2 having been at the College since the commencement of Year 9. Unlike some schools like Ballarat and Clarendon College at no point, does a member of the College attend the VLine cup or alternative championships to attract players. The school is extremely proud of what it has achieved (24 Old Collegians currently in the AFL system, 5 consecutive Herald Shield Victories) however it is the systems that are in place that the school is most proud of. Tours to the United Kingdom, The Northern Territory and Melbourne over a 3 year cycle have proved most beneficial whilst designing a Football Academy for the best 50 boys in Years 8 & 9 has proved as equally as positive. This system of player development has seen the Ballarat League adopt the same Academy style format to fast track their players in an attempt to replicate what the a College is doing. Granted some Indigenous boys relocate from the remote communities of the Northern Territory on IYLP scholarships however with 51 Indigenous students within the College and not one Indigenous boy making the final 24 in last years side, to suggest that the College's success is based on scholarships is wrong on every level...Granted the College has a great working relationship with the North Ballarat Rebels as it does with the Western Jets however the strength of the relationship is the numbers involved in the boys formative years at the College. Of the 46 boys who played either Div 1 or Div 3 in the VLine Cup, 36 attend the College and this surely is the strength of the programme....not the expressed scholarships as you deemed so eloquently.

I agree with most of what you say in relation to the football program, resourcing initiatives and structuring of junior development at the College. St Patrick's should be extremely proud of what they have achieved and the collaboration, energy and vision that has gone into it. But you must acknowledge the footy scholatship aspect of the program. My question about Pioneer and Bushranger players was exactly that: a question. The College has had many footballers turn up n Year 11 over the years that did not come through the program. St Pats boys still on AFL lists: Willsmore No not local (Yr 11), Crouch: (7), Gleeson No From Koroit (11), Close No from Harrow (11), Barry Alice Springs, Downie (11), Smith (11), Crouch (7), Neade Alice Springs (9), O'Brien (7), T McDonald (11), O McDonald (11), Cowan (7), Nicholson (11). That equates to eight of the last fourteen drafted have arrived in Year 11 as well as two Indigenous boys from up North who arrived n Year 9. Anyway, congratulations on your success and best of luck for the future.

 

[Silver Tongue]

I agree with most of what you say in relation to the football program, resourcing initiatives and structuring of junior development at the College. St Patrick's should be extremely proud of what they have achieved and the collaboration, energy and vision that has gone into it. But you must acknowledge the footy scholatship aspect of the program. My question about Pioneer and Bushranger players was exactly that: a question. The College has had many footballers turn up n Year 11 over the years that did not come through the program. St Pats boys still on AFL lists: Willsmore No not local (Yr 11), Crouch: (7), Gleeson No From Koroit (11), Close No from Harrow (11), Barry Alice Springs, Downie (11), Smith (11), Crouch (7), Neade Alice Springs (9), O'Brien (7), T McDonald (11), O McDonald (11), Cowan (7), Nicholson (11). That equates to eight of the last fourteen drafted have arrived in Year 11 as well as two Indigenous boys from up North who arrived n Year 9. Anyway, congratulations on your success and best of luck for the future.

By the way Clinton11, ypu really ought to take this conversation to the current 2015 thread. Cheers.

 

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Can the mod lock the 2014 thread

 

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