Analysis How the revamped Tigers could look in 2023 with the potential additions of Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper

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HERALD SUN - Jon Ralph, September 10, 2022

Just how far can the additions of Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper take Richmond? Take a look at the Tigers’ best 22 for 2023 and tell us what you think.

Next season Jack Riewoldt will play at Richmond on a contract as much as $175,000 less than former Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones, who landed at Arden St this year.

For comparison, Riewoldt has three flags, three Coleman Medals, 11 Richmond goalkicking trophies and 755 goals to Coleman-Jones’ 19 games and 16 goals.
As Riewoldt said on Friday, the chase for the flag is one of the primary reasons he is playing on, having confided to good mate Richie Porte on a charity bike ride over summer this would be his last year.

But it is another example of the chasm between the AFL’s haves and have nots, with Riewoldt prepared to play for $300,000 and the Tigers using the 2022 second-round pick they secured for Coleman-Jones to help nab GWS mids Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.
The Tigers already look top-four bound next year, and what is to say in 2025, when Dustin Martin’s $1.3 million falls off their books, they won’t go out and find another Tom Lynch-style free agent to succeed him.

So Richmond are the big winners already from the trade period.

[PLAYERCARD]Tim Taranto[/PLAYERCARD] and [PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD] are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

And yet surely by the time the Roos are handed a suite of picks from their special assistance request, the AFL will have recognised the extraordinary equalisation challenge the league is facing.
Whether it is a priority selection before the No.1 overall draft selection or a suite of early mid-first-round or end-of-first-round picks, the league will be fully aware of the dangers of doing too little.

The draft and salary cap are supposed to create a boom-bust cycle, but on current draft position the Roos will take picks one and 55 to the draft after a two-win year and Richmond will add Hopper and Taranto and also try to draft a developing young tall.

Richmond’s Best 22 In Round 1 2023​

FB: Robbie Tarrant, Noah Balta, Nathan Broad
HB: Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Daniel Rioli
C: Jayden Short, Tim Taranto, Kamdyn McIntosh
HB: Shai Bolton, Jack Riewoldt, Maurice Rioli
F: Dustin Martin, Tom Lynch, Noah Cumberland
R: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
INT: Liam Baker, Ben Miller, Marlion Pickett, Trent Cotchin, Tyler Sonsie
EMERG: Josh Gibcus, Jack Ross, Jack Graham, Hugo Ralphsmith



The AFL will have to think seriously about the Roos securing a pre-draft priority pick to secure the best two kids in the land if they actually want them to improve quickly enough to be competitive as the vast TV rights deal kicks in for 2025.
After all, the AFL is nothing if it is not a money-making organisation and it will be desperate for nine competitive games in coming years before Tasmania enters the competition as early as 2026.

Not only are Gold Coast and GWS gutted by established clubs on a yearly basis —Hopper and Taranto join Suns star Izak Rankine in moving back to traditional teams — the old national draft mechanism just doesn’t work like it used to.
Richmond win the 2017 flag and 12 months later add Gold Coast free agent Lynch.

Then they prey on the Giants salary cap weakness — created by the lack of COLA and huge rival offers for established stars — to drag out Taranto and Hopper.

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Hopper wants to come to the bright lights of Richmond and who could blame him after he played in front of crowds of 9010, 7772 and 7338 in three of his last five GWS games.

Some of the Giants’ salary cap issues are self-inflicted, but as the AFL considers North Melbourne’s priority pick submission in Grand Final week Richmond’s trade heist will surely weigh heavily on the minds of the AFL.

DETAIL IN TIGERS’ HOPPER OFFER CATS REFUSED TO MATCH

Greater Western Sydney star Jacob Hopper has chosen Richmond as his preferred trade destination with the emerging star keen to join the Tigers on a seven-year deal.
Hopper is set to be part of an astonishing trade double act that will see the Tigers recharge their midfield with Hopper hopeful GWS will grant him a trade request to join his mate Tim Taranto.

Geelong had been a strong suitor for Hopper, who is a GWS academy player growing up in the small Riverine town of Leeton but boarded in Ballarat while at St Patrick’s College.

But the Tigers are believed to have pitched a more lucrative deal and have also offered seven seasons, which the Cats were not prepared to match.
The Cats will now plan their next move and are still keen on GWS teammate Tanner Bruhn, unwilling to significantly up their offer given they pay players in fairly strict bands to ensure fairness across the list.

