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Expansion is everyone forgeting..... Newcastle
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Ancient and Loyal
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So, the BDL isn't stronger than every RL comp in Oz outside the heartland then? Cheers.
ROFLMAO. The VRL is filled to the brim with Islanders and Kiwis. It's the reason the Warriors are traditionally one of the Storms biggest draws...
I also suggest you look where the majority of Australian Rules support comes from in NSW and QLD. It certainly isn't natives...
They've averaged over 20k once this century.
You may well be right in that they are the hunter region - but they still don't draw big crowds through the gates. They're probably like Sydney people - they won't support their local sports teams like other cities do.
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That's the single biggest problem with this place. Blatant lies. No wonder the code gets a hammering on LU.
I've never heard of Australian football called that before. It sometimes gets called "Victorian" in a throwback to pre-colonial times. But that seems to be used as a perjorative term these days. Thankfully it wasn't "a good old slice of Bigotry" as Ancient & Loyal might put it.
ChrisFooty
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I think we just just worry about GC, west sydney and tassie before we start thinking about the hunter. Give it at least 10 years before we start thinking about newy.
But you should be afraid rugby heads. Soccer and aussie rules is coming....
I think we should give it at least 100 years before we can seriosly consider placing an AFL side in Newcastle.
Rugby league will always be strong in this country. Both Australian rules and football will continue to grow, but they will never seriosly dint rugby league. Rugby Union might be the biggest loser here.
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Apart from the OP, one of the most deluded posts I've seen in a while, esp. the second paragraph. Whatever substance you're on, brother, please stop using
*ahem* Crowds, TV revenue, clubs in every major State, premierships won by every major State, media coverage on merit (not via protected ownership, ie: News Ltd).....
Brando, the Swans had bottomed out in the early 90s.
You forget that in their 5th year they drew regular season crowds of 40,000 - the Swans have always had a very high profile.
The Storm has only ever had 2 crowds over 20,000. The interest is just not there.
The Swans have been the biggest sporting club in NSW for over 10 years.
The Storm will never make the top 10 here.
NRL is simply way too Sydney - cheerleader & explosions are distractions not part of sport.
That is why I am surprised that the Swans & Lions are doing so well - AFl is very Melbourne.
But then again AR is a superior product
You forget that in their 5th year they drew regular season crowds of 40,000 - the Swans have always had a very high profile.
The Storm has only ever had 2 crowds over 20,000. The interest is just not there.
The Swans have been the biggest sporting club in NSW for over 10 years.
The Storm will never make the top 10 here.
NRL is simply way too Sydney - cheerleader & explosions are distractions not part of sport.
That is why I am surprised that the Swans & Lions are doing so well - AFl is very Melbourne.
But then again AR is a superior product
Have you been to a Storm game? I have. I love RL. But to say that has crept even slightly onto the radar for people without a NSW / Qld or NZ connection is simply untrue.
The biggest Storm home & away crowds are about 15,000. There might be 1000 fans without the NSW/Qld/NZ background if you are lucky.
Are you going to tell me that most of the 60,000 that watch the Swans at Telstra Stadium are from Vic/Sa/Wa?
Good luck to the Storm but in a town where 2-300,000 watch professional football each week, 11K is not a lot.
The Swans on the other hand, have outdrawn the all Syndey NRL games put together.
The biggest Storm home & away crowds are about 15,000. There might be 1000 fans without the NSW/Qld/NZ background if you are lucky.
Are you going to tell me that most of the 60,000 that watch the Swans at Telstra Stadium are from Vic/Sa/Wa?
Good luck to the Storm but in a town where 2-300,000 watch professional football each week, 11K is not a lot.
The Swans on the other hand, have outdrawn the all Syndey NRL games put together.
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Not only that, it's one-dimensional and lacks any great skill. Like someone else said, rl lovers fully deserve what they have. Meh...
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At least you had the guts to admit you were FOS.
BrendotheJet
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The Swans 5th year crowds did not eclipse 40k. Not even once, so much as regularly.
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/vn_scg.html
The Swans have not always had great support and even now their season average is some 10k people behind the AFL average.
2007 - 25,222
2006 - 30,402
2005 - 28,733
2004 - 26,880
2003 - 26,423
2002 - 19,955
2001 -27,159
2000 - 22,390
1999 - 26,767
1998 -31,549
1997 -35,818
1996 -24,574
1995 -15,976
1994 - 9,814
1993 -9,423
1992 - 9,963
1991 -11,140
1990 -9,275
1989 -12,317
1988 - 12,323
1987 -21,987
1986 -25,847
1985 -10,137
1984 -12,495
1983 -12,015
1982 - 15,993
it doesn't make for pretty reading for Swans fans. in 25 years they've managed to get from 15k to 25k. The bandwagonners flee when the swans don't win and a year outside the top 8 will see the crowds plummit.
