Opinion Griffin Logue, Moving Forward

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FreoRicci said:
He needs a pre season at that position. He’s not far off. He has those moments of ‘just near’ but too far. Takes some ripper ‘almost’ marks. Need to hang onto them
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I think you could be right there. A few years back Taberner could mark anything up the ground but inside the forward 50 he spilled just about everything. Then in the last few seasons he started to clunk them more consistently. You can tell Logue has been a little lacking in confidence in front of goal however he did kick a good set shot at the weekend. I think more confidence could come.
 
Descent said:
I agree with this. I think a back 7 of Pearce, Cox, Logue, Ryan, Young, Walker and Clark has a good balance of attack and defence. Cox can become more attacking in this setup, Walker can become more attacking. We clearly missed some rebound with Logue down back, but I think that can be fixed with a pre-season of training Cox and Walker in more attacking roles.
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Pretty sure Ginnivan doesn't kick 3 on Logue.
 
Kinda feel like it's Logue or Jackson. If Jackson comes, not only does he chew up any scraps of salary cap that might've been left to add to Logue's offer, but he also brings to the team many of the contributions that Logue has recently been making and/or could be asked to make if there is no room for him in the back line.

I don't think there's room in the team for both of them, and if all the love (and money) is currently for Jackson, then I can't see Logue fitting into the preferred 22 except if/when there's injuries to KPDs or Jackson.
 

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ignoramus said:
Kinda feel like it's Logue or Jackson. If Jackson comes, not only does he chew up any scraps of salary cap that might've been left to add to Logue's offer, but he also brings to the team many of the contributions that Logue has recently been making and/or could be asked to make if there is no room for him in the back line.

I don't think there's room in the team for both of them, and if all the love (and money) is currently for Jackson, then I can't see Logue fitting into the preferred 22 except if/when there's injuries to KPDs or Jackson.
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It probably will be one or the other.


IMO Logue was wasted this year. He dominated Curnow at Optus and should be playing back. He's really tall and versatile.

He should be rotating through the backline.

Playing him forward was JL trying to fill a gap because of our lack of quality up forward.

All Freo will be doing is paying Jackson a heap more money to do what Griff does but slightly better. Plus we will lose draft picks on him. It's not a win win situation but a massive hindrance on the next few drafts.
 
King Huskii said:
All Freo will be doing is paying Jackson a heap more money to do what Griff does but slightly better. Plus we will lose draft picks on him. It's not a win win situation but a massive hindrance on the next few drafts.
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This is pretty much how I feel, but with the caveat that a lot of people who know more about football than me (or at least like to think that they know a lot about football) believe that Jackson has a whole heap more upside than Logue and is destined to be a superstar. If that's the case, and if Jackson next year at least matches Logue's contribution this year, then I'm fine with the trade, but right now it feels like we're trading proven (albeit arguably limited) ability for (arguably top tier) potential at a time when we're contending and probably should be consolidating and stabilising what we have.

At any rate, probably the worst outcome is that we get Jackson AND convince Logue to stay by upping the contract offer.
 
ignoramus said:
This is pretty much how I feel, but with the caveat that a lot of people who know more about football than me (or at least like to think that they know a lot about football) believe that Jackson has a whole heap more upside than Logue and is destined to be a superstar. If that's the case, and if Jackson next year at least matches Logue's contribution this year, then I'm fine with the trade, but right now it feels like we're trading proven (albeit arguably limited) ability for (arguably top tier) potential at a time when we're contending and probably should be consolidating and stabilising what we have.

At any rate, probably the worst outcome is that we get Jackson AND convince Logue to stay by upping the contract offer.
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We won't get much for Logue who we used pick 8 for and we will pay a heap in picks and money for Jackson.
 
Any club chasing Logue is chasing him as a best 22 KPD. We just aren't going to pay him as that because he's not in our side.

We don't need him as that other than on interchange. It's unfortunate as I'd prefer Cox as the swingman in the team. As has been mentioned he's only playing forward due to lack/unavailability of talls and an experiment to lock down an opposition KPD.

We at the moment just need to ensure we have a KPD on our list than can back up Cox/Pearce if one of them go down.
 
King Tenz said:
Logue is a key defender though so he isn't in our best 7 defenders because of Cox, Pearce and Ryan.

It's not because of Walker or Young or Clark or Chapman.
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Sort of disagree
Ive always felt he is competing directly with Chapman.