Jacob Hopper is hoping to join Richmond during the trade period. Picture: Getty Images
Hopper headed overseas on Thursday morning and before that his management firm Connors Sports informed the Cats that if he moved the Tigers would be his likely home instead of them.

But unlike the uncontracted Taranto Hopper has a deal through to 2023 so Richmond will have to stump up a significant deal involving multiple picks or he will remain at GWS.

Richmond has long believed it could secure one of the Giants midfielders given the tight salary cap that GWS is trying to rectify this year.
But to secure both Taranto and Hopper will immediately put the Tigers back in as premiership contenders if it can orchestrate trades for the pair.
It seems likely Richmond will have to hand over most of picks 12, 19, 30 and next year’s future first-rounder for the pair and potentially throw in a player like ruckman Ivan Soldo.

GWS will ask for two first rounders for Taranto but the market for experienced mids of his quality in recent years has normally been two first-rounders with a second-rounder handed back.

What will Richmond need to give up in trades for Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto?​

Picks 12, 19 and a future-first
Picks 12, 19, a future-first and player
Picks 12 and 19
Pick 12 and a future first-round pick
Another combination of players/picks

Richmond believes Taranto’s vast tank will allow him to play as a more defensive mid who wins key stoppages but then can two-way run and allow Shai Bolton and Dustin Martin to play a more offensive role.
Hopper, a former No. 7 draft pick, had his 2022 season ruined by a knee injury but last year averaged 26 disposals, 98 ranking points, 12 contested possessions and 6.3 stoppages a game.

At only 25 the Tigers will believe they can get 150 exceptional games from him and keep their premiership window wide open.
For Geelong the decision is a setback but the emergence of Max Holmes and Tom Atkins as an inside midfielder means they will not be short of midfield options.
Bruhn, a number 12 draft pick at GWS, has interest from Hawthorn, North Melbourne and the Cats but has plenty of time to decide his future.

[PLAYERCARD]Jacob Hopper[/PLAYERCARD] wants to be traded to Richmond.

Jacob Hopper wants to be traded to Richmond.
 

HERALD SUN - Jon Ralph, September 10, 2022

Just how far can the additions of Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper take Richmond? Take a look at the Tigers’ best 22 for 2023 and tell us what you think.

Next season Jack Riewoldt will play at Richmond on a contract as much as $175,000 less than former Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones, who landed at Arden St this year.

For comparison, Riewoldt has three flags, three Coleman Medals, 11 Richmond goalkicking trophies and 755 goals to Coleman-Jones’ 19 games and 16 goals.
As Riewoldt said on Friday, the chase for the flag is one of the primary reasons he is playing on, having confided to good mate Richie Porte on a charity bike ride over summer this would be his last year.

But it is another example of the chasm between the AFL’s haves and have nots, with Riewoldt prepared to play for $300,000 and the Tigers using the 2022 second-round pick they secured for Coleman-Jones to help nab GWS mids Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.
The Tigers already look top-four bound next year, and what is to say in 2025, when Dustin Martin’s $1.3 million falls off their books, they won’t go out and find another Tom Lynch-style free agent to succeed him.

So Richmond are the big winners already from the trade period.

Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

And yet surely by the time the Roos are handed a suite of picks from their special assistance request, the AFL will have recognised the extraordinary equalisation challenge the league is facing.
Whether it is a priority selection before the No.1 overall draft selection or a suite of early mid-first-round or end-of-first-round picks, the league will be fully aware of the dangers of doing too little.

The draft and salary cap are supposed to create a boom-bust cycle, but on current draft position the Roos will take picks one and 55 to the draft after a two-win year and Richmond will add Hopper and Taranto and also try to draft a developing young tall.

