Movie Inception

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blues4flag said:
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That's strange seems to work for me.

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Don't click on this link if you haven't seen the movie. I couldn't get it to hide using the spoiler tags, so just ignore it.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/An-Illustrated-Guide-To-The-5-Levels-Of-Inception-19643.html

So, basically the general consensus is that you can only go into three dream levels. The next level down is limbo. That doesn't really explain why Cobb was killed by the projection of his dead wife, and then ended up on the beach again. Because if you die in limbo, you should apparently return/wake up.

I think it could be a case of not looking too deep into things. I didn't find the movie to be as amazing as others, which is probably why I'm stuck on this.
 
Great movie, not much to say that already hasn't been. The ending was brilliant.
 

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A few questions.
How does the top behave in 'reality' if there is one? Also, I thought it was designed to differentiate between dreams created by one self and dreams created by others and not between 'dream' and 'reality'? How does the spin of the top differ in someone else's dream (not Cobb's) and in 'reality'?
 
Amazing movie. Agree with the others that perhaps a little less action more character development. Can't really complain though. Best movie I have seen this year.

8/10, brilliant. Can't wait to watch it again.
 
Absolutely amazing. Will go on to be a classic I reckon. Biggest mind-**** I have received, the concept is so fresh and amazingly original. Couldn't have been a better ending either.
 
Saw it last night. Was bloody awesome. Was so impressed by the concept. Easily best movie I've seen this year.
Awesome special effects and action scenes.
Narrative was brilliant. Always felt a step behind yet still keeping up with everything. Best thrillers are always like that.
Acting was also very good.
 
ManWithNoName said:
Now I've recovered from the mindf**k, I'll try and post a more eloquent, spoiler free, review.

Outstanding movie. It's a movie where you definitely need to be paying attention all the time as everything is moving the plot forward in some way. Even things that appear to be pure character development come up later on, sometimes in a big way. If you can keep up though it's a gripping story, even made me drop my bag of M&Ms at one point. It avoids the cliche of twists and turns, but it just keeps taking you places you don't expect it to, and even when you do expect it, it still feels like something fresh.

Leo continues his reign of dominating quality cinema with yet another outstanding performance. Seriously, is there anything this bloke can't do? Have a look at the movies his company's been producing. The guy's a god.

Rest of the cast is outstanding, as you'd expect. Real surprise for me, having not seen (500) Days of Summer, was Joseph Gordon-Levitt. For so long I would've just thought of him as "that guy from 3rd Rock". But here's he's fantastic. He's definitely made my List (the list of actors who I'll go see a film purely because they're in it). Others like Ken Watanabe and Marion Cotillard put in the great performances you'd expect. Ellen Page carries on with her rise, very solid here. And I've already admitted that anytime Cillian Murphy was onscreen, I just watched him.

Visual effects are fantastic, but not in a "oh look how good the special effects are" kind of way. Obviously being a movie about dreams there's a lot of crazy stuff happening at times, but an interesting fact is this movie actually has LESS visual effect shots than Batman Begins, Nolan prefers doing as much physically as he can, which really helps not distract from the reality of the story.

Overall, I only had one disappointment about the film. Too much action. It feels like he put in too many action sequences when the story and the characters would've been more than enough. Particularly in the final 20 minutes or so. I would've been much happier if it's just played out with some more character driven stuff, especially with Cillian Murphy's and Leo's characters. One can't help but feel Cillian was under utilised in the final 20 minutes of the film.

Apart from that though, the movie's fantastic. Very Chris Nolan. Now watch it not win a single Oscar.
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All of this :thumbsu:


Ah-mazing!! Definite Film of the Year in my opinion :thumbsu:

I knew after 'The Dark Knight' that Nolan was an exceptional director, but after watching Inception, that point just got driven home further! Such an original story, revolved around a concept that I'm surprised hasn't been used before.

The casting was second to none. I don't think you could assemble a more impressive list of young actors for any other project. Add to that, their roles as sub-conscious information extractors were so believeable, to the point where I left the cinema thinking; 'could this be real?' which was similar to what I felt after watching the Matrix.

More specifically on Di Caprio, I don't think there's a better actor going around at the present time than him; just so believable in every role he plays, while Gordon-Levitt and Page continue their rise (still haven't seen 500 days) :eek:.

The chase scenes, when coupled with incredible scores (that's assumed with Hans Zimmer :)) had my heart racing, whilst giving me the impression that this those particular chase scenes were more important than the ones I'd seen in movies before.

Could easily fork out another $20 and go again.

My only concern was that at times, I couldn't understand what Saito was saying. Not meaning that in a derogatory way, just could understand him at times, which hurt my watching of the film a bit.

Totally left it open for a sequel.
 