Cox and Moose are needed for their height, Hamling is competing for their spots.
AA Ryan has more footy smarts than Logie and would never be dropped for Logue. Hughes is his cover
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Young is going to be an AA and is already a lock and irreplaceable.
Clark has pace, dare, dash and is a beautiful kick and will kick more goals from half back than Griff will from the goal square. Lock him in. Just wait till hes played 50 games!
19 yr old Walker: jury is out but I think he will be a star. Obviously Capt Hindsight would have selected Willo in his place if the aim was to get closer to the Pies score. Anyway he is competing with Wilson, not Logue.

So we have three choices
1) play Griff back in place of Chappie who either goes to Peel or up on the wing to replace Blacres.

2) Put him forward but hes not a natural forward and Cobblers right, you want to rely on Griff in a GF. Its not good enough anymore to have a role player up forward. We need elite kicking natural forwards.

3) Let him go.

I favour 1) playing him back, moving Chappie to the wing.
We normally have a backman a forward and two mids on the interchange, we wouldnt need the extra backman cover if we did this and so we could select an extra mid or a Jackson type utility instead.

So its Blacres or Logue for me. One we let go. If you think Chappie will ultimately be better than Acres on the wing, then u have a clear pathway forward.

Of course the perfect scenario for the club is for Griff to sign on as a permanent medisub in place of Banners but somehow I dont think Logie will go for that.😁
 
Personally I'd trade Blake Acres as a means to keep Griffin, and putting positional analysis aside, I want him staying because he's a core member of our rebuild, he's the first pick of our rebuild and there is an emotional investment there for him and the other lads. Just feels wrong to be trading this guy, he's a cultural icon for this version of the Fremantle FC.
 
mattis117 said:
Personally I'd trade Blake Acres as a means to keep Griffin, and putting positional analysis aside, I want him staying because he's a core member of our rebuild, he's the first pick of our rebuild and there is an emotional investment there for him and the other lads. Just feels wrong to be trading this guy, he's a cultural icon for this version of the Fremantle FC.
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I agree, but the club has tabled an offer on what they think he is worth & don’t necessarily want to trade him. If we payed the players what they thought they were worth, we’d have 8 players.
 

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If we're offering $500k a year and that's not good enough then it's fair to say it's not the club acting unreasonably.

Presumably it means he's getting offered $600k+ elsewhere, which is the sort of insanity that got Carlton into trouble to start with. Couldn't blame him for taking it TBH.
 
Really hope Logue stays. I watch him on the podcast with David Mundy and he seems to love freo and genuinely gets along with his teammates. Love his work on-field and he always seems to give great effort. Elite athleticism as well.

If Acres is leaving, I’d put Chapman on the wing. I’d then slot Logue back into the backline where he belongs.
I’d play hardball with lobb as he is very much a required player next year. Make dogs pay overs if they want our leading goal kicker.

As for Jackson I’d be willing to offer two firsts, subject to an independent medical report confirming his knee is ok. The money being spoken of is high but the dockers have shown they can develop ruckman really well and I would put my faith in them to develop Jackson to be a premier ruck. The pairing of him and Darcy is formidable.

Losing darcy Tucker is not ideal for depth but hopefully Erasmus and Johnson are given more time. I think each of them are at least comparable to Tucker in terms of output.

Hope we can hang on to Liam Henry. His vision and game sense is elite. Just needs to hit the gym more and lift his intensity (if possible). Could be a handy wingman or half-forward if given more time to develop.
 
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Rob said:
If we're offering $500k a year and that's not good enough then it's fair to say it's not the club acting unreasonably.

Presumably it means he's getting offered $600k+ elsewhere, which is the sort of insanity that got Carlton into trouble to start with. Couldn't blame him for taking it TBH.
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Sums it up nicely. There seems to be a narrative creeping in that the reason why Logue is exploring his options is because of us chasing Jackson when there's clearly a good chunk of the cap available for him.

It's his prerogative if he chooses extra money to endure another rebuild.
 
Alite said:
Excuse the intrusion. Just wondering what is considered fair compensation for Logue?
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Was pick 8…

Now Uncontracted and can walk for nothing to norf via pre-season

So we will prob have to take unders - hopefully the trade is done in ‘good spirits’

Likely anywhere from 19-30. Only hope is norf have been informed on the down-low they’re about to get some priority picks that have to be used on established players (11 + 19 has been rumoured but I can’t see 11 happening..) - and freo go for one of those.

11 freo will start the car for Logue to the airport, 19 will be a break even

Ultimately freo prob getting 50c on the dollar in this trade loss.


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