Richmond’s Best 22 In Round 1 2023​

FB: Robbie Tarrant, Noah Balta, Nathan Broad
HB: Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Daniel Rioli
C: Jayden Short, Tim Taranto, Kamdyn McIntosh
HB: Shai Bolton, Jack Riewoldt, Maurice Rioli
F: Dustin Martin, Tom Lynch, Noah Cumberland
R: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
INT: Liam Baker, Ben Miller, Marlion Pickett, Trent Cotchin, Tyler Sonsie
EMERG: Josh Gibcus, Jack Ross, Jack Graham, Hugo Ralphsmith



The AFL will have to think seriously about the Roos securing a pre-draft priority pick to secure the best two kids in the land if they actually want them to improve quickly enough to be competitive as the vast TV rights deal kicks in for 2025.
After all, the AFL is nothing if it is not a money-making organisation and it will be desperate for nine competitive games in coming years before Tasmania enters the competition as early as 2026.

Not only are Gold Coast and GWS gutted by established clubs on a yearly basis —Hopper and Taranto join Suns star Izak Rankine in moving back to traditional teams — the old national draft mechanism just doesn’t work like it used to.
Richmond win the 2017 flag and 12 months later add Gold Coast free agent Lynch.

Then they prey on the Giants salary cap weakness — created by the lack of COLA and huge rival offers for established stars — to drag out Taranto and Hopper.

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Hopper wants to come to the bright lights of Richmond and who could blame him after he played in front of crowds of 9010, 7772 and 7338 in three of his last five GWS games.

Some of the Giants’ salary cap issues are self-inflicted, but as the AFL considers North Melbourne’s priority pick submission in Grand Final week Richmond’s trade heist will surely weigh heavily on the minds of the AFL.

DETAIL IN TIGERS’ HOPPER OFFER CATS REFUSED TO MATCH

Greater Western Sydney star Jacob Hopper has chosen Richmond as his preferred trade destination with the emerging star keen to join the Tigers on a seven-year deal.
Hopper is set to be part of an astonishing trade double act that will see the Tigers recharge their midfield with Hopper hopeful GWS will grant him a trade request to join his mate Tim Taranto.

Geelong had been a strong suitor for Hopper, who is a GWS academy player growing up in the small Riverine town of Leeton but boarded in Ballarat while at St Patrick’s College.

But the Tigers are believed to have pitched a more lucrative deal and have also offered seven seasons, which the Cats were not prepared to match.
The Cats will now plan their next move and are still keen on GWS teammate Tanner Bruhn, unwilling to significantly up their offer given they pay players in fairly strict bands to ensure fairness across the list.

Jacob Hopper is hoping to join Richmond during the trade period. Picture: Getty Images
Hopper headed overseas on Thursday morning and before that his management firm Connors Sports informed the Cats that if he moved the Tigers would be his likely home instead of them.

But unlike the uncontracted Taranto Hopper has a deal through to 2023 so Richmond will have to stump up a significant deal involving multiple picks or he will remain at GWS.

Richmond has long believed it could secure one of the Giants midfielders given the tight salary cap that GWS is trying to rectify this year.
But to secure both Taranto and Hopper will immediately put the Tigers back in as premiership contenders if it can orchestrate trades for the pair.
It seems likely Richmond will have to hand over most of picks 12, 19, 30 and next year’s future first-rounder for the pair and potentially throw in a player like ruckman Ivan Soldo.

GWS will ask for two first rounders for Taranto but the market for experienced mids of his quality in recent years has normally been two first-rounders with a second-rounder handed back.

What will Richmond need to give up in trades for Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto?​

Picks 12, 19 and a future-first
Picks 12, 19, a future-first and player
Picks 12 and 19
Pick 12 and a future first-round pick
Another combination of players/picks

Richmond believes Taranto’s vast tank will allow him to play as a more defensive mid who wins key stoppages but then can two-way run and allow Shai Bolton and Dustin Martin to play a more offensive role.
Hopper, a former No. 7 draft pick, had his 2022 season ruined by a knee injury but last year averaged 26 disposals, 98 ranking points, 12 contested possessions and 6.3 stoppages a game.

At only 25 the Tigers will believe they can get 150 exceptional games from him and keep their premiership window wide open.
For Geelong the decision is a setback but the emergence of Max Holmes and Tom Atkins as an inside midfielder means they will not be short of midfield options.
Bruhn, a number 12 draft pick at GWS, has interest from Hawthorn, North Melbourne and the Cats but has plenty of time to decide his future.

Jacob Hopper wants to be traded to Richmond.

Jacob Hopper wants to be traded to Richmond.
Didn't hear bubkus from the faux Richmond supporter when Carlton Geelong and Melbourne did the same things , multiple times over the years.
Rent free.
 
