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[adelaidecrows]

Why the French government has collapsed and what happens next​

France has been plunged into political turmoil following the ouster of its prime minister. Could President Emmanuel Macron


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France is no stranger to revolution, and it’s just had another with the toppling of Prime Minister Michel Barnier.
Here’s what we know, and what happens next?

WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE FRENCH PM?​

The National Assembly lower house moved a motion of no-confidence in Michel Barnier, who has been Prime Minister of a minority government since September.
His ouster makes him the shortest occupant of the Prime Ministership since the modern era of French politics, known as the Fifth Republic, began in 1958.
The motion was pushed by left wing members of the Assembly in opposition to a severe budget Mr Barnier was trying to push through. The motion was supported by 331 members, thanks to crucial backing from Marine Le Pen’s far right.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR EMMANUEL MACRON?​

Members of the far left have called on French President Emmanuel Macron to resign, even though his term is not due to end until 2027.

Mr Macron is expected to give a televised address to the nation on Thursday night local time.

The crisis comes at a time when the President might have expected to ride a wave of popularity, playing host to world dignitaries on Saturday at the official reopening of Paris’s Notre-Dame cathedral after its billion-dollar restoration.

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR FRANCE?​

The political turmoil has been predicted to create chaos and a plunge on the stockmarket. Unions have called on workers to strike on Thursday over budget cuts to services.

Before the no-confidence vote in Mr Barnier, the Interior Minister Bruno Retailleau warned such a move would prompt an immediate financial crisis.

“Don’t think that France is shielded,” he had warned.

An election cannot be called until July 2025 at the earliest.

“Until that point in time, the House will remain as it is; scattered, divided and unable to deliver a majority, meaning government instability is likely to be a key feature of the French political landscape over the next seven months,” Dr Fathi said.

The failure of the National Assembly to pass a 2025 budget will mean 2024 budgetary constraints will continue - an outcome that is likely to enrage farmers and retirees, he said.

Didn't farmers already deliver truck loads of cow shit to french parliament?

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[Crow till I die]

Play the ball not the man. Giving me your opinion is not evidence. It's funny how everytime I ask for some all I get is 0% jokes. Which tells me and everyone else that you have nothing. And if you keep attacking me rather than addressing my points I will start reporting you to mods.

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He didn't go to Jail, he isnt bankrupt, Harris didn;t win the election, Trump got a LOT more than 50million votes which was apparently his ceiling, Florida was NOT in play, Iowa was NOT in play, the Lawfare from a completely corrupt Biden admin DIDN'T work

I mean, its a long long list. Now as for playing the man, harden up, you like to dish it on the TDS thread so as they say, if you are prepared to dish it, you better be prepared to take it.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Of course of course..Apparently in MAGA world only GOP wins are legitimate.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Of course of course..Apparently in MAGA world only GOP wins are legitimate.

Yet no court has stopped it.

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[Crow till I die]

Of course of course..Apparently in MAGA world only GOP wins are legitimate.

No ID, ballots accepted long after election day, counting ballots a month after the election and when the democrat just nudges in front, miraculously the vote counting stops and the democrat is declared the winner. Which party controls the elections in California?

 

[Vassp]

Question. If I am a US business and I order electrical items made in china at $50 per item. Trump wants to do a blanket 30% tariffs on all goods made in China.

Who pays the bill?

A) china
B) the retailer
C) the consumer

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seriously dude, this is not your area of expertise is it ?

but ill go, that depends......
1) china because they need the business and will ware the cost, they take a hit so youre not out of pocket.
2) You ware the cost because you have enough to cover it.
3) you pay extra and pass it onto the consumer.

There is no right answer. But you shouldve known that. AND YOU DIDNT.

 

[Cap]

Not sure if anyone saw this.

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson shot dead in Midtown Manhattan, masked gunman at large

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot near a Midtown Manhattan hotel in a potentially targeted shooting early Wednesday, according to police.

abcnews.go.com

So this guy is the CEO of a healthcare fund that is well known for turning down claims

Thing is, no one apparently cares. Don't get me wrong, police are investigating but the average American is making jokes about it and the company he belongs to still held the meeting he was arriving at, even as he lay dead outside.

