Hawks set to become the 8th club

[The Blue Baggers]

that's just wrong

is it, why ?

 

[walhawk]

A month later and Hawks now have almost 130K likes.
Overtaken Crows, Tiges and Swans.

 

[The Blue Baggers]

Updated ladder;

Collingwood 253,536
Essendon 249,809

Carlton 157,848
West Coast 152,421
Hawthorn 149,099
Sydney Swans 135,468

Richmond 126,890
Adelaide 116,365
Fremantle 107,315
St Kilda 97,164

Geelong Cats 72,882
Gold Coast Suns 69,941
Brisbane Lions 69,516
Port Adelaide 67,782
Western Bulldogs 60,033
North Melbourne 57,649

Melbourne 38,389
GWS Giants 34,385

 

[gopies1981]

Updated ladder;

Collingwood 253,536
Essendon 249,809

Carlton 157,848
West Coast 152,421
Hawthorn 149,099
Sydney Swans 135,468

Richmond 126,890
Adelaide 116,365
Fremantle 107,315
St Kilda 97,164

Geelong Cats 72,882
Gold Coast Suns 69,941
Brisbane Lions 69,516
Port Adelaide 67,782
Western Bulldogs 60,033
North Melbourne 57,649

Melbourne 38,389
GWS Giants 34,385

That is pretty accurate for total nation wide support from the biggest to the smallest club. I thought the cats would be higher though.

 

[Roddy]

A month later and Hawks now have almost 130K likes.
Overtaken Crows, Tiges and Swans.

Half of those 130,000 must be cats, dogs and goldfish. If we hadn't have won all those Bradbury flags, we'd be lucky to have 10,000.

 

[The Blue Baggers]

Interesting to compare AFL v NRL clubs;

>200k

Broncos 325k
Storm 262k
Collingwood 254k
Essendon 250k

150-199k

Sth Sydney 190k
West Tigers 181k
Parramatta 171k
Carlton 158k
West Coast 152k

125-149k

Hawthorn 149k
Canterbury 147k
Sydney Swans 135k
GC Titans 130k
Richmond 127k

100-124k

NZ Warriors 123k
Adelaide Crows 116k
Fremantle 107k
Manly 104k
Roosters 102k

75k - 99k

St Kilda 97k
St George 88k
Newcastle 85k
Nth Queensland 83k

<75k

Geelong Cats 73k
GC Suns 70k
Brisbane Lions 70k
Cronulla 70k
Canberra 69k
Port Adelaide 68k
Western Bulldogs 60k
Penrith 59k
Nth Melbourne 58k
Melbourne 38k
Giants 34k

 

[walhawk]

Interesting to compare AFL v NRL clubs;

>200k

Broncos 325k
Storm 262k
Collingwood 254k
Essendon 250k

150-199k

Sth Sydney 190k
West Tigers 181k
Parramatta 171k
Carlton 158k
West Coast 152k

125-149k

Hawthorn 149k
Canterbury 147k
Sydney Swans 135k
GC Titans 130k
Richmond 127k

100-124k

NZ Warriors 123k
Adelaide Crows 116k
Fremantle 107k
Manly 104k
Roosters 102k

75k - 99k

St Kilda 97k
St George 88k
Newcastle 85k
Nth Queensland 83k

<75k

Geelong Cats 73k
GC Suns 70k
Brisbane Lions 70k
Cronulla 70k
Canberra 69k
Port Adelaide 68k
Western Bulldogs 60k
Penrith 59k
Nth Melbourne 58k
Melbourne 38k
Giants 34k

What this shows is that in terms of latent interest, RL is just as popular (or more) than AR.
It is just that the level of commitment/involvement is much , much lower.
If RL was half as well run, crowds, membership and revenue would be much closer.

 

[Hoops]

is it, why ?

Because a poll if done correctly i.e random sampling, adequate sample size, useful and concise questions is better than a like on a facebook which only for those that use facebook, which is steered towards a certain demographic. They can be lobbied to like it from the club or websites etc. is worth visiting, no other competition from other websites .
Now lets look at the Roy Morgan poll, first it a reputed polling agency so the sampling would be first class the sample size is a huge 36,875 and a simple question of what AFL team do you support. I'll stick to the Morgan Poll thanks

 

[Hoops]

What this shows is that in terms of latent interest, RL is just as popular (or more) than AR.
It is just that the level of commitment/involvement is much , much lower.
If RL was half as well run, crowds, membership and revenue would be much closer.

Not even close, if you want to use the internet as a guide look at the 187 dedicated AR websites compared to the 126 Rugby League sites and the AR websites rule even on a global scale or you can look at google searches, 'AFL' compared to 'NRL "Rugby League"' does not even come close

 

[walhawk]

Not even close, if you want to use the internet as a guide look at the 187 dedicated AR websites compared to the 126 Rugby League sites and the AR websites rule even on a global scale or you can look at google searches, 'AFL' compared to 'NRL "Rugby League"' does not even come close

Ok, so explain the post I quoted.
Or, google Rugby League and add that up.
Our code is now known (like it or not) as AFL.
Rugby League is know as Rugby League first, then NRL.
My point was that half of the country follows each code, and we should be glad that our game is very well run/marketed compared to RL.

