Analysis Is Leppa the Right Man for the Job?

[Big Lion]

If its true we don't have a full time sports psych on board, then Leppa has no chance. I reckon so much of the game is played between the ears. No coincidence that Jauncey was involved during the early 2000's

Didn't the review they did a year or so ago come up with the fact we needed to spend more on the coaching department, including adding a full time psych coach. Didn't they also say Voss was let down by a under done footy department. So much time has passed yet in a lot of ways we still find ourselves in much the same position as Voss's last season.

 

[Layland_brother]

Ok, having a bit of a laugh now. Well maybe. Have we made two similar mistakes with our past two coaches. Yes both legends of our club with little to no experience at coaching against battle hardened and savvy opposition coaches.

Although the problem may lay way deeper. Both are red heads, or "rangas" as some like to say. And let's face it no one can take a ranga seriously. So I do understand the players being confused, wanting to go home etc, hell I would too.

P.s, just out of interest can anyone name a successful coach/manager of any sport who is yes. A "ranga".

 

[Fatcat08]

Ok, having a bit of a laugh now. Well maybe. Have we made two similar mistakes with our past two coaches. Yes both legends of our club with little to no experience at coaching against battle hardened and savvy opposition coaches.

Although the problem may lay way deeper. Both are red heads, or "rangas" as some like to say. And let's face it no one can take a ranga seriously. So I do understand the players being confused, wanting to go home etc, hell I would too.

P.s, just out of interest can anyone name a successful coach/manager of any sport who is yes. A "ranga".

It's funny how leppa gets bundled with Voss in this whole no experience coaching thing. He did have 4 more years as an assistant than both the Scott brothers.

As for a coach "red" auerbach coaches 8 straight NBA titles with the Boston Celtics.

 

[CarterS]

Ok, having a bit of a laugh now. Well maybe. Have we made two similar mistakes with our past two coaches. Yes both legends of our club with little to no experience at coaching against battle hardened and savvy opposition coaches.

Although the problem may lay way deeper. Both are red heads, or "rangas" as some like to say. And let's face it no one can take a ranga seriously. So I do understand the players being confused, wanting to go home etc, hell I would too.

P.s, just out of interest can anyone name a successful coach/manager of any sport who is yes. A "ranga".

understand this is satire but still uncalled for!

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

The real problem is highlighted by the fac that our reserves are hopeless. It shows that our bottom 25 players are very unlikely to ever make it as AFL players so any chances of significant improvement can only come via the draft. That means time. That means years of waiting; if we have competent recruiting staff.

That is a thought that worries me. Leppa has a terrible list to work with and while we all hope that may be a function of the age of the players we have, I worry that we are only a year or maybe two years younger that most of the teams. This means the age difference may not be significant at all.

The problems we have predate Leppa but he has to shoulder some responsibilities even at this stage.

If we lose to the Bombers later this year, our only realistic chance for the rest of the season, can he survive?

Finally has everyone noticed that our percentage is a 'mile' behind everyone else (apart from the player stripped Bombers).

 

[Jivlain]

The real problem is highlighted by the fac that our reserves are hopeless. It shows that our bottom 25 players are very unlikely to ever make it as AFL players so any chances of significant improvement can only come via the draft. That means time. That means years of waiting; if we have competent recruiting staff.

That is a thought that worries me. Leppa has a terrible list to work with and while we all hope that may be a function of the age of the players we have, I worry that we are only a year or maybe two years younger that most of the teams. This means the age difference may not be significant at all.

The problems we have predate Leppa but he has to shoulder some responsibilities even at this stage.

If we lose to the Bombers later this year, our only realistic chance for the rest of the season, can he survive?

Finally has everyone noticed that our percentage is a 'mile' behind everyone else (apart from the player stripped Bombers).

I think our performance in the reserves is a bit deceptive as to where our players are. What our NEAFL team is at the moment is seriously unbalanced. We've been using the back half of our list to run a Brisbane's Next Top KPP competition. We had, generously, five listed midfielders in the NEAFL on the weekend, which, if anything, is high for this season. The rest being made up of academy kids and guys who didn't get picked in their own team.

So we've got some decent KPPs developing, and they always take time. Midfielders are quicker and we'll be using our next couple drafts to get them in. Yeah a couple years, but it will actually come along once we start getting some midfielders into the side.

 

[Kevvo]

I think our performance in the reserves is a bit deceptive as to where our players are. What our NEAFL team is at the moment is seriously unbalanced. We've been using the back half of our list to run a Brisbane's Next Top KPP competition. We had, generously, five listed midfielders in the NEAFL on the weekend, which, if anything, is high for this season. The rest being made up of academy kids and guys who didn't get picked in their own team.

So we've got some decent KPPs developing, and they always take time. Midfielders are quicker and we'll be using our next couple drafts to get them in. Yeah a couple years, but it will actually come along once we start getting some midfielders into the side.

Good post.

It's not great to have an uncompetitive reserves side in the short term, but I think we've gone about this more or less the right way. We may have shifted to mids sooner if Schache had come one or two drafts earlier, but as it stands we've amassed what looks like a decent pool of KPP prospects. Hopefully a couple will separate from the pack in the nearish future and mature, and a workable midfield should take shape in a draft or two.

This is another one of those things that makes me think the club is united behind this idea of a proper, long-term build. There are a lot of risks and difficulties between here and there, but I feel like I can see what they're trying to do.

 

[Gadzorks]

With the mayes resigning it is clear that leppa is doing something right.
The club says he is staying next year so if players have a major problem with him they would be leaving, but they're not.
No matter what we on the outside see or think it seems the players have confidence in leppa and the coaching staff. That is a massive part future success.
Really interested to see how we go in season 2016 version 2 after the bye.