Its incredible really. I cant imagine being killed the publicly and no one really caring.

 

[adelaidecrows]

No ID, ballots accepted long after election day, counting ballots a month after the election and when the democrat just nudges in front, miraculously the vote counting stops and the democrat is declared the winner. Which party controls the elections in California?

Great narrative

Read and you might learn something

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/01/nx-s1-5206666/california-is-still-counting-votes-from-the-2024-election-heres-whats-left

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[adelaidecrows]

seriously dude, this is not your area of expertise is it ?

but ill go, that depends......
1) china because they need the business and will ware the cost, they take a hit so youre not out of pocket.
2) You ware the cost because you have enough to cover it.
3) you pay extra and pass it onto the consumer.

There is no right answer. But you shouldve known that. AND YOU DIDNT.

Wrong. Tariffs are paid at the point of customs which is paid for by the business importing them who will obviously pass on the costs to the consumer. China and its businesses do not and never will see a bill. They just lose business if orders stop coming in.


So you admit consumers see higher prices. Then how does this bring down the cost of living.

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[adelaidecrows]

Not sure if anyone saw this.

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson shot dead in Midtown Manhattan, masked gunman at large

UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson was shot near a Midtown Manhattan hotel in a potentially targeted shooting early Wednesday, according to police.

abcnews.go.com

So this guy is the CEO of a healthcare fund that is well known for turning down claims

Thing is, no one apparently cares. Don't get me wrong, police are investigating but the average American is making jokes about it and the company he belongs to still held the meeting he was arriving at, even as he lay dead outside.

Its incredible really. I cant imagine being killed the publicly and no one really caring.View attachment 2182457View attachment 2182458View attachment 2182456

Well it's hard to sympathise with the company and people who work for it when their entire business model is to screw their clients on behalf of their shareholders. I of course feel sorry for their families but at the same time if you let your morals slip that far and get killed because you screwed over someone then it's hard to not think they brought it on themselves.

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[Vassp]

Wrong. Tariffs are paid at the point of customs which is paid for by the business importing them who will obviously pass on the costs to the consumer. China and its businesses do not and never will see a bill. They just lose business if orders stop coming in.


So you admit consumers see higher prices. Then how does this bring down the cost of living.

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um.....i dont know what to tell you........did you read my post at all ?


If im a chinese maker of tvs, youre my customer, we exchange emails. you are worried what tarrifs will do to your bottom line or sales, I want to move more TVs, I say to you ill make a deal, Ill lower your price and you move TVs. Business 101.

Anything else sir?

 

[adelaidecrows]

um.....i dont know what to tell you........did you read my post at all ?


If im a chinese maker of tvs, youre my customer, we exchange emails. you are worried what tarrifs will do to your bottom line or sales, I want to move more TVs, I say to you ill make a deal, Ill lower your price and you move TVs. Business 101.

Anything else sir?

Ahh ok, I thought you meant they received a bill.

Ok but this won't work.

The idea of Tariffs is to increase prices so if prices don't hit the projection the Tariffs will further increase. The idea is to give USA businesses an economic advantage.

But this is the issue. Demand and supply is a thing. If local manufacturers all of a sudden get an increase in orders miles above projection then prices go up. So basically as all the comic experts have said, prices will only be driven up which in turn will increase cost of living.

Jury is out though. Trump has 4 years. It maybe 2 years of increased prices but as the economic conditions shift and it balances out prices may come down. So it could merely be a short term pain thing for long term gain. So I'm holding judgement but things will get more expensive initially.

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[Vassp]

Ahh ok, I thought you meant they received a bill.

Ok but this won't work.

The idea of Tariffs is to increase prices so if prices don't hit the projection the Tariffs will further increase. The idea is to give USA businesses an economic advantage.

But this is the issue. Demand and supply is a thing. If local manufacturers all of a sudden get an increase in orders miles above projection then prices go up. So basically as all the comic experts have said, prices will only be driven up which in turn will increase cost of living.

