List Mgmt. Hawk's List Management for 2025

[Scrads]

Usually do one of these before the trade period but was caught-up with other stuff this year so here is my post-trade period update! This is what I have at the moment. As you can see, firstly the list is STACKED in terms of talent (which we already knew) but is also pretty close to being completely full as it is. If what I have is correct, then we have 36 primary list, 4 Cat A and 1 Cat B locked in for next year which leaves us with limited options in terms of drafting next month and SSP/MSD in 2025.

If I had to guess, I'd say we are likely to delist-then-rookie one or both of Gunston and/or Breust for flexibility. Regardless, we can only intake a max of 2 players to primary/Cat A list at the moment plus the option of another Cat B player if we want (which I suspect we will re-sign Bennetts with).

As usual, if you spot any mistakes then please let me know

 

[matey]

11 months ago...



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Hutchy didn’t think much about our youth and Lloyd not a big fan of Frenchie and Ward as top 10 picks ……. media experts have as much accountability as our federal and state governments!

 

[burner1]

Would we look at Petracca instead of Reid? Dees are imploding and need a rebuild - Gawn, May etc old and no flag in sight. Petracca is 29 - but same age as Sicily, Barrass etc and likely give us more immediate lift in performance than Reid - he’s a superstar
- and probably at a lot lower trade cost. He’d share the midfield load a lot more at hawks and can spend time up forward to extend his career (where he’d be a handful alongside our smalls)

 

[The Chad and I]

Would we look at Petracca instead of Reid? Dees are imploding and need a rebuild - Gawn, May etc old and no flag in sight. Petracca is 29 - but same age as Sicily, Barrass etc and likely give us more immediate lift in performance than Reid - he’s a superstar
- and probably at a lot lower trade cost. He’d share the midfield load a lot more at hawks and can spend time up forward to extend his career (where he’d be a handful alongside our smalls)

Yes, but cost would be a problem IMO.
Melbourne would want at least a top 10 for him and he's 30 next year.
I think we're beyond the point of needing him as much as we did last season, but he'd pretty much guarantee us a premiership given our current squad and form.

 

[TylerDurden]

Yes, but cost would be a problem IMO.
Melbourne would want at least a top 10 for him and he's 30 next year.
I think we're beyond the point of needing him as much as we did last season, but he'd pretty much guarantee us a premiership given our current squad and form.

Culturally they'd never trade him. I know insiders there who say he IS that club.

 

[Mitchell Madness]

Would we look at Petracca instead of Reid? Dees are imploding and need a rebuild - Gawn, May etc old and no flag in sight. Petracca is 29 - but same age as Sicily, Barrass etc and likely give us more immediate lift in performance than Reid - he’s a superstar
- and probably at a lot lower trade cost. He’d share the midfield load a lot more at hawks and can spend time up forward to extend his career (where he’d be a handful alongside our smalls)

We don't even need Reid. Would we like him, absolutely. We don't need him though.

Our priority needs to be a winger. We are running amon and massimo through the wing, and it's working, but when they're on the wing, it kills our rebound.

 

[nickrebellious]

I'm happy with taking Carlton's pick to the draft, signing a free agent, trading our future first for a gun and trading out a late pick for a gem.

 

[peetoo]

Yes, but cost would be a problem IMO.
Melbourne would want at least a top 10 for him and he's 30 next year.
I think we're beyond the point of needing him as much as we did last season, but he'd pretty much guarantee us a premiership given our current squad and form.

Tainted goods. Very happy with themselves the Dees

 

[nickrebellious]

I thought about it more, we should just throw our picks and cap space at Wanganeen-Milera.

 

[Red4]

I thought about it more, we should just throw our picks and cap space at Wanganeen-Milera.

Think he wants back to SA, saints would probably double our offer and would take alot of capital.

 

[Red4]

Also think Merrett would be a better target than tracc, probably on less dollars and would give the midfield that final dynamic of the kick inside 50.

He’s probably over Essendons failed mini rebuilds and bombers would want more picks before tassie. I’d give up Carltons first + 2nd and maybe they pay a little salary

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Also think Merrett would be a better target than tracc, probably on less dollars and would give the midfield that final dynamic of the kick inside 50.

He’s probably over Essendons failed mini rebuilds and bombers would want more picks before tassie. I’d give up Carltons first + 2nd and maybe they pay a little salary

The thought of the melts from the Dons fans when their former skipper wins a 3 peat at the Hawks is as Bruce would say "Delicious"

 

[MrPremiership]

11 months ago...



