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Go take some more drugs. Name 15 better Test bowlers than Binga. And consistency is a criteria.
How bad is Brett Lee at the minute
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Go take some more drugs. Name 15 better Test bowlers than Binga. And consistency is a criteria.
Dizzy wasn't really given the opportunity, he tore a hole in the FC cricket when he was dropped from the test arena (unlike some who complain that their FC form failure was caused by being ill treated by the selectors).
And to be honest, our FC competition is currently the strongest in the world, batsman perform better on the test arena than they do in the FC arena. Siddle isn't even the best victorian bowler and he's performing adequately, and FC batsman scorn the rubbish hauritz bowls 77 wickets at nearly 50 from 40 odd FC games is embarrassing, and yet he performs well at the test level.
that would indicate, on form, dizzy was prematurely ejected from the test arena, he pretty much gave up i reckon after he was dumped from the test side after 2006. but he was never afforded the luxuries of being carried for more than 1 series.
And to be honest, our FC competition is currently the strongest in the world, batsman perform better on the test arena than they do in the FC arena. Siddle isn't even the best victorian bowler and he's performing adequately, and FC batsman scorn the rubbish hauritz bowls 77 wickets at nearly 50 from 40 odd FC games is embarrassing, and yet he performs well at the test level.
that would indicate, on form, dizzy was prematurely ejected from the test arena, he pretty much gave up i reckon after he was dumped from the test side after 2006. but he was never afforded the luxuries of being carried for more than 1 series.
consistency you say? 70 odd test matches taking wickets at an average of above 30 is enough time to show that he is a good bowler without being a great bowler.
when he loses his cool he starts bowling pies and leaking like a sieve.
for a bowler capable of devastating spells, he still behaves like a petulant pie tosser when he doesn't get his way.
he'll certainly isn't rubbish, but he isn't in the league of the great fast bowlers.
its laughable that someone compared him to alan donald who was a great test fast bowler, and a several leagues in quality above lee.
consistency you say? 70 odd test matches taking wickets at an average of above 30 is enough time to show that he is a good bowler without being a great bowler.
when he loses his cool he starts bowling pies and leaking like a sieve.
for a bowler capable of devastating spells, he still behaves like a petulant pie tosser when he doesn't get his way.
he'll certainly isn't rubbish, but he isn't in the league of the great fast bowlers.
its laughable that someone compared him to alan donald who was a great test fast bowler, and a several leagues in quality above lee.
as for bowlers better than lee, in no particular order, just in the last 25 years:
lillee, hadlee, McGrath, Warne, McGilla, Gillespie, Hughes, McDermott, Hadlee, Alan Donald, Shaun Pillock, Ntini, Muraliduran, chaminda Vaas, Darren Gough, Curtly ambrose, Malcolm Marshall, Joel Garner, holding, wasim akram, waqar Younis, imran khan, Kapil Dev, and thats just a quick summary.
You mean of all time, all the great australian bowlers?
Arthur Mailey
Bill O'Reilly
Ray Lindwall
Alan Davidson
Clarrie Grimmett
Dennis Lillee
Thommo
Shane Warne
McGrath
Richie Benaud
Stuart Macgill
Keith Miller
Ashley Mallet
Craig McDermott
Jason Gillespie
Those guys are some of the best Australian bowlers I can think of who are all better than Lee over their careers. That's with my limited knowledge in the history of Australian cricket, too
Didn't Lee suffer from back injuries very early in his career? I'd imagine that would have had an effect on his bowling. He started in a blaze of glory and you don't just lose that talent, but he fell away very quickly.
Alderman and Reid certainly
Regardless of this list in terms of Lee (which is interesting - mallet no way!), l find Garth Mckenzie is nearly always forgotten in these kind of lists. Good record, rated by his peers it seems and could have been even more if not for contextual reasons.
Shaun Tait
Beau Casson
Dan Cullen
Brad Williams
Scott Muller
Matthew Nicholson
Paul Wilson
Peter McIntyre
Brendan Julian
Jo Angel
Trevor Hohns
Chris Matthews
Simon Davis
Dave Gilbert
Murray Bennett
John Maguire
Simon Cook?
Michael Bevan.
Jesus I’m a mod and I’m helping make this thread worse...
Jesus I’m a mod and I’m helping make this thread worse...
Steyn (note the spelling) will go down in history as a far greater bowler than Brett Lee.
ok, at least 16 better than Lee, and that's just recently.
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See the thing is, even when he is bowling well, there is always at least one pie an over. He never really learnt to dominate batsmen in the way that Mcgrath or Ambrose did.
How bad is Brett Lee at the minute?
He is as bad as his singing.
How bad is Brett Lee at the minute?
He is as bad as his singing.
Nah disagree. When he is at his best he is a gun. He was terrific last year, we would have won the first test if he had been in that form.
You have no taste!
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He has obviously threatened the selectors to sing again if they drop him.
That just isn't true. Why would you post that?
Yeah, don’t mind having a little fun. But there is no need to make stuff up. Kicking a guy when he is down is pretty boring.
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I cant believe you lot are Aussies. Fckng disgrace. No cricket sense or brains in your body. Just trolls.
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No chance......spelling.........No Chance !!
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Troll, should be banned from the Cricket forum. When Binga was going well, you would be the first to suck his Binga.
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