Here we go again - FFA consider bidding for 2034 World Cup

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Wasn't sure where to put this - or if it's already posted. Mods feel free to move or delete if need be.

Expect the argy-bargy over stadiums to start up again.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/v...t/news-story/617ae20f2e7f5f6f5afedea27d40c576

How Victoria could score the ultimate goal in global sport​

The MCG could be in line to host the world’s biggest individual sporting event, as Football Federation Australia confirmed a 2034 World Cup bid is on the cards.

Matt Johnston
https://twitter.com/Media_Matt
February 17, 2022 - 7:46AM

The MCG could be in line to host the world’s biggest individual sporting event, with Australia poised to chase the 2034 FIFA World Cup.
Football Federation Australia has confirmed a bid to secure the massive event next decade is on the cards, with the women’s tournament being hosted here next year a vital “springboard” for showcasing the game Down Under.

The FFA said the bid was still at an “embryonic stage”, but former Socceroos striker Archie Thompson said Melbourne would be a great city to host games – and the final – given its multicultural status.

The pursuit of a top-tier global sporting event to rival Brisbane’s 2032 Olympic Games comes after concerns were raised about whether the Commonwealth Games should be a priority event for Victoria.

Premier Daniel Andrews revealed on Wednesday the state would pitch a bid for the 2026 Games and was backed by the opposition. But others have questioned the cost – which Mr Andrews described as an “investment” in the economy – with former premier Jeff Kennett lashing the bid as an “abject waste of money”.

Attention will soon shift to the country’s hosting duties for the women’s soccer World Cup next year, which is being shared with New Zealand. Melbourne has missed out on securing any of the finals.

The Victorian government would need to be far more aggressive to secure the final for the MCG over Sydney if a men’s tournament bid is successful.

Sporting chiefs believe the women’s tournament would be the perfect opportunity to aim high and launch a push for the men’s World Cup in 2034.

An FFA spokesman said a bid was part of its long-term aspirations.

“It would be a natural progression on the back of a successful women’s World Cup on our shores in 2023,” he said.

Thompson, who was capped 50 times for Australia in a glittering career and is a Melbourne Victory ambassador, said Melbourne would be the perfect location for games.

“I’m excited about the World Cup for women and that, I am guessing, will showcase our game and show what it means for our country,” he said.

“That would be a launching pad for those decisions and whether we bid for the World Cup, and why not?

“We are a multicultural city and we love the game.”

The push for Victoria to get behind that event, which is watched by hundreds of millions of people around the world and delivers billions of dollars in benefits, comes as the state government enters exclusive bidding rights for the Commonwealth Games.

Mr Kennett said a lot had changed since 2006 when Melbourne last hosted the Games, pointing to the fact the host’s role had sat empty since Durban, in South Africa, was stripped of the event in 2017 and Birmingham, in the UK, was fast-tracked to host the 2022 Games.

“The very fact that no city put its hand up to host is a signal from the Commonwealth and the athletic community that this competition is irrelevant,” he said. “This is not an investment that makes any sense whatsoever.”

Mr Kennett has called for the money to be spent on community sport and a “Victoria Games” held to prepare athletes for the Olympics and world championships.

Bill Lang, the executive director of Small Business Australia, said without a rigorous cost-benefit analysis showing “clear” dividends, the bid should be scrapped.

He said Commonwealth Games organisers should be paying a share of the hosting costs, given no one had put their hand up to host the event so far.

“It could be a very positive thing if the Commonwealth Games paid for it to be held in Victoria,” he said.

Gold Coast Mayor Tom Tate said lessons from his home city’s Games in 2018 should be heeded, and recommended a volunteer base be built now.

“Don’t overcapitalise,” he said. “Refurbishing facilities and bringing in temporary grandstands is a better long-term investment than multimillion-dollar new infrastructure.

“Regionally, Victoria has some exceptional sports and festival infrastructure.

“Sweat the asset, as the taxpayer does not want a post-Games legacy bill.’
 
.....and?

We all saw the restrictions the World Cup seeks to place on other professional sports.
Any discussion around a bid involving Australian taxpayers MUST have potential issues for other sports/venues addressed transparently before any discussions are held around public funding.

A World Cup would be great for our economy, but it must be open & transparent.

To mention it with the Commonwealth Games to be held in regional Victoria suggests it might be a 'beat up'.
 

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There is a bit of a trend of the Olympics and World Cup following each other around (94/96, 14/16, 26/28) so it wouldn't surprise me - and selfishly, it would be amazing to have the once in a lifetime event here.
 
IT IS the biggest sporting event in the world and no matter what we think here it's just a matter of time before it's played here.

