Opinion INTERNATIONAL Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 5

[OneGreatClub]

Must be the modern version of KKK attire

 

[adelaidecrows]

It has now been revealed that Mexico is refusing point blank to let US military aircraft just land and drop off illegal immigrants. No doubt in a response to Trumps bully boy tactics. Someone should tell him diplomacy is a thing and pissing off everyone else like an arrogant and entitled child will see the USA stand alone and the USA will be much poorer for it. Cant just threaten everyone elses economies for no reason and without actually trying to reach diplomatic solutions.

If Trump day one approached Mexico, said look we have a joint border issue, we should work together to end it once and for all, this will include deporting Mexican citizens, Mexico look like they would have more than come to the party. The Tariff threat has all but backfired as both Canada and Mexico have told Trump to shove it up his date!.

How arrogant and entitled do you have to be that you think no other country matters. What a buffoon.

 

[OneGreatClub]

It has now been revealed that Mexico is refusing point blank to let US military aircraft just land and drop off illegal immigrants. No doubt in a response to Trumps bully boy tactics. Someone should tell him diplomacy is a thing and pissing off everyone else like an arrogant and entitled child will see the USA stand alone and the USA will be much poorer for it. Cant just threaten everyone elses economies for no reason and without actually trying to reach diplomatic solutions.

If Trump day one approached Mexico, said look we have a joint border issue, we should work together to end it once and for all, this will include deporting Mexican citizens, Mexico look like they would have more than come to the party. The Tariff threat has all but backfired as both Canada and Mexico have told Trump to shove it up his date!.

How arrogant and entitled do you have to be that you think no other country matters. What a buffoon.

Colombia too

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Colombia too

Appears Columbia will accept immigrants returning unshackled in passenger flights, but not shackled in military flights.

Seems a reasonable request to me...

Trump hits Colombia with tariffs after deportation flights turned back

The US president has ordered emergency tariffs and a travel ban on officials after a decision by Colombian President Gustavo Petro to reject flights of repatriated migrants from America.

www.abc.net.au

 

[kirky]

It has now been revealed that Mexico is refusing point blank to let US military aircraft just land and drop off illegal immigrants. No doubt in a response to Trumps bully boy tactics. Someone should tell him diplomacy is a thing and pissing off everyone else like an arrogant and entitled child will see the USA stand alone and the USA will be much poorer for it. Cant just threaten everyone elses economies for no reason and without actually trying to reach diplomatic solutions.

If Trump day one approached Mexico, said look we have a joint border issue, we should work together to end it once and for all, this will include deporting Mexican citizens, Mexico look like they would have more than come to the party. The Tariff threat has all but backfired as both Canada and Mexico have told Trump to shove it up his date!.

How arrogant and entitled do you have to be that you think no other country matters. What a buffoon.

Trump has never known diplomacy - he does the Presidency like he did with his business dealings which is “my way or don’t bother”.

And I thought a scholar said he has the intellect of a 3rd grader not 6th grader.

 

[kirky]

Appears Columbia will accept immigrants returning unshackled in passenger flights, but not shackled in military flights.

Seems a reasonable request to me...

Trump hits Colombia with tariffs after deportation flights turned back

The US president has ordered emergency tariffs and a travel ban on officials after a decision by Colombian President Gustavo Petro to reject flights of repatriated migrants from America.

www.abc.net.au

What goods do Colombia send to the USA? Drugs

Actually it is minerals, coffee etc.

Trump has got zero idea how tariffs work.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Unfortunately predictable that both sides are not strictly following the ceasefire agreement & some residents attempting to return home are being killed.

Trump says Egypt, Jordan should take in Palestinians from Gaza

The president floated the plan to "just clean out" the Palestinian enclave, which has been hard hit by 15 months of conflict between Israel and Hamas.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What goods do Colombia send to the USA? Drugs

Actually it is minerals, coffee etc.

Trump has got zero idea how tariffs work.

Officially Oil 40%, then coffee... so will the USA now go elsewhere for these?

Tariffs won't apply to the coke... so I'm sure it will be still readily available.

 

[footy4ever]

Trump hits Colombia with tariffs after deportation flights turned back

The US president has ordered emergency tariffs and a travel ban on officials after a decision by Colombian President Gustavo Petro to reject flights of repatriated migrants from America.

www.abc.net.au

Donald won't like this, but poor President Petro hasn't realised ol' Don only lives by one mantra - he who has the most money has the god-given right to win at everything, regardless.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Trump hits Colombia with tariffs after deportation flights turned back

The US president has ordered emergency tariffs and a travel ban on officials after a decision by Colombian President Gustavo Petro to reject flights of repatriated migrants from America.

www.abc.net.au

Donald won't like this, but poor President Petro hasn't realised ol' Don only lives by one mantra - he who has the most money has the god-given right to win at everything, regardless.

Trump needs to understand that it's best to negotiate with the other party first. Columbia will accept back citizens unshackled on normal flights.

Appears there have been actual negotiations with Panama...

Panama starts returning migrants on US-funded flights

The United States is paying for flights taking US-bound migrants back to South America.

www.bbc.com

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Appears Columbia will accept immigrants returning unshackled in passenger flights, but not shackled in military flights.

