Correct. For reference below, once the HFC had the report outlining serious allegations they were duty bound by the AFL’s protocol to hand over the report to the AFL integrity unit.
So if the AFL found nothing, do we also get to put our hand out for the disruptions. How absurd
As frustrating as it would be, I hope we all galvanise around club and young team, not walk away completely. They're the ones really being punished here.
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It's the Kangaroos supporter's punishment they have been having wet dreams about it.
Yeah, but we have one of our own with a history of being accurate saying it’s on the table.
it's hard to reconcile my dissonance around this honestly
Yep. Complete bullsh#t.
They can say what they like. It won't stand up in a court of law purely based on cold hard evidence. North aren't suddenly losing because Clarko isn't there. How is it exactly compromising Brisbane? Is it the reason they are 8-3 instead of 11-0?. Utter nonsense that this clutching at straws argument is gaining traction. It's Hawthorn's fault the 3 accused are the ones implicated in this apparently. Nothing about due diligence in finding out exactly what had occured which we did. Utter crap. Expect Gowers to be seeking legal advice as we speak.
A good source told me that Norf are doing everything possible to go Back2Back2Back wooden spooners, I can’t divulge my source but you heard it here first.
In your recap you are inserting an extra step at (2). The welfare check and the report were one and the same.Totally agree and this is why the AFL has no leg to stand on. It's important to remember that this originally was a welfare check on our past First Nations players and staff after the Rioli's aired their grievances.
This is an extract from Gowers statement (article below) the other day:
“It wasn’t commissioned as a report to start, but it was a welfare check on our past First Nations players and staff … it was leaked, and that blew everything up,” Gowers said.
“We simply wanted to check in on the wellbeing of past First Nations players and staff to see if they needed any extra support. The club provided that report to AFL Integrity, not only because we are required to do so, but it was also the appropriate avenue to have the allegations tested and investigated.
“It was also our expectation that this would allow all parties to give their versions of events as Gillon said last night, the leaking of that work had a significant impact – it did not allow for a just and fair process.”
So to recap:
1) It started off as a welfare check that we're assuming didn't have any confidentiality clause inserted.
2) Then after the the welfare checks were completed the club has then commissioned a report into the findings and assuming once again not thinking to add any confidentiality clause.
3) At this stage you'd assume the club has informed the players / partners that aired their grievances in the welfare check that the club is following protocol and handing the findings over to AFL.
4) Hearing this the players / partners go to the media more than likely not being confident in the AFL. With no confidentiality clause applied the players/ partners are exempt of being charged of anything if this goes to court.
If the the AFL are going to sanction us financially for not inserting a confidentiality clause when it transitioned from a welfare check to a commissioned report then so be it but there's no way in hell that the sanction can be for draft picks. When other clubs have brought the game into dispute for far worse but haven't had draft pick sanctions I find that very hard to believe and I would be absolutely disgusted if the league even considered it. At the first hint of the league doing so then I'd fully expect the club to lawyer up and take them to court.
If the AFL want to angry at anyone then it is the players / partners for taking the story to the media. The problem the AFL has is it cannot be seen to be angry at them because the perception it will give that the players / partners are lying. So yeah we'll blame the HFC instead.
Hawks president Andy Gowers says club shouldn’t be sanctioned for racism investigation
‘Blew everything up’: Hawks president grilled over racism probe amid ‘leak’ claimwww.foxsports.com.au
I wonder if there was an element of this at play with the sim card swap.
Lol Norf
To be fair he did say 'on the table' which is pretty much what Gil has alluded to by leaving the door open for sanctions against us
PM , you normally post well. However, saying 'confirm/definitely'...then follow up with 'what I've heard' is misleading at best.
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