Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

Is this the best thread ever and the other poxy international thread should be closed

  • Yes because I’m a winner

    Votes: 9 90.0%

  • No because I’m a loser

    Votes: 2 20.0%
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1970crow said:
It would be overturned in the Supreme Court, they ruled it a state issue. Try and catch up.
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No they didn't.

They ruled the constitution right to privacy doesn't extend to a right to abortion. There was no ruling on federal or state powers as to the regulation of abortion. Federal legislation already regulates health care so why wouldn't they be able to legislate on this topic?

Or they could do something like tying Federal funding to banning abortion, which is how they have a national speed limit.

Which also ignores the massive politicisation of the judiciary in America, where blue courts rule in favour of blue governments and vice versa regardless of precedent.
 
MarcusP2 said:
No they didn't.

They ruled the constitution right to privacy doesn't extend to a right to abortion. There was no ruling on federal or state powers as to the regulation of abortion. Federal legislation already regulates health care so why wouldn't they be able to legislate on this topic?
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best case scenerio is every democrat was wrong, Trump merely comes in and governs for the people.
 

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adelaidecrows said:
no it wont! if you think that I have some bridge you might want to buy!
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Dobbs v. Jackson
Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, 597 U.S. 215 (2022), is a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to the federal and state legislatures the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal statutory law.
 
Eagleboy2011 said:
Dobbs v. Jackson
Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, 597 U.S. 215 (2022), is a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to the federal and state legislatures the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal statutory law.
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'Federal legislature ' is right there.
 
1970crow said:
It would be overturned in the Supreme Court, they ruled it a state issue. Try and catch up.
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Just so I can remember this going forward, everyone who is arguing that it's a state issue and not a Federal one, would then be completely opposed to either side trying to introduce any type of Federal abortion bill in the US?
 
relapse said:
Just so I can remember this going forward, everyone who is arguing that it's a state issue and not a Federal one, would then be completely opposed to either side trying to introduce any type of Federal abortion bill in the US?
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Trump has continually said he would not support or sign any type of legislation into law. He has said many a time on the campaign that it is a state issue in his opinion.
The Dems are the ones that ran on the issue.
 
relapse said:
Just so I can remember this going forward, everyone who is arguing that it's a state issue and not a Federal one, would then be completely opposed to either side trying to introduce any type of Federal abortion bill in the US?
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Would seem contrary to the most recent Supreme Court ruling. I think they can try whatever they want, as long as the SCOTUS rules consistently when it’s appealed to there then all is good.
 

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Eagleboy2011 said:
Dobbs v. Jackson
Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, 597 U.S. 215 (2022), is a landmark decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in which the court held that the Constitution of the United States does not confer a right to abortion. The court's decision overruled both Roe v. Wade (1973) and Planned Parenthood v. Casey (1992), returning to the federal and state legislatures the power to regulate any aspect of abortion not protected by federal statutory law.
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We will just have to wait and see.
 
Mutineer said:
Like to show me just one post that supports that bullshit...
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Every single post putting Harris down. It’s not what you say….its how you say it.

Nonetheless, I’ve been busy all day with a conference. To say I’m shattered is an understatement. Can’t imagine how the sixty odd million that voted for her are feeling. I’ve decided though, it’s time to tune out from all things America. I’ve got no control over it, and I’m going to protect my mental health.
 
Eagleboy2011 said:
Trump has continually said he would not support or sign any type of legislation into law. He has said many a time on the campaign that it is a state issue in his opinion.
The Dems are the ones that ran on the issue.
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Trump's never said that as fair as I can see. JD Vance said that.

Trump has said 6 weeks is too short and did originally support the Florida amendment.
 
adelaidecrows said:
We will just have to wait and see.
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Niki Haley said many a time that any legislation would not pass the Senate 2/3 majority.
Harris wanted to destroy the filibuster to try and overcome this although breaking the filibuster has consequences on other issue.

I believe breaking the filibuster would not have full support refer to Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema voting to retain the status quo.
 
Putting aside all discussion of policy and how it effects Australians, if at all, I have seen countless Australian men openly celebrating this result.

In Australia, once a week a woman is killed by a partner, we all know the numbers around gendered violence.

Today, a man who has openly joked about assaulting women, has over 20 separate allegations made against him and to this day makes horrendous comments about women (“I’ll protect them whether they like it or not”) has just become the most powerful person in the world.

If as a man, you’re openly celebrating that fact, I genuinely don’t know how you look the women in your life in the eye tonight.
 
Eagleboy2011 said:
Niki Haley said many a time that any legislation would not pass the Senate 2/3 majority.
Harris wanted to destroy the filibuster to try and overcome this although breaking the filibuster has consequences on other issue.

I believe breaking the filibuster would not have full support refer to Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema voting to retain the status quo.
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Probably your most well written post on the political topic. If you posted like this in the other thread!
 
Eagleboy2011 said:
Meaning Congress needs to vote on it to make it law.
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I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

Overturning Roe V Wade simply took it out of the hands of the Supreme Court where it was protected and untouchable politically.

Either side could now introduce an national abortion bill if it wanted as it's no longer protected through that Supreme Court precedent.
 
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