Highest SC:DT ratios

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We all know there are players like Goddard, Judd, Gilbee etc who traditionally do much better in Supercoach than DT. But what are the most extreme examples of this? I was looking at Dustin Fletcher's career and saw these amazing stats from 2005:

DT Average - 58.3
SC Average - 107.4

That's across 17 matches, so a pretty decent sample. Anyone else have similar stats?
 
Don't have the numbers on me but the average SC/DT ratio per player per game will be decreasing over time.

Each game has 3300 SuperCoach points up for grabs (constant) but Dream Team points will surely be increasing year on year due to more possessions.
 

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spud_jjj said:
Can someone explain the importance of DT:SC ratios to me, apart from being an 'interesting' stat?
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Basically they indicate the players who, more often than not, can still score relatively strongly from fewer touches.

For example, Gilbee or Dal Santo have been SuperCoach specialists over the journey and as such they have had high SC/DT ratios. They could have quiet games yet still easily score over 100.
 
SJ said:
Basically they indicate the players who, more often than not, can still score relatively strongly from fewer touches.

For example, Gilbee or Dal Santo have been SuperCoach specialists over the journey and as such they have had high SC/DT ratios. They could have quiet games yet still easily score over 100.
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Would it also be fair to say that if a player is generally around 15-20 SC points above his DT score, then if he was to get an increase in possessions (therefore an increase in DT), then he'd be a good candidate to make the jump from mid-level to definite keeper.

A big example would be someone like Hurn.
Hurn averaged 85 SC and 66 DT.
If he can gather another 3 kicks, 1 handball and a tackle (whether that is due to increase midfield time or just being more consistent from agme to game), that will translate to an extra 15 DT which could account to an extra 20 SC points making him a potential 105 SC.
 

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SJ said:
Johncock has always been a good SuperCoacher, a few years ago he was elite.
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Form wise last year Johncock was probably close to our best player, it was just the fact that he only played 14ish games that let hime down. If he gave up the smokes & could get through a full season I'ld consider starting him in 2011 (even with the bye in round 2)
 
spud_jjj said:
Would definintely be a unique pick and could have a great year.

Probably won't pick him as a premium DEF starter (Goddard, Broughton, Deledio), but definintely on the cards as an upgrade later in the year.
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Depends on how much you see him rising I will most likely have similar premium DEF's in Goddard, Broughton & Hurn as tentative picks.
 
Big Sledge #32 said:
Depends on how much you see him rising I will most likely have similar premium DEF's in Goddard, Broughton & Hurn as tentative picks.
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Also depends on how Adelaide's 2011 pans out.

Really hope they can recapture their 2009 form, as I think they're one of the better teams to watch when up and firing.

Just on a side note, is Otten a defininte starter for you next year Sledge? (is for me :))
 
spud_jjj said:
Also depends on how Adelaide's 2011 pans out.

Really hope they can recapture their 2009 form, as I think they're one of the better teams to watch when up and firing.

Just on a side note, is Otten a definite starter for you next year Sledge? (is for me :))
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It's a good point you raise as Adelaide is one of the mixed bags for next year on paper their outs look crippling with Goodwin, McLeod, Edwards, Burton, Bock & Hentschel all gone taking well over 1000 games experience with them. But when you look closer most of them have been gone from the second half of the year bar Goodwin (last game in round 16) & Bock (last game round 20 IIRC). So we know what it's like to play without them and that was this year. Very inconsistent but in most supporters eyes, filled with potential.

In the second half of the season we saw the emergence of players like Sloane, Davis, Jaensch & Henderson (2 of which came off of the rookie list) so we have a little bit of talent to burn. We also knocked off some classy opponents last season (Geelong, St Kilda & Fremantle when they were outstanding mid year, whilst coming within 9 & 3 points of the Bulldogs & Collingwood. But then we went around & lost to teams like Port (twice) & Richmond after these big wins.

