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Now people are catching on!Which would mean more money for those authorities who own the grounds when football is played
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Now people are catching on!Which would mean more money for those authorities who own the grounds when football is played
I think you are correct. Just a matter of whether it will be in the next 1-2 years or a little later.26-28 week season likely.
Don't get carried away. The AFL won't touch it until the dust has settled. We have no idea what individuals will comprise the Parliament. It should be a Minority Liberal Government. I don't think Labor will want to kill the Stadium off as it'll provide construction jobs for its members & a team for its voters as well.With all the political stuff happening in Tas right now you would think AFL are playing Politics and influencing outcomes of elections.
A new political power coming up perhaps?
Labor.
Liberal.
AFL.???
I’m don’t think there is an immediate need for the stadium and many Tasmanians will see the stadium as an unreasonable impost on the State’s treasury, which is not unreasonable. Even though Tassie is a footy State, it’s not a universal passion.I think it’s a ridiculous idea when you can pretty much swim to Bellerive, which is more than adequate to host what I assume will be 7-8 games a year. Establish the team first, get a passionate local fan base and then work on upgrading to a specialist stadium
But yes, I do think in order to win over the AFL and clubs they’ll fork out the cash to build it.
The Tassie government need to show they’re committed to the 20 million or so a year required to stop the team becoming a drain on the comp. There’s no better way to show that commitment by forking over a stash of cash for the stadium.
Congratulations for figuring out football in March typically provides good playing conditions. Bit different to asking supporters to pay premium prices every 2nd week throughout winter.I am currently watching the Bulldogs v Gold Coast in Ballarat, on a ground that is no stadium but it works as a good size country ground and I don’t see any issues with the quality of the game.
If the Bulldogs played all of their home games in Ballarat then they’d be a financial black hole on the competition. They play their low-drawing games there that would normally run at a loss at Marvel. Fortunately for the Dogs they share a city with 8 other clubs, so they host Melbourne derbies for half of their home games. Many of these games are against big clubs, which ensure big crowds and profitable games.I’m don’t think there is an immediate need for the stadium and many Tasmanians will see the stadium as an unreasonable impost on the State’s treasury, which is not unreasonable. Even though Tassie is a footy State, it’s not a universal passion.
I am currently watching the Bulldogs v Gold Coast in Ballarat, on a ground that is no stadium but it works as a good size country ground and I don’t see any issues with the quality of the game.
Let the situation evolve with a commitment to a new ground and ongoing development being the better option over the longer term.
silly question, could North Hobart oval be rebuilt as a new AFL ground? Close proximity to cbd?
silly question, could North Hobart oval be rebuilt as a new AFL ground? Close proximity to cbd?
23,000 seats. More than double what the current main "stadium" has.Just heard the stadium was going to be 23k capacity. Surely that’s on the low side especially if this becomes the main stadium for cricket (and soccer)
Must say I’ve never heard of an artificial sloping grass hill in an indoor stadium before. Surely would be a world first?23,000 seats. More than double what the current main "stadium" has.
Whether the design incorporates standing room, and to what degree, remains to be seen. Adelaide Oval style hill behind the goals at each end would get the overall capacity up to 30k:
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Just heard the stadium was going to be 23k capacity. Surely that’s on the low side especially if this becomes the main stadium for cricket (and soccer)
Yes, this has been the plan all along. One of the scoping reports stated that 23k was the optimal capacity at the start, as they predict that demand will only outstrip supply for finals games and games v Big 4 Victorian clubs. Therefore, the extra cost of a higher capacity could not be justified for just a few fixtures each year. Despite this, the Mac 1 proposal will allow for expansion in stages to 31k and then 40k, if it’s required in the future.Just heard? Hasn't this been public knowledge for at least a few years or did something change?
How will constructing a stadium with a roof allow for capacity expansion? AAMI Park is technically expandable to 50,000, but the whole roof structure would need to be replaced which makes it costly and completely unfeasible. A stadium with a roof that entirely covers the ground is only likely to be more impractical still.Yes, this has been the plan all along. One of the scoping reports stated that 23k was the optimal capacity at the start, as they predict that demand will only outstrip supply for finals games and games v Big 4 Victorian clubs. Therefore, the extra cost of a higher capacity could not be justified for just a few fixtures each year. Despite this, the Mac 1 proposal will allow for expansion in stages to 31k and then 40k, if it’s required in the future.
Designing a roof that isn't like AAMI Park's would be an obvious starting point.How will constructing a stadium with a roof allow for capacity expansion? AAMI Park is technically expandable to 50,000, but the whole roof structure would need to be replaced which makes it costly and completely unfeasible. A stadium with a roof that entirely covers the ground is only likely to be more impractical still.
As Teen Wolf has shown through the image above, Mac Point stadium will have similar features to Optus Stadium to allow for an expanded capacity in the future. Leaving extra room above the top tier of seating gives scope for that space to be filled in with additional seating later on. Therefore, the roof won’t be an impediment. The first concept designs will be released next week, so we might be able to visualise how it can be done then. AAMI Park was started 17 years ago, I dare say design techniques have improved a fair bit since then.How will constructing a stadium with a roof allow for capacity expansion? AAMI Park is technically expandable to 50,000, but the whole roof structure would need to be replaced which makes it costly and completely unfeasible. A stadium with a roof that entirely covers the ground is only likely to be more impractical still.
They should start at 31k. 23k will be too small. Tasmania needs to market for visitors as well. Tourism dollars etc.Designing a roof that isn't like AAMI Park's would be an obvious starting point.
In other words, leave enough room for expansion, which is what the stadium footprint test-fit suggested:
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Would've required $100m more from the federal government.They should start at 31k. 23k will be too small. Tasmania needs to market for visitors as well. Tourism dollars etc.