Didn't hear bubkus from the faux Richmond supporter when Carlton Geelong and Melbourne did the same things , multiple times over the years.
Rent free.

Unbelievable, Kane Cornes has been going on and on about this. Even today, Cornes, Whateley, Hodge and Sam Edmund discussing it but Cornes was the worst. Hodge defending us as good management and that's all within the rules. Hodgey also mentioned our great culture with Jack and Trent taking pay cuts to allow to bring in Taranto and Hopper. Edmund and Whately were so/so on the whole discussion. Leon Cameron was the guest and he was providing the pros and cons to this deal but stayed somewhat neutral on the matter, Leon has taken up a role at the Sydney Swans as director of their academy.
 

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HERALD SUN - Jon Ralph, September 10, 2022

Just how far can the additions of Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper take Richmond? Take a look at the Tigers’ best 22 for 2023 and tell us what you think.

Next season Jack Riewoldt will play at Richmond on a contract as much as $175,000 less than former Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones, who landed at Arden St this year.

For comparison, Riewoldt has three flags, three Coleman Medals, 11 Richmond goalkicking trophies and 755 goals to Coleman-Jones’ 19 games and 16 goals.
As Riewoldt said on Friday, the chase for the flag is one of the primary reasons he is playing on, having confided to good mate Richie Porte on a charity bike ride over summer this would be his last year.

But it is another example of the chasm between the AFL’s haves and have nots, with Riewoldt prepared to play for $300,000 and the Tigers using the 2022 second-round pick they secured for Coleman-Jones to help nab GWS mids Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.
The Tigers already look top-four bound next year, and what is to say in 2025, when Dustin Martin’s $1.3 million falls off their books, they won’t go out and find another Tom Lynch-style free agent to succeed him.

So Richmond are the big winners already from the trade period.

Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

And yet surely by the time the Roos are handed a suite of picks from their special assistance request, the AFL will have recognised the extraordinary equalisation challenge the league is facing.
Whether it is a priority selection before the No.1 overall draft selection or a suite of early mid-first-round or end-of-first-round picks, the league will be fully aware of the dangers of doing too little.

The draft and salary cap are supposed to create a boom-bust cycle, but on current draft position the Roos will take picks one and 55 to the draft after a two-win year and Richmond will add Hopper and Taranto and also try to draft a developing young tall.

Richmond’s Best 22 In Round 1 2023​

FB: Robbie Tarrant, Noah Balta, Nathan Broad
HB: Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Daniel Rioli
C: Jayden Short, Tim Taranto, Kamdyn McIntosh
HB: Shai Bolton, Jack Riewoldt, Maurice Rioli
F: Dustin Martin, Tom Lynch, Noah Cumberland
R: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
INT: Liam Baker, Ben Miller, Marlion Pickett, Trent Cotchin, Tyler Sonsie
EMERG: Josh Gibcus, Jack Ross, Jack Graham, Hugo Ralphsmith



The AFL will have to think seriously about the Roos securing a pre-draft priority pick to secure the best two kids in the land if they actually want them to improve quickly enough to be competitive as the vast TV rights deal kicks in for 2025.
After all, the AFL is nothing if it is not a money-making organisation and it will be desperate for nine competitive games in coming years before Tasmania enters the competition as early as 2026.

Not only are Gold Coast and GWS gutted by established clubs on a yearly basis —Hopper and Taranto join Suns star Izak Rankine in moving back to traditional teams — the old national draft mechanism just doesn’t work like it used to.
Richmond win the 2017 flag and 12 months later add Gold Coast free agent Lynch.

Then they prey on the Giants salary cap weakness — created by the lack of COLA and huge rival offers for established stars — to drag out Taranto and Hopper.

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Hopper wants to come to the bright lights of Richmond and who could blame him after he played in front of crowds of 9010, 7772 and 7338 in three of his last five GWS games.

Some of the Giants’ salary cap issues are self-inflicted, but as the AFL considers North Melbourne’s priority pick submission in Grand Final week Richmond’s trade heist will surely weigh heavily on the minds of the AFL.

