If you were be all and end all of the AFL

Whitebluestripes · Sep 28, 2006

What changes would you make to the game?

Stereophonic · Sep 28, 2006

hmm, off side, FB and both back pockets cannot go past the centre line. No kicking backwards at anytime. Also, not in the actual game per se, but perhaps I could moot the idea of a mid-season draft for people like M. Gardiner??? :thumbsu:

Whitebluestripes · Sep 28, 2006

Judd the Great Man said:
hmm, off side, FB and both back pockets cannot go past the centre line. No kicking backwards at anytime. Also, not in the actual game per se, but perhaps I could moot the idea of a mid-season draft for people like M. Gardiner???

The backwards thing is coming into play next year isnt it? Or is that just for pre season?

Spiz · Sep 28, 2006

3 points for rushed behind.
State of origin.
Extend season to allow all teams to play each other twice.
Make sure the AFLPA MVP becomes the biggest individual award in footy instead of Brownlow.

Whitebluestripes · Sep 28, 2006

Spiz said:
3 points for rushed behind.
State of origin.
Extend season to allow all teams to play each other twice.
Make sure the AFLPA MVP becomes the biggest individual award in footy instead of Brownlow.

Yeah damn right about the 3 points for rushed behinds, Ive been saying the same for a very long time. Yet whenver I bring it up with my friends, they think its ridiculous and say, 'Well how are they supposed to defend?" Whats ridiculous? Cheap defending? You shouldnt be rewarded for not being able to clear the ball, or get it going offensively somehow.

timthefish · Sep 28, 2006

Judd the Great Man said:
off side

please elaborate as certain interpretations of this would absolutely transform and ruin the game.

Spiz · Sep 28, 2006

Whitebluestripes said:
Yeah damn right about the 3 points for rushed behinds, Ive been saying the same for a very long time. Yet whenver I bring it up with my friends, they think its ridiculous and say, 'Well how are they supposed to defend?" Whats ridiculous? Cheap defending? You shouldnt be rewarded for not being able to clear the ball, or get it going offensively somehow.

Exactly! But, only for the gutless rush behinds. If however you're 2 points up and a bloke for the other team is running into the goals and you manage to tackle him and stumble over the line, i dont think it's fair to be put down as 3 points.
It might make for a bit of umming and ahhing for the umpires but they'd get it right eventually.
Don't worry, i get bagged for airing that opinion too but i reckon it's the right way to go.

Whitebluestripes · Sep 28, 2006

Spiz said:
Exactly! But, only for the gutless rush behinds. If however you're 2 points up and a bloke for the other team is running into the goals and you manage to tackle him and stumble over the line, i dont think it's fair to be put down as 3 points.
It might make for a bit of umming and ahhing for the umpires but they'd get it right eventually.
Don't worry, i get bagged for airing that opinion too but i reckon it's the right way to go.

Yeah as long as the defender didnt have the last possession before it went over. You're right the umpires would get it right eventually, and there would be some dodgy calls as we've seen with the intentional out of bounds decisions.

Brock Machine · Sep 28, 2006

After kicking out after a behind, a rushed behind is worth 3 points until the defending team clears the opposition 50 arc.

Whitebluestripes · Sep 28, 2006

Brock Machine said:
After kicking out after a behind, a rushed behind is worth 3 points until the defending team clears the opposition 50 arc.

Yeah that soudns reasonable, however I also think that going for the safe option when there is 30 players inside the 50 is ridiculous. As for the quick tap outs and releases, well it only makes it that much more frustrating for the offensive team who have just been robbed of a goal maybe, and even a 12 point turn around the other end.

timthefish · Sep 28, 2006

home and away season

brush the post and go through - goal. (hit the post and not go through - point, not still in play)
backwards kick in back half (or behind centre square or something) - play on.
relax diving on ball rule. player must have time to get rid of ball and fail to have attempted to dispose of ball before a penalty.
play to stop after behind until umpire blows whistle (old rule restored. nothing against speed but i think the rushed behind is too attractive now and i don't like the three point rule)

preseason (not trials - i'm just curious to see what would happen)

cut three players (nominally centre line - flankers move towards middle more)

giantroo · Sep 28, 2006

The rules you ve put up, its certainly going to turn into wog ball. Probally in 2 years time we probally wont be allowed to play with our hands but with our feet.

timthefish · Sep 28, 2006

Spiz said:
Exactly! But, only for the gutless rush behinds. If however you're 2 points up and a bloke for the other team is running into the goals and you manage to tackle him and stumble over the line, i dont think it's fair to be put down as 3 points.
It might make for a bit of umming and ahhing for the umpires but they'd get it right eventually.
Don't worry, i get bagged for airing that opinion too but i reckon it's the right way to go.

i think that is way too complicated and subjective. umpires will get that wrong a lot.