 

[Last of the Roys]

With the mayes resigning it is clear that leppa is doing something right.
The club says he is staying next year so if players have a major problem with him they would be leaving, but they're not.
No matter what we on the outside see or think it seems the players have confidence in leppa and the coaching staff. That is a massive part future success.
Really interested to see how we go in season 2016 version 2 after the bye.

Perhaps, it would be great if that is the case, but actions speak louder than words.

What we have seen on the park for most of the last month has been a team largely devoid of intensity. It is also one that has no confidence in its gameplan / structures. It only takes the slightest set backs early in a game for us to fall to pieces.

While Leppa himself may not have lost the players off field, the gameplan and structures seemed to have largely demoralised them.

If the players are currently playing for Leppa and his gameplan, then god help us....

 

[theteamtobeat]

With the mayes resigning it is clear that leppa is doing something right.
The club says he is staying next year so if players have a major problem with him they would be leaving, but they're not.
No matter what we on the outside see or think it seems the players have confidence in leppa and the coaching staff. That is a massive part future success.
Really interested to see how we go in season 2016 version 2 after the bye.

It could be the Lamberts who convinced Mayes to stay. Redden requested a trade to go to West Coast was so random and the reported reason was that Redden himself thought he couldn't get the best out of himself playing under Leppa as coach.

 

[Eons]

It could be the Lamberts who convinced Mayes to stay. Redden requested a trade to go to West Coast was so random and the reported reason was that Redden himself thought he couldn't get the best out of himself playing under Leppa as coach.

Can't help but shake your head regarding Redden. Seems to be playing worse at West Coast than he ever did with us. Massive steal getting a first round pick for him.

 

[notliondown]

It could be the Lamberts who convinced Mayes to stay. Redden requested a trade to go to West Coast was so random and the reported reason was that Redden himself thought he couldn't get the best out of himself playing under Leppa as coach.

Redden. What a waste. Has never reached the heights he should have - now having been coached by 3 coaches no less. I so badly wanted him to become a superstar.

I'd say Redden leaving says a whole lot more about Redden then it does anything else.

 

[luthor]

Can't help but shake your head regarding Redden. Seems to be playing worse at West Coast than he ever did with us. Massive steal getting a first round pick for him.

Just feels like Redden always overrated his own ability.

Seems like he can't get the best out of himself, irrespective of coach.

 

[Eons]

Just feels like Redden always overrated his own ability.

Seems like he can't get the best out of himself, irrespective of coach.

Exactly.

You can see why the club didn't fight too hard to keep him. Would have felt like Christmas getting a first round pick for him, evens up the Yeo trade.

Redden and Jetta looking like a disaster for West Coast.

 

[Haso]

Not sure where he is now.

Elsewhere, making bigger money than the Lions could offer him I would suggest.

 

[Haso]

The real problem is highlighted by the fac that our reserves are hopeless. It shows that our bottom 25 players are very unlikely to ever make it as AFL players so any chances of significant improvement can only come via the draft. That means time. That means years of waiting; if we have competent recruiting staff.

A few short years ago our ressies were dominating the NEAFL and the Lions were still middle to bottom dwellers.

 

[SizeMatters]

Redden was a better player than Sloane for his first few years. I remember reading the discussion a few years ago on bf. Let that sink in...

 

[theteamtobeat]

Can't help but shake your head regarding Redden. Seems to be playing worse at West Coast than he ever did with us. Massive steal getting a first round pick for him.

To be fair he had hip surgery end of last year. He missed out on a whole pre-season of running. It's to early to call on the Redden trade.

 

[Haso]

To be fair he had hip surgery end of last year. He missed out on a whole pre-season of running. It's to early to call on the Redden trade.

All signs are pointing to his form not really improving at all at WC though. His form prior to the trade was not that crash hot.

 

[Ironmonger]

All signs are pointing to his form not really improving at all at WC though. His form prior to the trade was not that crash hot.

It's pretty sad, isn't it?

He really can play - top five in the B&F for three straight years from 2011-13. Maybe there was something about the setup and his role under Voss that got the best out of him.

On current form he'll get dropped pretty soon, maybe when Dom Sheed returns from injury.

 

[jackess]

It's pretty sad, isn't it?

He really can play - top five in the B&F for three straight years from 2011-13. Maybe there was something about the setup and his role under Voss that got the best out of him.

On current form he'll get dropped pretty soon, maybe when Dom Sheed returns from injury.

We were pretty reliant on Reddo and Rocky for a while for clearances, contested possessions and tackles. Robbo and Bastinac are doing a better job than Reddo at the moment and Stef has also stepped up. Also have Jansen and Matho coming through.

 

[MacMum]

Redden has gone off.........Rocky doesn't seem his normal self

2 + 2 = they are fretting for each other

 

[Gadzorks]

Redden has gone off.........Rocky doesn't seem his normal self

2 + 2 = they are fretting for each other

Hahahs might be something in that - players that develop together know what to expect from each other and bring out the best of each other.
I think that its one of the problems in our team currently. They just don't know how to work together yet and there are not confident, hesitate and screw up.

 

[chopperduck]

To be fair he had hip surgery end of last year. He missed out on a whole pre-season of running. It's to early to call on the Redden trade.

Agree, i still think he is a good fit for them. They are a strong side and should be contending for awhile yet. He adds some depth, is a no frills B grade player, think he will settle in eventually.

 

[GabbaGirl]

Hahahs might be something in that - players that develop together know what to expect from each other and bring out the best of each other.
I think that its one of the problems in our team currently. They just don't know how to work together yet and there are not confident, hesitate and screw up.

I think this has a LOT more to do with our current woes than people realise or give credence to.