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Coach Is Clarkson a supercoach or did he just get lucky at the Hawks? Has his time come and gone?
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Which is bullshit. Clarkson took the role at the back end of 2022. He then spent an entire preseason planning and setting up the side, and then coached the first 9 rounds of 2023 before taking a break.
The narrative that 2024 was his first year in charge is utter bullshit.
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Oh I guess stress and mental health and its effect on performance don’t count if it’s the coach. Got it.
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Just because he took a break midway through 2023 doesn’t mean that 2024 was his first year as coach. Hope this helps.Oh I guess stress and mental health and its effect on performance don’t count if it’s the coach. Got it.
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Seriously just stop. You know what’s being said and the rationale behind it. Legit just stop. Hope this helps.
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No, I will not stop calling out the bullshit spin that this was his first year as coach, when it simply was not.
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Oh ok…..here - it was his SECOND year as coach but his FIRST PROPER UNINTERRUPTED year being able to fully concentrate on being a coach at a different club. Whether clarko can still coach at the level remains to be seen, but for you to carry on as if he was able to properly focus on coaching in 2023 is in fact the bullshit spin. Happy now? But you already know all this.
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straight sets in 2018 too
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It took fagan 3 seasons to get the lions playing well - I would give Clarko 1 more season - if north finish bottom 4 in 2025 or don't improve their % markedly then start having the conversations.
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Yep. Carl Peterson and Cyril Rioli aren't liars.
The first question in the thread title can be true on both counts.
Clarko is a super coach but he also had generational players. There's always a mixture of luck and skill and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise.
Has his time come and gone? That can only be judged once he's had more time with us - we have been generationally crap and it is not a quick fix.
Clarko is a super coach but he also had generational players. There's always a mixture of luck and skill and it would be foolish to pretend otherwise.
Has his time come and gone? That can only be judged once he's had more time with us - we have been generationally crap and it is not a quick fix.
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Needs about 3 full years to see what he can do. First year was a write off due to the racism scandal. Revisit at the end of 2026
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It’s obviously not his first year as coach, but a lot of people are prepared to write 2023 off and not hold him accountable for it because there were so many distractions.
Having said that, I absolutely expected a lot more from Clarkson this year.
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I thought that Chris Fagan had the Lions playing much better and to a game plan while rebuilding the side in 2017 and 2018 even though they finished 5-17 both years, before the Lions roared up the ladder in 2019 and have remained a finals team ever since.
North have struggled for years and things only seemed to get worse in 2024. Nothing I saw this year convinced me that the Kangaroos have a bright future either short or long term. Clarkson is a great coach but if the team doesn't improve in 2025, then there will be more and more question marks hanging over the club.
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Clarko won flags after the team was robbed of one of the games greatest players by the AFL. At least Geelong got something for GAJ.
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Clarko came in when the list already had hodge and Mitchell and then in his first draft got frankin Roughead and Lewis so that certainty helped.
He was ahead of the game with tactics in 08 and was a brilliant flag win. He quickly got found out and was a very frustrating few years leading up to 2011 prelim loss and 2012 grand final loss. At this point it had been a slightly disappointing period with the talented list.
Contray to popular belief hawks used trading not free agency to cover glaring deficiencies in the list bringing in Gibson, Lake and McEvoy and X factor Burgoyne. This with a fiercely determined senior playing group who had learnt from past disappointments led to the 3 peat.
Had we not lost 2012 that may have been the only flag we won but everyone was so determined to not let 2012 and learn the lessons of 08 in terms of not baking up that it spurred on the dynasty.
So in summary early days talent but mainly Clarkos nous then Clarko trading for specific holes and the whole club mainly led by the senior players learning the lessons from the past.
He was ahead of the game with tactics in 08 and was a brilliant flag win. He quickly got found out and was a very frustrating few years leading up to 2011 prelim loss and 2012 grand final loss. At this point it had been a slightly disappointing period with the talented list.
Contray to popular belief hawks used trading not free agency to cover glaring deficiencies in the list bringing in Gibson, Lake and McEvoy and X factor Burgoyne. This with a fiercely determined senior playing group who had learnt from past disappointments led to the 3 peat.
Had we not lost 2012 that may have been the only flag we won but everyone was so determined to not let 2012 and learn the lessons of 08 in terms of not baking up that it spurred on the dynasty.
So in summary early days talent but mainly Clarkos nous then Clarko trading for specific holes and the whole club mainly led by the senior players learning the lessons from the past.
Lucky.
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