Spiz · Sep 28, 2006

Whitebluestripes said:
Yeah as long as the defender didnt have the last possession before it went over. You're right the umpires would get it right eventually, and there would be some dodgy calls as we've seen with the intentional out of bounds decisions.

That's the biggest problem with umpiring. People are too impatient and don't give things a chance to work themselves out so there's all these rule changes all the time.

Wojee · Sep 28, 2006

Whitebluestripes said:
What changes would you make to the game?

I'd ban changes to the rules/interpretations every season.

timthefish · Sep 28, 2006

Spiz said:
3 points for rushed behind.

don't like it. rushed behind isn't that common. revert to old slow kick in rule to make it less attractive.

State of origin.

would be great to see it again with current crop and spread of the game in the nation

Extend season to allow all teams to play each other twice.

season too long with present number of teams. which three or four teams would you cut?

Make sure the AFLPA MVP becomes the biggest individual award in footy instead of Brownlow.

this will happen slowly over time by player and public decree if it is to happen at all. can't be rushed.

Whitebluestripes · Sep 28, 2006

timthefish said:
don't like it. rushed behind isn't that common. revert to old slow kick in rule to make it less attractive.

would be great to see it again with current crop and spread of the game in the nation

season too long with present number of teams. which three of four teams would you cut?

this will happen slowly over time by player and public decree if it is to happen at all. can't be rushed.

Which 3 or 4 teams would you cut? Mmmm sorry I dont agree, maybe relocation, maybe merger, but dont cut them.

Roddy · Sep 28, 2006

Wojee said:
I'd ban changes to the rules/interpretations every season.

Agreed....to me, the game ain't broke.

timthefish · Sep 28, 2006

Whitebluestripes said:
Which 3 or 4 teams would you cut? Mmmm sorry I dont agree, maybe relocation, maybe merger, but dont cut them.

it was meant more to be a provocative statement to point out the difficulty of implementing a double season. i'd prefer the teams to stay as they are as much as they can. by the way, relocation won't help reduce the number of teams.

Spiz · Sep 28, 2006

timthefish said:
don't like it. rushed behind isn't that common. revert to old slow kick in rule to make it less attractive.

would be great to see it again with current crop and spread of the game in the nation

season too long with present number of teams. which three or four teams would you cut?

this will happen slowly over time by player and public decree if it is to happen at all. can't be rushed.

No you can't force it onto people, but you can certainly do what you can to promote it more, no doubt.
I give it 3-5 years before it really starts to get some attention.

Corpuscles · Sep 28, 2006

Whitebluestripes said:
Yeah damn right about the 3 points for rushed behinds, Ive been saying the same for a very long time. Yet whenver I bring it up with my friends, they think its ridiculous and say, 'Well how are they supposed to defend?" Whats ridiculous? Cheap defending? You shouldnt be rewarded for not being able to clear the ball, or get it going offensively somehow.

I don't know you so can't claim friendship but IT IS REDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A goal is worth 6 yet you want two rushed behinds to be worth equal

Umpires have enough trouble interpreting surely you are not suggesting every behind that comes off a defenders last touch? That would mean bomb from outside 50 to the line might be worth half a goal

Part of the game for 100+ years..... behinds do not win footy matches but there are very few that matter.... Travis Johnstones in drawn match V geelong .....did count BIG TIME!

The Mighty Port Power · Sep 28, 2006

Spiz said:
3 points for rushed behind.
State of origin.
Extend season to allow all teams to play each other twice.
Make sure the AFLPA MVP becomes the biggest individual award in footy instead of Brownlow.

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