List Mgmt. GWS Players Contract Status

[dlanod]

Wow. Did you not watch his press conference? Have you not followed his career here?

Giant for life my friend.

Pretty standard these days. Most players will sign on to expire on their FA eligibility because it gives them more options - one of those options is to absolutely re-sign with the club again, and most do.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Just updated Stevie J who is now with us until 2017

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Updated Lobb who has re-signed until 2019

 

[Determinant]

Updated Lobb who has re-signed until 2019

Not enough like buttons for this post

 

[R_Grunter]

Updated Lobb who has re-signed until 2019

Just locked yourselves in for the next two grand final appearances.

 

[Colonial]

Updated Lobb who has re-signed until 2019

Massive signing. Only bloke i was worried about.

Though i said the same thing about Shiel and then Treloar left

 

[ClockworkOrange]

Just locked yourselves in for the next two grand final appearances.

Correction - that's three GFs, Rory locked and loaded until end-2019.

 

[Bokonon]

Massive signing. Only bloke i was worried about.

Though i said the same thing about Shiel and then Treloar left

Barely remember him.

 

[Giant Heart]

Awesome news! He's a star.

 

[_GT_]

This is just awesome news. Made my week.

 

[dlanod]

Patfull should probably be 2017:

Trade Radio: Patfull has triggered a clause for another year, but undecided if he wants to play on

 

[captainMyCaptain]

As been suggested by others our timetable has changed and as of 2017 our cap and list size will move into line with other clubs from next year.

Greater Western Sydney lost access to more than $1.1 million extra salary cap space over the next two years as part of the AFL's new competitive balance policy. The Giants' total player payments have been reduced two years ahead of the schedule laid out when the newest club's draft and salary cap concessions were announced in 2009, contributing to a list squeeze this year.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/...st-squeeze-at-gws-giants-20161006-grwmi8.html

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Patfull should probably be 2017:

Hopefully at our B&F he will make it clear if he is calling it a day or going on next year.

 

[dlanod]

As been suggested by others our timetable has changed and as of 2017 our cap and list size will move into line with other clubs from next year.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/...st-squeeze-at-gws-giants-20161006-grwmi8.html

Except not... What the ****...

"Instead the Giants will go into 2017 with a primary list of 40 players, and have to spread their cap over two more players than the 17 other clubs."

 

[Colonial]

Except not... What the ****...

"Instead the Giants will go into 2017 with a primary list of 40 players, and have to spread their cap over two more players than the 17 other clubs."

Wait what?

So we have 2 more players but the same cap?

**** me drunk you ****ing cheating mexican scum bags.

Play to the rules you give us and you still arent satisfied.

 

[Colonial]

My fav part

he removal of the extra money is not a kneejerk response to the Giants' success this year, but formed part of the new competitive balance policy announced in mid-2014.

If thats true. Why didnt we know about this until the last 2 weeks?
Im sure we would of entered last years trade period differently.

 

[Giant Heart]

My fav part

he removal of the extra money is not a kneejerk response to the Giants' success this year, but formed part of the new competitive balance policy announced in mid-2014.

If thats true. Why didnt we know about this until the last 2 weeks?
Im sure we would of entered last years trade period differently.

Surely more would have been made about this "fact" than some announcement now. I call bullshit! As if it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction.

 

[Bokonon]

Surely more would have been made about this "fact" than some announcement now. I call bullshit! As if it wasn't a knee-jerk reaction.

Yeah
I'm waiting for something on our site, or even the AFL site.

 

[dlanod]

Except not... What the ****...

"Instead the Giants will go into 2017 with a primary list of 40 players, and have to spread their cap over two more players than the 17 other clubs."

Looking at it a bit closer, the normal range is 38-40 so I'm not sure WTF the article writer was implying. I think they might have ****ed it up. Brisbane had 40 this year, for example.

 

[Determinant]

Looking at it a bit closer, the normal range is 38-40 so I'm not sure WTF the article writer was implying. I think they might have stuffed it up. Brisbane had 40 this year, for example.

We will have had to change our list management strategy mid stream, from 42 to 40, plus lose the extra cap, meaning our exposure to higher wages for the two optional spots is likely to be greater than most, given they are not likely to be optional for us

 

[dlanod]

We will have had to change our list management strategy mid stream, from 42 to 40, plus lose the extra cap, meaning our exposure to higher wages for the two optional spots is likely to be greater than most, given they are not likely to be optional for us

That's all right, but it's not "two more players than the 17 other clubs". I wish journalists would know the rules about what they're writing.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Updated Finlayson who according to the B&F coverage is contracted until '17

 

[maanco]

How many Draft picks is GWS expected to take to the draft. Interested because of the changes to the academy points system

 

[Giant Strides]

How many Draft picks is GWS expected to take to the draft. Interested because of the changes to the academy points system

Will be limited by the revised academy & father/son bidding rules, so number of live picks will match the number of list spots open. (The only caveat to this is that the AFL when they announced the new rules made a comment that clubs taking future picks last year wouldn't lose them under the revised rules, but has never explained what they meant. So a little bit of ambiguity.)

Therefore, I expect that GWS will trade or delist between 8 & 10 players, taking us down to between 32 & 34 main list players before draft night, allowing 6 to 8 live picks. The exact number probably depends on how many kids want to leave. That would allow GWS to take an early live pick and 4 to 5 academy kids (possibly Setterfield, Perryman, Macreadie, Sproule & ?). If there's still list spots open then maybe a couple of late picks such as Garthwaite, [EDIT: delete Cumming] or Connor Byrne or similar who cost very little (i.e. aren't bid on, or if so, very late) or current rookies being upgraded onto the main list.

The exact list size seems to be unclear - the recent media reporting indicates GWS has a stipulated size of 40, but other clubs are at 38-40. If GWS is actually the same (38-40) then the last bit of my postulation would be irrelevant.

 

[Determinant]

Will be limited by the revised academy & father/son bidding rules, so number of live picks will match the number of list spots open. (The only caveat to this is that the AFL when they announced the new rules made a comment that clubs taking future picks last year wouldn't lose them under the revised rules, but has never explained what they meant. So a little bit of ambiguity.)

Therefore, I expect that GWS will trade or delist between 8 & 10 players, taking us down to between 32 & 34 main list players before draft night, allowing 6 to 8 live picks. The exact number probably depends on how many kids want to leave. That would allow GWS to take an early live pick and 4 to 5 academy kids (possibly Setterfield, Perryman, Macreadie, Sproule & ?). If there's still list spots open then maybe a couple of late picks such as Garthwaite, Cumming or similar who cost very little (i.e. aren't bid on, or if so, very late) or current rookies being upgraded onto the main list.

The exact list size seems to be unclear - the recent media reporting indicates GWS has a stipulated size of 40, but other clubs are at 38-40. If GWS is actually the same (38-40) then the last bit of my postulation would be irrelevant.

Cummings will go 2nd round for sure