DETAIL IN TIGERS’ HOPPER OFFER CATS REFUSED TO MATCH

Greater Western Sydney star Jacob Hopper has chosen Richmond as his preferred trade destination with the emerging star keen to join the Tigers on a seven-year deal.
Hopper is set to be part of an astonishing trade double act that will see the Tigers recharge their midfield with Hopper hopeful GWS will grant him a trade request to join his mate Tim Taranto.

Geelong had been a strong suitor for Hopper, who is a GWS academy player growing up in the small Riverine town of Leeton but boarded in Ballarat while at St Patrick’s College.

But the Tigers are believed to have pitched a more lucrative deal and have also offered seven seasons, which the Cats were not prepared to match.
The Cats will now plan their next move and are still keen on GWS teammate Tanner Bruhn, unwilling to significantly up their offer given they pay players in fairly strict bands to ensure fairness across the list.

Jacob Hopper is hoping to join Richmond during the trade period. Picture: Getty Images
Hopper headed overseas on Thursday morning and before that his management firm Connors Sports informed the Cats that if he moved the Tigers would be his likely home instead of them.

But unlike the uncontracted Taranto Hopper has a deal through to 2023 so Richmond will have to stump up a significant deal involving multiple picks or he will remain at GWS.

Richmond has long believed it could secure one of the Giants midfielders given the tight salary cap that GWS is trying to rectify this year.
But to secure both Taranto and Hopper will immediately put the Tigers back in as premiership contenders if it can orchestrate trades for the pair.
It seems likely Richmond will have to hand over most of picks 12, 19, 30 and next year’s future first-rounder for the pair and potentially throw in a player like ruckman Ivan Soldo.

GWS will ask for two first rounders for Taranto but the market for experienced mids of his quality in recent years has normally been two first-rounders with a second-rounder handed back.

What will Richmond need to give up in trades for Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto?​

Picks 12, 19 and a future-first
Picks 12, 19, a future-first and player
Picks 12 and 19
Pick 12 and a future first-round pick
Another combination of players/picks

Richmond believes Taranto’s vast tank will allow him to play as a more defensive mid who wins key stoppages but then can two-way run and allow Shai Bolton and Dustin Martin to play a more offensive role.
Hopper, a former No. 7 draft pick, had his 2022 season ruined by a knee injury but last year averaged 26 disposals, 98 ranking points, 12 contested possessions and 6.3 stoppages a game.

At only 25 the Tigers will believe they can get 150 exceptional games from him and keep their premiership window wide open.
For Geelong the decision is a setback but the emergence of Max Holmes and Tom Atkins as an inside midfielder means they will not be short of midfield options.
Bruhn, a number 12 draft pick at GWS, has interest from Hawthorn, North Melbourne and the Cats but has plenty of time to decide his future.

Jacob Hopper wants to be traded to Richmond.

Jacob Hopper wants to be traded to Richmond.

There is no such thing as a five person interchange
 
Unbelievable, Kane Cornes has been going on and on about this. Even today, Cornes, Whateley, Hodge and Sam Edmund discussing it but Cornes was the worst. Hodge defending us as good management and that's all within the rules. Hodgey also mentioned our great culture with Jack and Trent taking pay cuts to allow to bring in Taranto and Hopper. Edmund and Whately were so/so on the whole discussion. Leon Cameron was the guest and he was providing the pros and cons to this deal but stayed somewhat neutral on the matter, Leon has taken up a role at the Sydney Swans as director of their academy.
What did he mention about the pros and cons Leon ?.
 

HERALD SUN - Jon Ralph, September 10, 2022

Just how far can the additions of Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper take Richmond? Take a look at the Tigers’ best 22 for 2023 and tell us what you think.

Next season Jack Riewoldt will play at Richmond on a contract as much as $175,000 less than former Tiger Callum Coleman-Jones, who landed at Arden St this year.

For comparison, Riewoldt has three flags, three Coleman Medals, 11 Richmond goalkicking trophies and 755 goals to Coleman-Jones’ 19 games and 16 goals.
As Riewoldt said on Friday, the chase for the flag is one of the primary reasons he is playing on, having confided to good mate Richie Porte on a charity bike ride over summer this would be his last year.

But it is another example of the chasm between the AFL’s haves and have nots, with Riewoldt prepared to play for $300,000 and the Tigers using the 2022 second-round pick they secured for Coleman-Jones to help nab GWS mids Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper.
The Tigers already look top-four bound next year, and what is to say in 2025, when Dustin Martin’s $1.3 million falls off their books, they won’t go out and find another Tom Lynch-style free agent to succeed him.