Next season I can see us turning it around to a solid 5-6th placed team so long as our injury list doesn't get as stupidly long as this years did. We have a lot of players who should improve on their 2010's which should make them a dream for potential supercoachers like yourself. There is Vince, Porplyzia, Walker, Tippett, Dangerfield & Johncock who all should improve their scoring. Then the players which missed most of 2010 in Knights and the aforementioned Otten. Knights absence this season was underestimated by everyone including the club it seemed. It's been suggested that he is our most important player in terms of structure essentially playing the role of a smaller CHF from the FF and using that deadly left foot to kick over the zone to either a) slot the goal himself or b) Tippett one on one in the goal square. A fully fit Knights will be a massive difference to Adelaide in 2011 & he is my first lock. Otten is probably my second, by all reports he is progressing well & is set to do a full preseason with the boys which will be great. He was terrific in 2009 & his run will help make up for Bock's defection (along with the emergence of Davis). I expect his first few games to be merely 'sighter' games as he gets the feel for it back again, with a possibility of him being used as the sub or possibly being subbed himself. After that though I expect him to flourish to an 80+ average from say round 4 onwards. :thumbsu:

The key is going to be picking the players to break out/return to form in 2011 for me that's Knights & Otten so they will be in my side. Danger & Vince offer value so they amongst half of the Adelaide side are in my 'maybe' pile.

Hope that goes someway to answering the side note.
 
spud_jjj said:
Yeah, great response :thumbsu: Cheers for the feedback.

All things being equal, Otten is a lock for me in 2011, while Knights is someone I will give a lot of consideration to.

Injury history is a worry though :(

(still, would've loved him at Punt Rd!) :D
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I'm in a similar mindset, Otten was a lock as soon as he went down this year.

Knights is interesting as I have always felt he has the capacity to average close to a 100 but his average has been closer to the 85 mark. Now that his average/starting prce is low it's much more tempting to jump on. Monitoring him over the preseason will be essential, apparently he has started well.

Adelaide has a lot of supporters who go to pre season trainings and most of are kind enough to post training reports on our board. Most of these are quality posts and are well worth checking out if you have your eye on a Crows player but aren't quite sure. I would say the Adelaide boards pre season reports are amongst the best on big footy.
 
Big Sledge #32 said:
Danger & Vince offer value so they amongst half of the Adelaide side are in my 'maybe' pile.
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I was one of many burnt by Vince last season. I'd like to know why (IYO) Vince is only in your 'maybe' pile. I would have thought he was a player to watch this year. Surely he can recapture some solid point scoring form in 2011?

regards,

REB
 
spud_jjj said:
Cheers man.

Never saw the fascination with it, but now, it would be great to get (make) a list.



*makes note to self* :D
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Pods is another example. Not a great DT pick because he doesn't have that many touches, but contested marks are great for SC so frequently cracks the SC ton.

Varcoe is similar, not a great DT option because he doesn't get lots of it, but his great disposal efficiency and score involvements are good for SC.
 
Focal#32 said:
Would it also be fair to say that if a player is generally around 15-20 SC points above his DT score, then if he was to get an increase in possessions (therefore an increase in DT), then he'd be a good candidate to make the jump from mid-level to definite keeper.

A big example would be someone like Hurn.
Hurn averaged 85 SC and 66 DT.
If he can gather another 3 kicks, 1 handball and a tackle (whether that is due to increase midfield time or just being more consistent from agme to game), that will translate to an extra 15 DT which could account to an extra 20 SC points making him a potential 105 SC.
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Hurn's a great example.

Epic long boot is such an SC asset.

Shame he was injured so much in 2010.

Drummond's the other one I wish I had the balls to pick, but he has the same durability issues.
 
spud_jjj said:
Tell me about it :rolleyes:

Want to pick him again this year, as I think he can rise above Brisbane's inevitable poor year.

Brisbane are pretty woeful though...
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Never again. He has burnt me the last 2 years and I'm putting him in a pile with Higgins and D Wells.
 
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