We have to come to the realisation that we aren't anywhere near top 4. On current form we won't make the 8. FFS, we are on the same win/loss ratio as Carlton and only half a game infront of Richmond. We have played only 2 finalists from last season and we have that sort of record. What the hell is going on? It doesn't make sense that we have had this big a fall from last season. Even though our finals last season flatered us, we wern't anywhere near this bad during the season proper.