So Richmond are the big winners already from the trade period.

Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

Tim Taranto and Jacob Hopper are set to join the Tigers. Picture: Phil Hillyard

And yet surely by the time the Roos are handed a suite of picks from their special assistance request, the AFL will have recognised the extraordinary equalisation challenge the league is facing.
Whether it is a priority selection before the No.1 overall draft selection or a suite of early mid-first-round or end-of-first-round picks, the league will be fully aware of the dangers of doing too little.

The draft and salary cap are supposed to create a boom-bust cycle, but on current draft position the Roos will take picks one and 55 to the draft after a two-win year and Richmond will add Hopper and Taranto and also try to draft a developing young tall.

Richmond’s Best 22 In Round 1 2023​

FB: Robbie Tarrant, Noah Balta, Nathan Broad
HB: Nick Vlastuin, Dylan Grimes, Daniel Rioli
C: Jayden Short, Tim Taranto, Kamdyn McIntosh
HB: Shai Bolton, Jack Riewoldt, Maurice Rioli
F: Dustin Martin, Tom Lynch, Noah Cumberland
R: Toby Nankervis, Dion Prestia, Jacob Hopper
INT: Liam Baker, Ben Miller, Marlion Pickett, Trent Cotchin, Tyler Sonsie
EMERG: Josh Gibcus, Jack Ross, Jack Graham, Hugo Ralphsmith



The AFL will have to think seriously about the Roos securing a pre-draft priority pick to secure the best two kids in the land if they actually want them to improve quickly enough to be competitive as the vast TV rights deal kicks in for 2025.
After all, the AFL is nothing if it is not a money-making organisation and it will be desperate for nine competitive games in coming years before Tasmania enters the competition as early as 2026.

Not only are Gold Coast and GWS gutted by established clubs on a yearly basis —Hopper and Taranto join Suns star Izak Rankine in moving back to traditional teams — the old national draft mechanism just doesn’t work like it used to.
Richmond win the 2017 flag and 12 months later add Gold Coast free agent Lynch.

Then they prey on the Giants salary cap weakness — created by the lack of COLA and huge rival offers for established stars — to drag out Taranto and Hopper.

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Jack Riewoldt is staying at Richmond on a cut-price deal. Picture: Getty Images)

Hopper wants to come to the bright lights of Richmond and who could blame him after he played in front of crowds of 9010, 7772 and 7338 in three of his last five GWS games.

Some of the Giants’ salary cap issues are self-inflicted, but as the AFL considers North Melbourne’s priority pick submission in Grand Final week Richmond’s trade heist will surely weigh heavily on the minds of the AFL.

DETAIL IN TIGERS’ HOPPER OFFER CATS REFUSED TO MATCH

Greater Western Sydney star Jacob Hopper has chosen Richmond as his preferred trade destination with the emerging star keen to join the Tigers on a seven-year deal.
Hopper is set to be part of an astonishing trade double act that will see the Tigers recharge their midfield with Hopper hopeful GWS will grant him a trade request to join his mate Tim Taranto.

Geelong had been a strong suitor for Hopper, who is a GWS academy player growing up in the small Riverine town of Leeton but boarded in Ballarat while at St Patrick’s College.

But the Tigers are believed to have pitched a more lucrative deal and have also offered seven seasons, which the Cats were not prepared to match.
The Cats will now plan their next move and are still keen on GWS teammate Tanner Bruhn, unwilling to significantly up their offer given they pay players in fairly strict bands to ensure fairness across the list.

Jacob Hopper is hoping to join Richmond during the trade period. Picture: Getty Images
Hopper headed overseas on Thursday morning and before that his management firm Connors Sports informed the Cats that if he moved the Tigers would be his likely home instead of them.

But unlike the uncontracted Taranto Hopper has a deal through to 2023 so Richmond will have to stump up a significant deal involving multiple picks or he will remain at GWS.

Richmond has long believed it could secure one of the Giants midfielders given the tight salary cap that GWS is trying to rectify this year.
But to secure both Taranto and Hopper will immediately put the Tigers back in as premiership contenders if it can orchestrate trades for the pair.
It seems likely Richmond will have to hand over most of picks 12, 19, 30 and next year’s future first-rounder for the pair and potentially throw in a player like ruckman Ivan Soldo.