Thought the ending saved it, wasnt really getting into it much before that although it really looks to be a movie you need to see more than once. The over-use of the word 'subconscious' when they were doing all the training stuff really shitted me. Can someone tell me who the old wrinkled guy was cause i feel like im missing a major link with him.
 
lemon chicken said:
Thought the ending saved it, wasnt really getting into it much before that although it really looks to be a movie you need to see more than once. The over-use of the word 'subconscious' when they were doing all the training stuff really shitted me. Can someone tell me who the old wrinkled guy was cause i feel like im missing a major link with him.
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yes you are
Ken Watanabe as Saito, the Tourist – a businessman who employs Cobb and assists their mission

so hes the asian dude

kind of a MASSIVE thing to help linking the whole movie up
 
lemon chicken said:
Thought the ending saved it, wasnt really getting into it much before that although it really looks to be a movie you need to see more than once. The over-use of the word 'subconscious' when they were doing all the training stuff really shitted me. Can someone tell me who the old wrinkled guy was cause i feel like im missing a major link with him.
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Highlight to reveal --> It was Saito, the asian character that was shot in the first level of the dream in the car chase/at the warehouse. <--
 
Enjoyed it a lot, though I feel it would have been ever better had they trimmed some of the Cotillard stuff. Am on board with the praise for Gordon-Levitt, he was superb.
 
dr nick said:
The score isn't really something I pay attention to whilst watching these types of movies tbh.
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I don't know how you could avoid it. Out of interest, what kind of movies do you pay attention to the score?

Dirtywhirl said:
Enjoyed it a lot, though I feel it would have been ever better had they trimmed some of the Cotillard stuff. Am on board with the praise for Gordon-Levitt, he was superb.
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Agreed. They should have halved her screen time and it would have had a bigger effect.

And I was kind of disappointed with JGL. Not his performance, which was fine, but the complete lack of development of the character.
 

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flight23 said:
yes you are
Ken Watanabe as Saito, the Tourist – a businessman who employs Cobb and assists their mission

so hes the asian dude

kind of a MASSIVE thing to help linking the whole movie up
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That would of been my guess but in his dream where they have to tip leo into the bath to bring him back out he is only one that is aged and the rest are all the same. When they go back to that same scene in the house at the end of the film and they talk is that still a dream or are they both in limbo land?

I walked out of this film and the first thing i said to the person i saw it with was poor mans Matrix. Nothing has changed my opinion on that. I liken it to the Lost finale, people can call it mind**** or whatever else but bottom line is a lot of it doesnt add up.
 
lemon chicken said:
That would of been my guess but in his dream where they have to tip leo into the bath to bring him back out he is only one that is aged and the rest are all the same. When they go back to that same scene in the house at the end of the film and they talk is that still a dream or are they both in limbo land?

I walked out of this film and the first thing i said to the person i saw it with was poor mans Matrix. Nothing has changed my opinion on that. I liken it to the Lost finale, people can call it mind**** or whatever else but bottom line is a lot of it doesnt add up.
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The film starts with Leo washng up on the beach, then walking in to talk to the old guy (Saito).

It then flashes back to the past, an earlier dream, where Leo's talking to a young Saito with Arthur (Joseph Gordon Levitt)

Not that complicated
 
ManWithNoName said:
The film starts with Leo washng up on the beach, then walking in to talk to the old guy (Saito).

It then flashes back to the past, an earlier dream, where Leo's talking to a young Saito with Arthur (Joseph Gordon Levitt)

Not that complicated
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There is a scene where 2 guards drag leo off the beach and sit him down at a table opposite the asian guy. One is aged the other is not. Why?
 
Great movie, was thinking about it for the rest of the day when i saw it. Really clever and just a great movie, action all the way and you had to think your way through it.

Some of the scenes were spectacular and i am really liking the bloke who was the kid in 3rd rock form the sun. Has done some good roles over the last few years.
 
lemon chicken said:
There is a scene where 2 guards drag leo off the beach and sit him down at a table opposite the asian guy. One is aged the other is not. Why?
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Highlight> Because the asian guy died in the snow level (3rd) and went to limbo. Dicaprio's character dies in the 4th level and goes into limbo. As the different levels work on different timelines, it meant that the asian guy had been in limbo alot longer than dicaprio, hence the different aging. >
 
FRUMPY said:
i think LemonChicken may need to see the movie again or read the wiki page for inception. it explains the movie plot in some details and may answer some queries.
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I actually mentioned limbo a few posts ago yet the experts in this thread didnt say anything about it. Ive read the wiki page and found the critic reviews of this movie to match my opinion on it. Highly over-rated.
 
lemon chicken said:
There is a scene where 2 guards drag leo off the beach and sit him down at a table opposite the asian guy. One is aged the other is not. Why?
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I had the same question. Cobb and Saito were in limbo for the same amount of time. I got this from an awesome website:

Why is Saito so much older than Cobb in the final dream level?
A: It's likely that Cobb and Saito are in limbo for the same amount of time, however Cobb knows he's in limbo, so perhaps this keeps him from aging visibly. Saito on the other hand seems to have forgotten where he is, and so the passage of time (which could have been decades since time runs faster the deeper you go) has more of an affect on him. Similarly, the first time Cobb and Mal end up in limbo they aged because they've forgotten where they really are and accepted it as their reality.
 
I really, really enjoyed. Something that really made you think. Great performances all round too.

There were a few things I was a little confused by though, highlight to reveal ->

The whole 'limbo' place confuses me a little. I was under the impression that limbo was a place that is formed by the 'subconscious' of the person who enters it. So why did Cilian Murphys character end up on the balcony of Leo and his wife apartment? As opposed to Saito who obviously formed his own limbo where he was in the big asian looking building.
And it can also get quite confusing seeing as Leo died in one 'limbo' and then woke up in another one (the one where he meets the very old Saito).
 

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