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Very good game yesterday! Showed great heart and as a neutral fan it was fun to watch how well you played as a team! If you can maintain that form top 4 is certainly very possible.

Very much looking forward to ANZAC Day! Will be a great contest!
 
SirJimi05 said:
We had about 40 less interchange rotations on the day. Massive advantage for Carlton. I was paying attention to players coming on and off and in the last qtr some of our mids could hardly run. Stanton and Watson looked like they wouldn't be able to go back on. Ticker!

Spike McVeigh was just on the footy show and he said that our midfielders were a lot more physically spent than under normal circumstances.

Apparently Spike played out the game with a broken hand and there are a few more injuries to come out. :eek:
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Yep, not to mention that the rucks didn't get a chance to be subbed off-- they just rotated at FF. Also, at least one time Hurley had to start on the ball while a mid rested at FF. Carlton supporters downplaying the ramifications of our injuries are delusional.
 

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Valve Bounce said:
This is Carlton BS - it was never 3 as opposed to 2. We had two guys on and off the bench while Carlton had three running on and off the bench while resting their fourth, giving them a fresh player during the third quarter substitute.

I think Sir Jim's stats above says it all.
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You misinterpreted my post. What I'm trying to say is for those who are saying we were one man down, not two, are using the example from previous years where a team lost a player and it became 3 off the bench as opposed to 4 off the bench and the 3 bench team had no trouble running out the game and that the difference one man makes is marginal. I'm saying that now, with the sub rule, losing one man and bringing the bench down to 2 is much more costly than losing one man last year when the bench was 4. I'm bad at trying to explain this, but basically...

The advantage a team has when they have 4 on the bench when the opposition has 3, is much less than the advantage a team gains when they have 3 on the bench + a sub when the opposition has 2 on the bench without a sub.
 
When we were down by a point while Carlton was playing keepings off I was thinking how injust it would be if we lost given how well we'd played under the circumstances. I was almost in a state of denial. Just didn't seem right.

Tremendous effort. So proud.
 
kelvin_sheedy said:
and the most telling stat..

In the last we had it in our forward half for 10 minutes more than Carlton. We kicked 4.5 and they kicked 5.0.

With 2 men down, they had a fresh player we were still owning the ball.
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This for mine. That said, when they did break the lines our blokes were going up and down on the spot.

Were we "didn't win it" was the second quarter - they dominated and this was before the full effect of the lack of rotations took it's toll.
 
laminex said:
Maybe, but you guys are overplaying it. It was not like you guys were shot handcuffed and r*ped. You lost a player in total. 1 player not 2, 1.
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That is absolute complete baloney.

Due to our first ACL injury (Winderlich), we were forced to use our Sub at the 15 minute mark of the first quarter (Prismall). We didn't have the choice or luxury of using our fresh sub in the second half like Carlton did with Andrew Walker when our players (who had nearly 30 less bench rotations than Carlton) were dead on their feet and needed a spark. Matters were also compounded five minutes later when Dempsey did his knee.

Carlton had pretty much everything go their way all day. Essendon had serious injury concerns that severely disadvantaged us as the game went on, a bad run with the umpires, 2 less days break than Carlton and you muppets still couldn't get the full four points. So don't be the typical delusional Carlton supporter and come to our board and stress otherwise but you clearly have no idea. You can also consider yourself fortunate the siren went when it did, we had Melksham free in the middle and a couple of forwards free further downfield when their Carlton opponents were still scrambling to their feet on the outer wing.
 
laminex said:
Maybe, but you guys are overplaying it. It was not like you guys were shot handcuffed and r*ped. You lost a player in total. 1 player not 2, 1.
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And you are underplaying it. We lost two players, used our sub in the first quarter, were then back down a man again whilst carlton had the luxury of bringing a fresh sub on at 3/4 time.
 
kelvin_sheedy said:
How do you work out completely outplayed in the midfield. :confused:

We led the clearances and inside 50's with 40 less rotations.
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I stand by my opinion.

watson was good
Stanton was solid
Hocking was solid
Zaharakis was good
howlett was solid
prismall was awful
melksham struggled
Bellchambers was average


Our defence was very strong.
 

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Seriously, great move to get ex-players on the coaching panel who never, never threw in the towel as players no matter the state of a game. Try eyeballing any of that coaching panel after a game where you haven't given 100% for the duration.

They are only asking of our guys what they expected out of themselves for their entire careers. Our boys do not have to look far for inspiration, and after a performance like that and hopefully a few more, the coaching panel can look to the boys for inspiration also.
 
Darealrath said:
When we were down by a point while Carlton was playing keepings off I was thinking how injust it would be if we lost given how well we'd played under the circumstances. I was almost in a state of denial. Just didn't seem right.

Tremendous effort. So proud.
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Completely agree.

I was sitting there frothing at the mouth, in utter denial that Carlton were going to win. It was a horrible feeling, waiting for that siren, knowing full well we were the better side, and that they'd scamper away with a win. What's worse is deluded muppets like the guy in this thread, naively believing they deserved to win.

When we got that point and I knew the siren was due, I could breathe again.

Have never been so relieved or happy with a draw.
 
Pweter said:
Seriously, great move to get ex-players on the coaching panel who never, never threw in the towel as players no matter the state of a game. Try eyeballing any of that coaching panel after a game where you haven't given 100% for the duration.

They are only asking of our guys what they expected out of themselves for their entire careers. Our boys do not have to look far for inspiration, and after a performance like that and hopefully a few more, the coaching panel can look to the boys for inspiration also.
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Great post. :thumbsu:
 
Pweter said:
Seriously, great move to get ex-players on the coaching panel who never, never threw in the towel as players no matter the state of a game. Try eyeballing any of that coaching panel after a game where you haven't given 100% for the duration.

They are only asking of our guys what they expected out of themselves for their entire careers. Our boys do not have to look far for inspiration, and after a performance like that and hopefully a few more, the coaching panel can look to the boys for inspiration also.
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+1, great post for a newbie! :thumbsu:
 
Pweter said:
Seriously, great move to get ex-players on the coaching panel who never, never threw in the towel as players no matter the state of a game. Try eyeballing any of that coaching panel after a game where you haven't given 100% for the duration.

They are only asking of our guys what they expected out of themselves for their entire careers. Our boys do not have to look far for inspiration, and after a performance like that and hopefully a few more, the coaching panel can look to the boys for inspiration also.
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So true... five Premiership players in Hird, Thompson, Wellman, Goodwin and Wallis. And Brendan McCartney, who Hirdy says is the best coach he's ever seen.
 

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