Lets hope we are fair dinkum next time. Before we waste effort on dreaming we need a very basic plan on how we can stage the event - a bunch of enthusiasts ignoring reality is never going to work when we are talking about a sport that is essentially Euro controlled.
 
Lets hope we are fair dinkum next time. Before we waste effort on dreaming we need a very basic plan on how we can stage the event - a bunch of enthusiasts ignoring reality is never going to work when we are talking about a sport that is essentially Euro controlled.
It could be easily staged, but the problem is the fifa mandate of 60k seat clean stadiums.
 
The only realistic countries prepared to bid for it would us and the poms, and they hosted it in 1966, so at this stage i would guess we would be favourites.
 
It could be easily staged, but the problem is the fifa mandate of 60k seat clean stadiums.

Its not that simple, e.g it involves limits on other sports, effectively closing them down.
I'm sure its well known in the soccer world & last time the proponents effectively chose to ignore them for their own benefit.
 
Soccer in this country is in a diabolical state.

A shocking national competition as well as the fact we wont make this years world cup is causing big issues.

Would be a massive long shot to get a world cup in the next 20 years.

Stadiums also a big concern. Cant use MCG, Optus or Adelaide oval as per FIFA requirements.
 
Soccer in this country is in a diabolical state.

A shocking national competition as well as the fact we wont make this years world cup is causing big issues.

Would be a massive long shot to get a world cup in the next 20 years.

Stadiums also a big concern. Cant use MCG, Optus or Adelaide oval as per FIFA requirements.
IF the soccer world cup was come here it would be a huge boost to soccer here without a doubt and money talks as regards the stadiums.
Don't rule nothing out as regards stadium use
 

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IF the soccer world cup was come here it would be a huge boost to soccer here without a doubt and money talks as regards the stadiums.
Don't rule nothing out as regards stadium use

Yes address the stadium use before any bid, not after, & seek to impose it.
 
You reckon? I can think of at least 1 in Asia that has a penchant for sportswashing.
Zero chance of China getting it. They won't be able to control soccer fans from overseas like the do other sports fans.
Even this years soccer world cup will have areas where people can drink alcohol and it's a Muslim country
 
Zero chance of China getting it. They won't be able to control soccer fans from overseas like the do other sports fans.
Even this years soccer world cup will have areas where people can drink alcohol and it's a Muslim country
If China want it, they will get it. Or at least they will get the support of most of Asia. And if we can't even get the support of our own confederation, our chances are nought.
 
The womens world cup is on next year, and supposedly it will be a springboard for a bid for the mens world cup 12 years later.
And yet so far, not sure if a single dollar has been spent in terms of new stadiums, etc.
So not sure that's going to be such a great springboard.
Anyway, from 2026 onwards, we're talking about 48 nations competing in the world cup, that's a lot of nations, a lot of teams, a lot of officials, a lot of hangers on.
If you said to me that England, China and Australia are chasing that 2034 WC, I would say that Australia would be a long, long, long way behind in most respects.
 
If FIFA want the soccer world cup final held at the MCG as part of our bid that will be in their bid, along with other stadiums here.

Not as I understand it last time.
It can be done, MUST be done.

No different to the rules the WC decision makers seek to impose on other sports, UPFRONT.
Clean up all the issues that were papered over last time. Expecting other professional sports to take a hit on some timetable the WC demands is both unrealistic & disrespectful.

I'd love to see Aus get the WC, just be upfront about it, well before any bid is lodged, $1 of FED taxpayer funds are spent.
 
Biggest or 2nd biggest, they all have one thing in common, they all exaggerate the economic benefit of hosting these mega-events.
In the case of the soccer world cup, the only winner is FIFA, both the organisation as a whole and each individual committee member, who never miss out on an opportunity to line their own pockets.
 
Biggest or 2nd biggest, they all have one thing in common, they all exaggerate the economic benefit of hosting these mega-events.
In the case of the soccer world cup, the only winner is FIFA, both the organisation as a whole and each individual committee member, who never miss out on an opportunity to line their own pockets.

FIFA are in 'the box seat' because of the tourism & the fact that it requires less capital spending.

IF we arent prepared for the handouts to win the bid, we shouldnt be a starter - there should be a cross party committee to sign off on the budget & all expenditure signed off by an independent auditor.
 
Biggest or 2nd biggest, they all have one thing in common, they all exaggerate the economic benefit of hosting these mega-events.
In the case of the soccer world cup, the only winner is FIFA, both the organisation as a whole and each individual committee member, who never miss out on an opportunity to line their own pockets.
Don't all sport exaggerate the economic benefit of hosting mega events?
 

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