 

[brisbane13]

We're the 5th biggest Victorian club, we get it

no you are not, you need tassie to survice,

 

[The_Wookie]

no you are not, you need tassie to survice,

thats probably not true any more. Its handy, but probably not essential.

 

[Ned_Flanders]

People need to remember you dont follow or like someone/thing on twitter/facebook because you support them or their club

I follow GA Jr, doesnt mean I follow the suns, just that I want to hear his tweets

given the state of half the AFL facebook club feeds as well, half the people "liking" them are only doing to slag off the club in a way even the bay wouldnt respect

there are much better metrics for measuring club support than either facebook or twitter

 

[Hawkk]

no you are not, you need tassie to survice,

Pound for Pound Hawthorn is easily in the top 5 Victorian clubs, by any measure...

 

[brisbane13]

Pound for Pound Hawthorn is easily in the top 5 Victorian clubs, by any measure...

with their run of current success, but are around the mark with geelong

 

[Hawkk]

with their run of current success, but are around the mark with geelong

Well given Geelong have had more success then us in recent seasons that's a somewhat confusing statement.

My post was with respect to revenue, membership, attendance, premiership success and balance sheet

 

[Rob]

Ok, so explain the post I quoted.
Or, google Rugby League and add that up.
Our code is now known (like it or not) as AFL.
Rugby League is know as Rugby League first, then NRL.
My point was that half of the country follows each code, and we should be glad that our game is very well run/marketed compared to RL.

I'm not disputing your point, but it's not that hard to get facebook likes. There are companies that sell you 10,000 likes for not much cash. If you make a concerted effort to advertise on facebook you can also bump up your likes (legitimately, but it makes it a lot easier for people to just click on the button).

It's actually pretty dubious that Collingwood and Essendon always appear to be so close in facebook likes, and so far ahead of any other club. It's as if they monitor each other's and when they fall behind they invest in another 500 likes to bump them up over the other one.

 

[Jim Dixon]

Is there anything more sad than an organisation that literally buys facebook likes?

 

[HawkHeaven]

Is there anything more sad than an organisation that literally buys facebook likes?

Yes one that keeps winning lots of Premierships.

 

[Hoops]

Pound for Pound Hawthorn is easily in the top 5 Victorian clubs, by any measure...

agreed with that and Geelong is 6th Victorian and fighting Freo for 8th overall possibly 9th with the bandwagon support of the Swans

 

[The Blue Baggers]

when this was first posted august last year the hawks were abt to become the 8th club to pass 100k on fb ... in the space of 8 mths they are now close to becoming the 3rd club to pass 200k

> 200k

Collingwood 275k
Essendon 266k

150k - 199k

Hawthorn 194k
Carlton 179k
West Coast 176k
Sydney Swans 153k

100k - 149k

Richmond 137k
Adelaide 136k
Fremantle 126k
St Kilda 104k

<100k

Geelong Cats 96k
Port Adelaide 84k
Brisbane Lions 79k
Gold Coast Suns 76k
North Melbourne 66k
Western Bulldogs 65k
Melbourne 50k
Giants 38k

 

[gopies1981]

when this was first posted august last year the hawks were abt to become the 8th club to pass 100k on fb ... in the space of 8 mths they are now close to becoming the 3rd club to pass 200k

> 200k

Collingwood 275k
Essendon 266k

150k - 199k

Hawthorn 194k
Carlton 179k
West Coast 176k
Sydney Swans 153k

100k - 149k

Richmond 137k
Adelaide 136k
Fremantle 126k
St Kilda 104k

<100k

Geelong Cats 96k
Port Adelaide 84k
Brisbane Lions 79k
Gold Coast Suns 76k
North Melbourne 66k
Western Bulldogs 65k
Melbourne 50k
Giants 38k

So is that basically the order of most popular to least popular in the compitition?

Would be pretty close

 

[Air_Chester]

I'd rather win games of football than fighting to be the king of 4chan

 

[TheHoneyBadger]

So is that basically the order of most popular to least popular in the compitition?

Would be pretty close

I'd say it's not. Plenty of people like the pages of clubs they don't barrack for, pads the numbers for a few clubs.
Not an accurate gauge of support really, either. Think the person that throws them a token like and scarfs up once a year for footy day at work or posts a status if they make the Grand Final.

 

[gopies1981]

I'd say it's not. Plenty of people like the pages of clubs they don't barrack for, pads the numbers for a few clubs.
Not an accurate gauge of support really, either. Think the person that throws them a token like and scarfs up once a year for footy day at work or posts a status if they make the Grand Final.

I think you are wrong!

I think for soft core support it is very accurate. Looks like the hawks have gone well past the tigers and blues.