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We were horrible that night. Worst I've seen us play under Sam

But seemed to be the catalyst for the reversal of form

 

[MrPremiership]

LDU
Reid
Allan

 

[kirbatron]

Hutchy didn’t think much about our youth and Lloyd not a big fan of Frenchie and Ward as top 10 picks ……. media experts have as much accountability as our federal and state governments!

Lloydy called frenchie an a grade in waiting on Monday on AAA.. Barrett also on board.

all of them were wrong bar korn

 

[Hawked Wings]

Bayley Fritsch anyone?

 

[moginie]

Think he wants back to SA, saints would probably double our offer and would take alot of capital.

I don't think he wants to return per se, but I'm pretty aware that both SA clubs are willing to chuck big money at him.

 

[The Chad and I]

Bayley Fritsch anyone?

absolutely, yes.
He's like a Breust/Gunston hybrid.

 

[eldorado]

We were horrible that night. Worst I've seen us play under Sam

But seemed to be the catalyst for the reversal of form

I like the discussion.

The whole gist was "Hawthorn's list is horrible. Who is to blame?"

Not "Is the list bad?" Not "why are they playing badly? Why are they out of form?"

Nope, nothing to do with form, all agreed that the list is just bad, only question is who is to blame for it

Aren't these campaigners supposed to be experts?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Also think Merrett would be a better target than tracc, probably on less dollars and would give the midfield that final dynamic of the kick inside 50.

He’s probably over Essendons failed mini rebuilds and bombers would want more picks before tassie. I’d give up Carltons first + 2nd and maybe they pay a little salary

We would be doing the Footy God's work in rescuing either of Zerrett or Petracca.

Zerrett had previously reached out to the club to sound out a potential move. Mind you this was a few years ago now, and he ultimately decided to remain loyal.

If anyone saw his interview on one of those talking head shows this week you'd have noticed how mature, articulate and considered he is. He's just a stand up individual.

The cost for either would be at least the equivalent of the Barrass deal though.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

absolutely, yes.
He's like a Breust/Gunston hybrid.

He would probably be lethal with our current delivery into the F50, and would also probably mean Hardwick can remain in defence.

He just doesn’t offer anything outside of lead-mark-goal - which is not necessarily a bad thing, given how good he is at that role.

 

[Red4]

He would probably be lethal with our current delivery into the F50, and would also pribably mean Hardwick can remain in defence.

He just doesn’t offer anything outside of lead-mark-goal - which is not necessarily a bad thing, given how good he is at that role.

Not true, he actually has a great leap and can take a pack mark occasionally, and he’s an awesome crumber and finisher from tough angles.

What he can’t do is one on one on top of his head which is pretty much all that Melbourne do nowadays.

 

[Red4]

We would be doing the Footy God's work in rescuing either of Zerrett or Petracca.

Zerrett had previously reached out to the club to sound out a potential move. Mind you this was a few years ago now, and he ultimately decided to remain loyal.

If anyone saw his interview on one of those talking head shows this week you'd have noticed how mature, articulate and considered he is. He's just a stand up individual.

The cost for either would be at least the equivalent of the Barrass deal though.

Considering he’s their captain and really only good player (A grader at least) they would probably ask for the world. But he’s older than barrass (who had the key defender premium) so I’m really unsure what the cost would be.

I think what they would want and what we would be willing would be a fair ways apart, and he wouldn’t screw them over.
Bit of a pipedream but if im picking a player to tip us over the line for a premiership then he is top5.

 

[SSSSSS]

He would probably be lethal with our current delivery into the F50, and would also pribably mean Hardwick can remain in defence.

He just doesn’t offer anything outside of lead-mark-goal - which is not necessarily a bad thing, given how good he is at that role.

He'd kick 50 goals in a season for us.

 

[I wanna pash Nash]

I thought about it more, we should just throw our picks and cap space at Wanganeen-Milera.

I honestly don't know who I'd take if both Reid and Wanganeen-Milera were available. He is a jet and you'd think a litte cheaper to acquire. He's the kind of player that can play across every line.

 

[unitedhawk2]

I like the discussion.

The whole gist was "Hawthorn's list is horrible. Who is to blame?"

Not "Is the list bad?" Not "why are they playing badly? Why are they out of form?"

Nope, nothing to do with form, all agreed that the list is just bad, only question is who is to blame for it

Aren't these campaigners supposed to be experts?

The key phrase there is 'supposed to be'.

Anyone who dishes out the quality - or complete lack thereof - of output they produce most certainly wouldn't be classified as experts in any other walk of life.

The best piece of AFL analysis I've read in a long time came from a Crows-supporting BF member who posted his thoughts on the Hawks recently. I think it was from https://www.onepercenters.net.au/ which I'm thinking of subscribing to. That analysis was many levels above what we get from the 'mainstream' media.