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I just don't like moving on players that can do things that the standard footballer can't. The goal he kicked off a step that went through about post high in the prelim last year is a rare talent.

All he needs is consistency, which needs a consistent position. I wonder if there was ever any thought of him running on the ball and then changing up forward?
 
Vader said:
Sorry, but that's laughable. Gunston is 5x the player that Hendo will ever be. Hendo is a largely unfulfilled talent, who had never shown much at AFL level until moved to the easiest position on the ground. Gunston is younger and better... unfortunately.
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Vader seriously pi..... off. You are always making big statements. The players are nothing alike. Hendo is one player I would always pick in my team. He has x factor, lateral movement, closing speed and breakaway speed. With danger the most versatile player in our side. A muuuuussssst keeeep and I don't think anyone in the know would be looking to trade the guy especially with our lack of speed.

Too many people on here talk rubbish. Everyone thinks we have to give up so much for Polec who has done nothing in three years in a weak side yet we got6 pick 24 for Gunston who proved himself very capable in three years. If Gunston went 24 the Polec is no more than pick in the 30's based on that or it is another demonstration that Adelaide always gets shafted in trade period
 
Wayne's-World said:
You above all have preached patience .....IMO Henderson has shown it in SANFL with he spectacular marks

But when it came to AFL he didn't have the same confidence ...and every body hit seemed to knock him flat

I am seeing now a more physical & confident Henderson .....on the cusp

Why oh why to people prefer to speculate on a draft pick to release someone of Hendersons skillsets & flexibility ......just don't get it
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Hendo has been tried in many positions and found wanting - he's failed on the wing, on the forward flank and as 3rd tall. Playing him as loose man in defence was pretty much the last port in the storm.

He has yet to convince me that he'll ever put it together. He has all the tools, but can he make them gel?

That said, I'd rather have him in the team than a speculative draft pick.
 

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footy4ever said:
yeah nah. His transition to footy has taken a while but i think he'll be an exceptional player. So what if he's played the easiest position on the ground, he has the speed and skills to play it to perfection. Crows need his talent and pace. oh, and all the naysayers...aren't you tired of yourselves yet?
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He has all the tools - no argument there. The problem is that he's never put it all together and made the selectors pick him consistently. After 56 games he's still spending almost as much time in the SANFL as he is in the AFL. By 50 games he should have cemented himself as a regular member of our best 22, not someone we go to when injuries eliminate the better players from the equation (in this case, Reilly).

What is it going to take for him to put it all together? He has the tools - he's the perfect height, has pace and talent, yet for all that he's still a player on the fringe, frequently being dumped back to the SANFL.
 
smoovy said:
I just don't like moving on players that can do things that the standard footballer can't. The goal he kicked off a step that went through about post high in the prelim last year is a rare talent.

All he needs is consistency, which needs a consistent position. I wonder if there was ever any thought of him running on the ball and then changing up forward?
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But when is he going to start showing some consistency? He's been on our list now for 4 years, playing 56 games and he still has all the consistency of week old porridge.
 
Godallblighty said:
....where he outperformed the player you say is first 22 all day every day.
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Difference being that Reilly wasn't allowed to roam around like an unregistered dog, because the opposition coaches know how good he is when allowed freedom to move. They didn't bother paying Hendo the same respect, because he's nowhere near as damaging and nowhere near as consistent.

** Reilly is another victim of the Sando Stink, who should be expected to return to form in 2014.
 
CrowCro said:
Vader seriously pi..... off. You are always making big statements. The players are nothing alike. Hendo is one player I would always pick in my team. He has x factor, lateral movement, closing speed and breakaway speed. With danger the most versatile player in our side. A muuuuussssst keeeep and I don't think anyone in the know would be looking to trade the guy especially with our lack of speed.
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I agree that he has all of those tools, which is what makes him such a massive disappointment. With the weapons at his command he should be one of the first players selected every week and one of the best players in our team. Unfortunately, he's not one of the best players in our team and he's not one of the first selected each week. He's a fringe player, who is still playing almost half the season in the SANFL because he can't put it together consistently at the senior level. That's the problem. The fact that he has so many weapons at his command means that he has real trade value. The fact that he's so inconsistent and has never put it together at senior level means that he's not a must keep player.
 
Vader said:
But when is he going to start showing some consistency? He's been on our list now for 4 years, playing 56 games and he still has all the consistency of week old porridge.
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I mentioned a consistent position. You talked about Gunston being 5x better, you're not afraid of the odd hyperbole. He may be better, but it is not 5x. At least he knows what his job is, thats to kick goals.
 
Elite Crow said:
If Hendo plans on going do it now while we can possibly get more for him than we did for Tippett, Gunston and Maric
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We did OK with the Gunston trade.

Hated watching him playing well today.
 
CrowCro said:
Vader seriously pi..... off. You are always making big statements. The players are nothing alike. Hendo is one player I would always pick in my team. He has x factor, lateral movement, closing speed and breakaway speed. With danger the most versatile player in our side. A muuuuussssst keeeep and I don't think anyone in the know would be looking to trade the guy especially with our lack of speed.