GWS will ask for two first rounders for Taranto but the market for experienced mids of his quality in recent years has normally been two first-rounders with a second-rounder handed back.

What will Richmond need to give up in trades for Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto?​

Picks 12, 19 and a future-first
Picks 12, 19, a future-first and player
Picks 12 and 19
Pick 12 and a future first-round pick
Another combination of players/picks

Richmond believes Taranto’s vast tank will allow him to play as a more defensive mid who wins key stoppages but then can two-way run and allow Shai Bolton and Dustin Martin to play a more offensive role.
Hopper, a former No. 7 draft pick, had his 2022 season ruined by a knee injury but last year averaged 26 disposals, 98 ranking points, 12 contested possessions and 6.3 stoppages a game.

At only 25 the Tigers will believe they can get 150 exceptional games from him and keep their premiership window wide open.
For Geelong the decision is a setback but the emergence of Max Holmes and Tom Atkins as an inside midfielder means they will not be short of midfield options.
Bruhn, a number 12 draft pick at GWS, has interest from Hawthorn, North Melbourne and the Cats but has plenty of time to decide his future.

Jacob Hopper wants to be traded to Richmond.

Jacob Hopper wants to be traded to Richmond.
He's pretty much nailed our best 22, the only problem being a 5 man interchange bench (1 of them could be the medisub I spose)

But boy oh boy, some of the assumptions are downright wrong......For instance "some of the salary cap woes are self inflicted" !! How about all of the woes are self inflicted. And how about this.......
"Not only are Gold Coast and GWS gutted by established clubs on a yearly basis —Hopper and Taranto join Suns star Izak Rankine in moving back to traditional teams — the old national draft mechanism just doesn’t work like it used to.
Richmond win the 2017 flag and 12 months later add Gold Coast free agent Lynch" Where the **** is the talk about Cameron and what SOS did?

But this one is the cream on the cake......

"And yet surely by the time the Roos are handed a suite of picks from their special assistance request, the AFL will have recognised the extraordinary equalisation challenge the league is facing.
Whether it is a priority selection before the No.1 overall draft selection or a suite of early mid-first-round or end-of-first-round picks, the league will be fully aware of the dangers of doing too little.

The draft and salary cap are supposed to create a boom-bust cycle, but on current draft position the Roos will take picks one and 55 to the draft after a two-win year and Richmond will add Hopper and Taranto and also try to draft a developing young tall."

The Roos current draft situation has come from them trading out their future picks last year, the most valuable being 19 for CCJ. Surely we should be congratulated for being able to manage our TPP's so we can actually bring in those type of players? Not to mention that we'll be left with just a pick in the 80's and no 1st rounder next year.

Like I've said in other threads, the whole of the AFL are scared shitless that we'll be a dominant force for years to come.
 
Unbelievable, Kane Cornes has been going on and on about this. Even today, Cornes, Whateley, Hodge and Sam Edmund discussing it but Cornes was the worst. Hodge defending us as good management and that's all within the rules. Hodgey also mentioned our great culture with Jack and Trent taking pay cuts to allow to bring in Taranto and Hopper. Edmund and Whately were so/so on the whole discussion. Leon Cameron was the guest and he was providing the pros and cons to this deal but stayed somewhat neutral on the matter, Leon has taken up a role at the Sydney Swans as director of their academy.

Who gives a toss what Cornes, Whately and Hodge think? Are they overlords of the game are they? It is supposed to be a competition, not a welfare convention to suit oligarchs
 
There is no such thing as a five person interchange

Too much talent to cut one, needed to extend the bench for his article or maybe just meant the 5th to be the sub and the emergencies just an extra 4 after the 23. The emergencies wow. All I know with the additions of Taranto and Hoper that's a seriously talented team.
 
What did he mention about the pros and cons Leon ?.

Just that he can see that a team like Richmond can enhance their list with 2 talented players whilst having won 3 from the past 5 flags. This will keep their window open. The cons bad for GWS and GC who draft players but lose them too quickly after 2-3 years. Cornes going on about gws finished 16th and will only get weaker but Richmond already has a talented list and won 3 flags and wil challenge again.