Jury is out though. Trump has 4 years. It maybe 2 years of increased prices but as the economic conditions shift and it balances out prices may come down. So it could merely be a short term pain thing for long term gain. So I'm holding judgement but things will get more expensive initially.

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There is no cut and dry solution. l agree on lets see how it all pans out.

 

[adelaidecrows]

There is no cut and dry solution. l agree on lets see how it all pans out.

Economic decisions take a few years to impact in the desired way. So it's very much going to be a wait and see.

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[OneGreatClub]

Deluded low info voters

 

[Crow till I die]

Deluded low info voters

So you are now slinging off at those on struggle street and the working class...what a top person you are

 

[Crow till I die]

Hmm..this evil ghoul has made millions from insider trading

 

[adelaidecrows]

So you are now slinging off at those on struggle street and the working class...what a top person you are

No she is highlighting that people jumped on the protest vote over high cost of living without doing their due diligence on Trump's policy's. I'm not arguing Trump is the right or wrong choice here. But it's been established his current economic plan will starve social security of funds and what he will end ACA. And the Tariff ideas will at the very least increase prices in the short term as will the deportation of working illegal migrants.

That's the argument people are making. Both sides policy's weren't great and Harris never sold her policy's well either. But people vote with their wallets. Cost of living has almost certainly cost Albo the election in Australia already. Protest votes are a thing. People just need to do it for the right reasons though and understand the candidates.

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[Slippery Pete]

Of course of course..Apparently in MAGA world only GOP wins are legitimate.

Quite frankly when you’re still “counting” votes a month after the election, you thoroughly deserve to be accused of cheating.

It’s a disgrace, and you know it.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Quite frankly when you’re still “counting” votes a month after the election, you thoroughly deserve to be accused of cheating.

It’s a disgrace, and you know it.

https://www.npr.org/2024/12/01/nx-s1-5206666/california-is-still-counting-votes-from-the-2024-election-heres-whats-left

This is why votes are still being counted.

Personally I don't like it. I think two weeks should be enough time given maximum. Can't have this a month on. California should allocate more resources to make sure it's done in a timely manner.

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[Slippery Pete]

Oh this is a good one. You don't know how tariffs work either. [emoji23]

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I see you’ve downloaded your latest talking points from MSNBC.

 

[adelaidecrows]

I see you’ve downloaded your latest talking points from MSNBC.

Hold your wad fella, read the whole discussion.

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[adelaidecrows]

Pete Hegseth looks set to have his nomination as defense secretary thrown out. Which in my view would be more beneficial for Trump. Defence secretary is no small position and someone who knows the ins and outs of that department and has the respect of the military would probably be a better choice. This saves time because it's likely Hegseth would have been fired anyway for being unable to control his department.

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[Slippery Pete]

I already stated elsewhere california has no voter id, accepts votes a full week after the election, automatically mails ballots to everyone regardless of whether they requested one, signature verification is not enforced and election officials only need take the word of a person regarding the alleged date of their ballot envelope. Its a fraudsters dream and its run by democrats.

Stealing elections is all democrats know

How utterly deluded do you have to be to believe this is all done for pure and innocent reasons?

 

[Crow till I die]

No she is highlighting that people jumped on the protest vote over high cost of living without doing their due diligence on Trump's policy's. I'm not arguing Trump is the right or wrong choice here. But it's been established his current economic plan will starve social security of funds and what he will end ACA. And the Tariff ideas will at the very least increase prices in the short term as will the deportation of working illegal migrants.

That's the argument people are making. Both sides policy's weren't great and Harris never sold her policy's well either. But people vote with their wallets. Cost of living has almost certainly cost Albo the election in Australia already. Protest votes are a thing. People just need to do it for the right reasons though and understand the candidates.

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You are only picking a zillionth of the whole picture. Trump also plans to make America energy independent again and that will lower production costs. He has pledged to deport millions of illegal aliens with the first priority the criminals so communities will be safer. He is getting rid of tax on tips helping millions of low paid workers etc.