Nothing surprises me! Car services, leases, TAB vouchers etc. Some are compliant, some are complicit, which is why the Cap has to go!
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Livestock, blocks of land, fuel cards, free renovations, paying partners to play netball ... the list goes on and on.
The flights for travellers from Queensland and Darwin - betcha they aren't being included in the cap.
The flights for travellers from Queensland and Darwin - betcha they aren't being included in the cap.
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definitely a thing and unable to police.
know a guy who's son is being paid for his physio rehab based skills but runs out on a saturday in a premier comptition as close to the clubs best player.
just need to get inventive with the junior parents $500 per child and it escapes cap scrutiny.
know a guy who's son is being paid for his physio rehab based skills but runs out on a saturday in a premier comptition as close to the clubs best player.
just need to get inventive with the junior parents $500 per child and it escapes cap scrutiny.
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The salary cap is cooked - there are also some extremely highly paid junior coaches that just so happen to be high quality senior players.
I know that there are plenty that adhere to the rule of the land but it must be disheartening to see some blatantly cheating and it essentially being shrugged off.
Footy has been going a bloody long time in the country. I'll argue till the cows come home ( pun intended) that there should be no salary cap or points system and see how it plays out. Yes some clubs will fall over and some clubs amalgamate, but we have also seen that over the last 100 years as well. Every year I read how a club is getting around the points or salary cap. Level the playing field (pun intended) and see how the clubs cope.
Build it and don't interfere with it, and they will come.
Build it and don't interfere with it, and they will come.
Agree! Clubs are falling over or leaving leagues as they are now! The Bendigo League is cooked! Clubs stuck down the bottom—long eras of success. If the Cap was properly policed then I believe it would work. However, due to the ad-hoc checking of player payments, every league now has a club or clubs cheating the cap, Those that adhere to it cannot compete.
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Footy and populations though have changed significantly, most people live in Melbourne, Geelong, Bendigo and Ballarat now. Metro clubs were having 6+ guys straight out of the afl and form suburban super sides and win flags. The only guys coming to the country were guys who were getting older and their payments were getting dropped by the metro clubs.
at the moment The oandm is as strong as its ever being, geelong footy is strong, although more needs to be done on the monopolising of juniors there, gippsland footy is back to being a premier comp and a league like the North central is as strong as it was when it won the vcfl div 1 championship. Yes bendigo has dropped in standard but they still had Fergus Greene and tardrew come into the comp last year, who'd be in top 15 players in Vic country, and although the gv has dropped echuca might be the best club in the state
This in most cases is a very mis- leading perception which is rolled out often to justify the decline in people playing football .
Reality is , as it is within all GVL clubs that populations have grown at an enormous rate .
A relevant figure which places the popularity of the game into perspective , yet seemingly never considered, is the percentage of the population that is playing the game .
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Well sometimes roar, for example echuca Moama is 4 or 5 times larger than 40 years ago and should be able to restart the echuca and district league. But the high school enrolments at places like rochy and Rushworth have shrunk significantly. You have people move to these large areas who haven't grown up with footy and therefore their kids choose other things to do
But that isn’t due to population reduction , but moreso that kids are attending schools outside of where they live and subsequently playing junior footy in those towns which is an issue that’s been discussed many times .
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There aren't as many kids in towns like rochy, tat, euroa like the 1980s and 90s even places like maryborough. They are cheaper for boomers to retire hence their populations haven't reduced but not as many families
True. The data on population stats for example between small towns like Rochester and larger towns like Echuca are interesting if looked at from a sporting perspective. If you compare 2001 and 2021 Census data for people aged between 10-19 years. In 2001 Echuca had 1928 people and 2021 they had 2068. Rochester was 667 and 518. Tatura up from 416 to 476. There are 149 less people in an age bracket that fills sporting teams across the town and that is massive for Rochester but they have a good Secondary College in town. Tatura has increased but don't have the school so have a different pressure point other than negligible population growth.
The smaller towns have always been good at nurturing talent regardless of ability but when the pool keeps shrinking clubs have to keep finding ways to keep young players engaged in football.
Where are you obtaining your data on Rochester 10-19 year old ?
The Census website has Community Profile Data on all postcodes in Aus. Great resource
Sorry should have been clearly and stated for 2001 . The only data I’ve obtained from that website has had 2001 grouped as 5-14 and 15-24 whereas 2021 had 10-14 and 15-19
The Census website has Community Profile Data on all postcodes in Aus. Great resource
That’s how I’ve always used it but it has always and still does change age groupings prior to 2011 .
It should also be considered that the boundary area indicated for Rochester in census data prior to 2016 was significantly larger . Although there is a decrease in 10-19 between 2016 and 2021 figures there has been near the same increase in the 4 year either age brackets in 5-9 and 20-24 age brackets .
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