Whately goes would we be talking about this if Hopper went to Geelong and Taranto went to Richmond perhaps not. It's unusual for one team to get two highly talented players at once and to strike a deal for both in one shot.
 
Too much talent to cut one, needed to extend the bench for his article or maybe just meant the 5th to be the sub and the emergencies just an extra 4 after the 23. The emergencies wow. All I know with the additions of Taranto and Hoper that's a seriously talented team.
And like all successful teams the depth down to players 27-30 is outstanding, HRS, Soldo, Stack, Clark, Banks, Brown. Sorry, that actually takes us to 32.
 

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What is amazing with the equalisation comments is that all clubs play under the same rules. It’s just that we’ve managed our list and payments far better over the last years. You can’t penalise a club simply because they do their work better, are more professional, are more astute.
AFL disagrees with this. It's all about equality of outcomes not opportunity for the campaigners.
 
What is amazing with the equalisation comments is that all clubs play under the same rules. It’s just that we’ve managed our list and payments far better over the last years. You can’t penalise a club simply because they do their work better, are more professional, are more astute.
The AFL will now give the Roos a shitload of concessions to devalue our picks and make the trades for TT & Hopper just that much harder
 
Who gives a toss what Cornes, Whately and Hodge think? Are they overlords of the game are they? It is supposed to be a competition, not a welfare convention to suit oligarchs

Spot on, but it's radio. Everyone has an opinion whether you agree or not. Cornes just wants to create drama and wants people calling in.
Helps to pass time listening to SEN whilst driving.
 
He pretty much nailed the side. Only change would be Pickett in for McIntosh. Short was born for a wing role been saying it for 5 years now. Graham has currency and will become Josh Caddy getting paid $500k in Magoo's then value drops. He had suitors previously I'd trade him now. Ross, Sonsie have leapfrogged him and got plenty of kids to come in.
 
Just that he can see that a team like Richmond can enhance their list with 2 talented players whilst having won 3 from the past 5 flags. This will keep their window open. The cons bad for GWS and GC who draft players but lose them too quickly after 2-3 years. Cornes going on about gws finished 16th and will only get weaker but Richmond already has a talented list and won 3 flags and wil challenge again.

Whately goes would we be talking about this if Hopper went to Geelong and Taranto went to Richmond perhaps not. It's unusual for one team to get two highly talented players at once and to strike a deal for both in one shot.
100% they're pissed off except Hodge.
This how stoopid they are.
You think the cats are sitting idol and not thinking ahead Iike us.lol
 
Just that he can see that a team like Richmond can enhance their list with 2 talented players whilst having won 3 from the past 5 flags. This will keep their window open. The cons bad for GWS and GC who draft players but lose them too quickly after 2-3 years. Cornes going on about gws finished 16th and will only get weaker but Richmond already has a talented list and won 3 flags and wil challenge again.

Whately goes would we be talking about this if Hopper went to Geelong and Taranto went to Richmond perhaps not. It's unusual for one team to get two highly talented players at once and to strike a deal for both in one shot.
F* Buttthurt Campaigners.

F* them all.
 
This feels a lot like the Brandon Ellis compo narrative. A media up in arms so the AFL override their own rules.

Priority picks punishes every team (as do compo picks), especially those actually at the bottom and should never be used again. And history suggest they don’t really help (GC, Dees, Blues etc.), off field stability, culture and development have made us cats and swans successful.

The Dees and Lions despite all their picks never put it together until the AFL hand picked the dees ceo and coach forcing some stability, and did something similar at the Lions.
Even then it’s still takes years for that to filter down to the list and performance.

There always has to be losers in a competition but these equalisation narrative seems he’ll bent on awarding a premiership to each club once every 18 years.
 
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He pretty much nailed the side. Only change would be Pickett in for McIntosh. Short was born for a wing role been saying it for 5 years now. Graham has currency and will become Josh Caddy getting paid $500k in Magoo's then value drops. He had suitors previously I'd trade him now. Ross, Sonsie have leapfrogged him and got plenty of kids to come in.

Graham is clearly our best defensive mid and has to play.. too many attacking mids can be dangerous th other way, IMO that’s what undid th demons th last few games.
Happy to be proven wrong tho


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