Seems a reasonable request to me...

Trump hits Colombia with tariffs after deportation flights turned back

The US president has ordered emergency tariffs and a travel ban on officials after a decision by Colombian President Gustavo Petro to reject flights of repatriated migrants from America.

www.abc.net.au

Here you go Mutineer

Columbia will accept their illegals if returned humanely. Do you have a problem with this?

 

[Mutineer]

Here you go Mutineer

Columbia will accept their illegals if returned humanely. Do you have a problem with this?

I'm still waiting for you to show me these inhumane practices...it is not inhumane to shackle a prisoner which these illegals are.

 

[ringo200]

Hopefully there is an exemption declared for this program which was implemented by Bush and has been a huge success.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and-soda/2025/01/25/g-s1-44762/pepfar-trump-hiv-foreign-aid

Even if it is just the 90 days the effects could be long term.

 

[PeterSalt]

It's almost like some people think these deportation flights are something new?

What changed?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I'm still waiting for you to show me these inhumane practices...it is not inhumane to shackle a prisoner which these illegals are.

Most Western countries use humane practices Bicks... using shackles is not humane!

Returning illegal immigrants – common standards and procedures | EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

 

[Cap]

Here you go Mutineer

Columbia will accept their illegals if returned humanely. Do you have a problem with this?

You have to consider them human first.

 

[Cap]

Officially Oil 40%, then coffee... so will the USA now go elsewhere for these?

Tariffs won't apply to the coke... so I'm sure it will be still readily available.

Given how badly they make coffee, I'm sure the alternatives will be better once they can't afford the real thing.

Oil is interesting, especially when ole Donny is asking OPEC to lower prices

 

[Mutineer]

Most Western countries use humane practices Bicks... using shackles is not humane!

Returning illegal immigrants – common standards and procedures | EUR-Lex

eur-lex.europa.eu

Are legcuffs illegal in Australia now, pretty sure I've seen prisoners transported with both legcuffs and handcuffs in more recent times?

You do realise legcuffs is what they're called in Oz unless I'm mistaken.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Are legcuffs illegal in Australia now, pretty sure I've seen prisoners transported with both legcuffs and handcuffs in more recent times?

You do realise legcuffs is what they're called in Oz unless I'm mistaken.

Most illegals are not prisoners Bicks.

A concept you are struggling with.

Australia & most Western countries just return the illegals unshackled... the humane way.

 

[PeterSalt]

This is quite an interesting thread .. you should still be able to read it regardless of whether or not you have a twitter account

Provides a bit of a comparison on immigration from 2017-2021 and then 2021-2025

Worth listening to the brief testimony as well (it's only a few minutes)


Heads up - this is from the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank

 

[kirky]

I'm still waiting for you to show me these inhumane practices...it is not inhumane to shackle a prisoner which these illegals are.

Yeh, what a surprise.

Looking forward to businesses in US complaining about lack of a cheap labour force.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Appears Columbia will accept immigrants returning unshackled in passenger flights, but not shackled in military flights.

Seems a reasonable request to me...

Trump hits Colombia with tariffs after deportation flights turned back

The US president has ordered emergency tariffs and a travel ban on officials after a decision by Colombian President Gustavo Petro to reject flights of repatriated migrants from America.

www.abc.net.au

Yes

This is quite an interesting thread .. you should still be able to read it regardless of whether or not you have a twitter account

Provides a bit of a comparison on immigration from 2017-2021 and then 2021-2025

Worth listening to the brief testimony as well (it's only a few minutes)


Heads up - this is from the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank

Thanks. Excellent explanation.
Shame it will only take one comment from Trump about Cats and Dogs and MAGA will compliantly disregard these statistics and facts.
In fact I dare even one of our resident MAGAS to watch this to the end but I doubt they will even bother to click on it.

And the problem with the Dems is they don’t have someone out there day after day to engage entertain and speak the truth to the hordes, so Trump’s BS is all they hear.

 

[kirky]

Most illegals are not prisoners Bicks.

A concept you are struggling with.

Australia & most Western countries just return the illegals unshackled... the humane way.

You have to remember he thinks thru very simplistically.

Why the need to shackle them and not let them go to the toilet - hardly ideal.

 

[kirky]

Unfortunately predictable that both sides are not strictly following the ceasefire agreement & some residents attempting to return home are being killed.

Trump says Egypt, Jordan should take in Palestinians from Gaza

The president floated the plan to "just clean out" the Palestinian enclave, which has been hard hit by 15 months of conflict between Israel and Hamas.

www.abc.net.au

The playbook is so obvious here - Israel to have them transferred to either Egypt or Jordan then never let them back to their home once Gaza is rebuilt. Both Egypt and Jordan have rejected it out of hand and rightfully so.

The obvious answer is a two state solution but Israel will never let that occur.

 

[kirky]

Officially Oil 40%, then coffee... so will the USA now go elsewhere for these?

Tariffs won't apply to the coke... so I'm sure it will be still readily available.

Got to say that having a coffee either in a US diner, Starbucks or Dunkin Donuts is bloody woeful. Not sure what they do but it is bloody tastes foul.