Too many people on here talk rubbish. Everyone thinks we have to give up so much for Polec who has done nothing in three years in a weak side yet we got6 pick 24 for Gunston who proved himself very capable in three years. If Gunston went 24 the Polec is no more than pick in the 30's based on that or it is another demonstration that Adelaide always gets shafted in trade period
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this is about right.

but we dont always get shafted...

we traded for many of our 97/98 premiership players, most famously d. jarman and andrew mcleod

although we did have to give up chris groom for mcleod
 

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Vader said:
But when is he going to start showing some consistency? He's been on our list now for 4 years, playing 56 games and he still has all the consistency of week old porridge.
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When? Most likely, right about now. He's a basketball convert with tons of physical attributes who's been developed very steadily in his early years. In that time, he's shown plenty, not least in his willingness to adjust to the physicality of the game. He's a great kick with pace to burn and an attacking attitude. We've done all the hard work with him and it will be the bitterest of pills to watch some other team reap the value of that. All the more so, because we are very unlikely to get value for him.
 
Drugs Are Bad Mackay? said:
So did Crouch which is only slightly more irrelevant than Grigg.

If a supposedly established player gets picked in the SANFL it's a far bigger deal. If a form dip is enough for them to be discarded then their base line isn't that special to begin with.
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I agree for the most part although we used Hendo in very different roles this year which no doubt wouldn't have helped. He wasn't the attacking defender like he was in the final 6 games at the start of the season (Reilly had that position). We then tried swinging him forward before he got injured then was left in the SANFL for some time.

But what we saw in those final 6 games was potentially a position we can actually keep him in, thus have him train in that position and keep him in that role week in week out where he can build his consistency etc.

Basically, if we could get the Hendo of the final 6 rounds for all of next year and going forwards I think we'd all want him to stay. However, there's every chance that he timed that form perfectly for us, he's at his very highest value (trade wise) and we've got the chance to cash in now before he reverts back to his hit and miss games.As I mentioned in the another thread, no idea what way I'm leaning as he's exactly the player we need in our side, but we've got no guarantee he'll continue the sort of form he showed at the end of last season for the rest of his career.
 
Mike Smyth said:
What a ridiculous comment. Unless we got a top 10 draft pick the Gunston trade us yet another failure from the club that revels in mediocrity.
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We couldn't win that trade. An uncontracted player who chose a club he wanted to go to really hurt our bargaining power. At least we made the most out of what we got for him.
 
dylan123 said:
We couldn't win that trade. An uncontracted player who chose a club he wanted to go to really hurt our bargaining power. At least we made the most out of what we got for him.
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BS if we had any strength as a club we would have sent him to the pre season draft and he would playing for Melbiurne. Instead we rolled over as the weak club we are and gifted him to the club of his choice...
 
Mike Smyth said:
BS if we had any strength as a club we would have sent him to the pre season draft and he would playing for Melbiurne. Instead we rolled over as the weak club we are and gifted him to the club of his choice...
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And how exactly would have that been a win for us compared to what we did?

Give Gunston away for nothing rather then do the best we could which has resulted in both Kerridge and Grigg coming onto our list (CEY as well I believe)?

I know which option I like the look of better.
 
dylan123 said:
We couldn't win that trade. An uncontracted player who chose a club he wanted to go to really hurt our bargaining power. At least we made the most out of what we got for him.
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Hence why I compared him to Gunston. If he's going to go home do it now why we have the upper hand and don't get bent over
 
dylan123 said:
And how exactly would have that been a win for us compared to what we did?

Give Gunston away for nothing rather then do the best we could which has resulted in both Kerridge and Grigg coming onto our list (CEY as well I believe)?

I know which option I like the look of better.
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Even worse than I thought..
 
Mike Smyth said:
What a ridiculous comment. Unless we got a top 10 draft pick the Gunston trade us yet another failure from the club that revels in mediocrity.
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AFC had little option but to trade Gunston to the Hawks as he had walked out of the club.

In the circumstances they did well to get some decent picks that landed both Kerridge & Grigg.

Compare this to what we got for the other players in the original quote, AFC did OK.

Certainly far from AFC worse or "ridiculous" trade, particularly when Hawks had the upper hand.
 
Mike Smyth said:
BS if we had any strength as a club we would have sent him to the pre season draft and he would playing for Melbiurne. Instead we rolled over as the weak club we are and gifted him to the club of his choice...
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Excellent plan. Instead of getting Kerridge, Grigg and Jenkins we should have gotten nothing instead.

But we sure would have had the last laugh when he went to Melbourne! Unless of course he priced himself out of the market and ended up at Hawthorn anyway, while allowing them to use pick 24 to select an extra player.


It's far too easy to say "we have to win every single situation or else we're a weak club", but it doesn't work that way in reality.
 

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