The swans are far from the biggest sporting club in NSW. The are the only AFL team, giving them a corner on the market for AFL fans, but the biggest club - lol.
Walk up to a sydney sider and ask them who they follow in the footy and they will tell you an NRL team. it is a fact.
The Swans and the Lions are harldy doing well when you consider that they have had 6 grand finals between them in the last 10 years, coverage guaranteed on network 10 and 7 every game and salary cap concessions to help them out.
Just face facts that AFL is not as well liked in NSW and QLD as you muppets would have you believe.
Now if you could just point out the thread where NRL fans discuss placing a team in Geelong, or a second team in Melbourne, or a team in hobart or any other AFL heartland you'd have some clout, but you can't.
bigfooty is full of people who think that there should be an AFl team in every city in every state whether its warranted or not.
The very thought of an AFL team in Newcastle is stupid. It won't ever happen, ever. The Gold Coast will be financial suicide for the AFl as will western sydney. the AFl is trying to combat the renewed popularity of RL after the fall out from the super league war. We have bounced back and expanded again, and much like the early 90s the AFL is scared.
What it lacks in skill, it makes up for in tactics.
I followed the link and blow me down but the figure for 2007 only contains the SCG games which had a reduced capacity due to redevelopment works.
The three games at the Olympic stadium where the Swans drew 60,000 have been omitted!
Oh dear
Revenue, and crowds would suggest otherwise. which is better way to guage support than asking your RL mates who they support.
What about a team in perth it's on the RL board if you want to take a look. the 17K odd that watch the NRL game live on TV in Perth each week, suggest that the game is just ready to explode.
who is that's scared again
Angry_Eel
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lol man you have no idea what you're going on about. Its pretty obvious you've never seen a game of Rugby(either code).
I dont think anyone is forgetting Newcastle, its just a silly idea.
The last thing the AFL needs is more suburban / small town clubs. New clubs will only be admitted if they bring with them a potential million plus supporters and the financial gravity that a group like that provides.
The last thing the AFL needs is more suburban / small town clubs. New clubs will only be admitted if they bring with them a potential million plus supporters and the financial gravity that a group like that provides.
In the Capper era 86 or 87, the Swans did draw some great crowds. I don't have the details but there were sold out games V Hawks & Blues at least. 35K? 40K? Not sure.
So if the Swans are not the biggest club in NSW then who is?
They have the most members & biggest crowds.
Canterbury?
St George?
I live in Melbourne so I don't know.
Fill me in.
So if the Swans are not the biggest club in NSW then who is?
They have the most members & biggest crowds.
Canterbury?
St George?
I live in Melbourne so I don't know.
Fill me in.
RussellEbertHandball
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I think you'd better look at this link.
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/swans.html
This is the correct swans figures given they have played 3 matches per year at the <insert sponsors name> Stadium since the 2002 season. In fact in 2007 the swans drew 60,000 at each of their 3 games there taking their average to 35,632, ten thousand above what you said and about 1,100 below the AFL average. The swans have a clasue in their contract with the SCG and the stadium which says that if they average over 60,000 for their games at the stadium they get a fourth game there the next year. This will happen in 2008 for the first time!!
Plus the 1999 and 2000 SCG average is affected by 3 kangaroos neutral "home" games plus a "home" game against the swans at the SCG in both seasons. In 2001 and 2002 both Melbourne and the Bulldogs played "home" games against the swans there, and 2003 to 2006 the Bulldogs played a "home" game at the SCG. Because swans season ticket holders didn't automatically have rights they didn't all turn up to this "away" game.
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Haha, where I live I see plenty of rugby league and union.
I know the rules, know what the on-field positions are and still ... my opinion on the English games remain: They're both crap and inferior!
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they play at a ground where legally they can only accomodate 15,500 people (was in the hun about 6 months ago). Their two crowd of over 20,000 have been at the Telstra Dome. To say intrest is not there is a little harsh, Their just is no ground to accomodate a large NRL crowd in VIC ATM.
also no interest in NRL? what about the 50,000 people who turned out for their SoO clash?
I guess you would think that, you were the one to suggest Newcastle in the first place
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Everything you say from now on can not be taken seriously.
Maybe you should leave ... and go and live in Newcastle.
Angry_Eel
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Haha, where I live I see plenty of rugby league and union.
I know the rules, know what the on-field positions are and still ... my opinion on the English games remain: They're both crap and inferior!
You should say 'all' instead of Both, incase you didn't know Cricket wasn't invented in Wangaratta. Without English games the world would lack a lot of good sports.
