Rumour Jack Luk-no-sius

[Blue Red and Gold]

Port initiated it!

He's being pushed out so they can get back into the draft.

agreed, and hats off to them, I wish we took this approach with Laird years ago

 

[Cleric]

But are we 'on the up'? It'd be great to get him at a reasonable price, but we're still a couple of elite players away from genuinely contending and next year's first pick could be as high as this year's.

It can turn pretty quick.
We all believe that we understand performed this season, and we have a young list with some good talent in it, so we will get better.

 

[rabidcrow]

Aren’t all these scenarios based on getting good picks for Houston kind of forgetting that they will lose a really good player - pretty much in his prime - from a position on the field that Paer struggle in?

If the plan is to put Luko as key forward and send Rutogalea back to cover Dan the Man?

Houston was one of the players I saw as crucial to their success, so losing him feels like big loss. Not sure how adding Lukosius to an underperforming forward line will remedy that?

Based on Perryman/Cumming to cover Houston, get a decent first pick in this draft and Luko up forward.


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[Kane McGoodwin]

agreed, and hats off to them, I wish we took this approach with Laird years ago

It's not too late this year...

 

[1970crow]

But if giving up the future 1st nets us Luko and a top 25 pick to get Dodson that’s a win

We can then go all in end of next year with future 1st for NWM

Not if future first is pick 4.

 

[Cromulant]

Not if future first is pick 4.

Youd think (hope) it wouldnt be, but I dont think it'll be too far off if Nicks is coaching

 

[Viva la Mattner]

Not if future first is pick 4.

We won't finish that low
If it gets to round 8 and we're looking missing finals then Nicks will get the boot over the midseason break
Then a deadcat bounce for an honorable 9th /10th or fluke an 8th spot

 

[ams4crows]

Purely a first person recount but from what I recall the initial Houston trade rumours were that Port were shopping Houston looking to get back into the draft. These rumours were laughed at, and a few weeks later Houston wanting to leave Port started popping up in the media.

I thought that Houston is being underpaid in terms of his value and wanted to renegotiate his contract at Port and Port said no we're not doing that you should look elsewhere if you want more money.

 

[Blue Red and Gold]

It's not too late this year...

Laird would have as much trade value these days as I do

 

[GROTTO]

We won't finish that low
If it gets to round 8 and we're looking missing finals then Nicks will get the boot over the midseason break
Then a deadcat bounce for an honorable 9th /10th or fluke an 8th spot

Most in here didnt think we would be a bottom 4 team in 2024.

I wouldnt rule out a repeat happening. All it takes is a couple of injuries to key players and a tough draw and were screwed again.

It why if we are potentially negotiating using a F1 for Luko it must be viewed as a Top 4 pick in 2025.

 

[Cromulant]

Most in here didnt think we would be a bottom 4 team in 2024.

I wouldnt rule out a repeat happening. All it takes is a couple of injuries to key players and a tough draw and were screwed again.

It why if we are potentially negotiating using a F1 for Luko it must be viewed as a Top 4 pick in 2025.

If, and BIG if, we get those 3 incoming players and we still finish bottom 4 the whole place needs burning down.

 

[GROTTO]

If, and BIG if, we get those 3 incoming players and we still finish bottom 4 the whole place needs burning down.

No.

It means we need a new coach.

 

[ams4crows]

If Port's Marshall has to retire early due to concussions, and Dixon also retires it make Luko way more of a need for Port.

Port's forward line is already their weakest spot and their key backs other than Alir are average at best

 

[GROTTO]

If Port's Marshall has to retire early due to concussions, and Dixon also retires it make Luko way more of a need for Port.

Port's forward line is already their weakest spot and their key backs other than Alir are average at best

I can see Port offering more for Luko than us, potentially.

It might come down to who Luko wants to play for.

 

[Redline]

I am sure he already knows where he wants to go but I think Luko will decide to go to Port. They need him more now than a month ago and there is a clear spot up forward for him.

Also he's leaving a team likely to play finals and Port will play finals again in 2025 which must be more appealing. It's a big gamble to come to us.

They will be able to use the picks they get for Houston.

Cumming will choose us and Perryman will go to Victoria

 

[Cromulant]

If Port's Marshall has to retire early due to concussions, and Dixon also retires it make Luko way more of a need for Port.

Port's forward line is already their weakest spot and their key backs other than Alir are average at best

Sounds like he had scans and he's clear to return

 

[Coopers]

We won't finish that low
If it gets to round 8 and we're looking missing finals then Nicks will get the boot over the midseason break
Then a deadcat bounce for an honorable 9th /10th or fluke an 8th spot

Yaaaaay.

AFC! AFC! AFC!

 

[Cromulant]

No.

It means we need a new coach.

Well yeah, but we're leaving West Lakes anyway so we may as well

 

[CromradeCromulent]

If Port's Marshall has to retire early due to concussions, and Dixon also retires it make Luko way more of a need for Port.

Port's forward line is already their weakest spot and their key backs other than Alir are average at best

Port have way more list holes than they have the capital to fix and losing Houston to get the capital to fix one of them just creates another. It's honestly fascinated watching people talk about them as if their list management is so much better than ours when a cursory glance shows some massive flaws.

 

[TBM]

Port initiated it!

He's being pushed out so they can get back into the draft.

Got form in this area too... Wingard, Duursma, etc.

Doesn't always work out, but when they go after trades/draftees they do go hard.

 

[ABAB]

I am sure he already knows where he wants to go but I think Luko will decide to go to Port. They need him more now than a month ago and there is a clear spot up forward for him.

Also he's leaving a team likely to play finals and Port will play finals again in 2025 which must be more appealing. It's a big gamble to come to us.

They will be able to use the picks they get for Houston.

Cumming will choose us and Perryman will go to Victoria

It will be easier to play in our forward system though, Port Power will probably have the salary cap to absorb the 2 years at $1M if they don't need to offer 7 years at $850K for Perryman.

 

[GROTTO]

I am sure he already knows where he wants to go but I think Luko will decide to go to Port. They need him more now than a month ago and there is a clear spot up forward for him.

Also he's leaving a team likely to play finals and Port will play finals again in 2025 which must be more appealing. It's a big gamble to come to us.

They will be able to use the picks they get for Houston.

Cumming will choose us and Perryman will go to Victoria

They do desperately need Luko more than us, he has leverage here.

He could easily command in the ballpark of a Butters/JHF/Rozee size salary from them over several years.

 

[Crowfan75]

Pretty sure they don't have a first round pick this year, and not sure if they're allowed to trade next year's? They used their 2022 + 23 first rounders in the JHF trade, then this year's first round as part of the trade to get Ratugolea and Zerk-Thatcher last year. The AFL let that through because that previous first had been traded for JHF who was only 1 year in the system so basically a draftee anyway. Not sure if they'll be allowed to trade next year's too, though?

If they end up trading Houston then that could give them some capital to work with for Luko (or whoever else they're into). If Luko does end up going for just a 2nd round pick then it might as well be ours and we should be up to our eyeballs in that. If Port are giving up a first rounder then they're welcome to him.

According to Chris ditmar Luko was tabled an offer which he laughed at from port but they put forward a second offer which he accepted I guess the next thing is that port now have to come up with the picks to satisfy Gold Coast


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[rabidcrow]

Port have way more list holes than they have the capital to fix and losing Houston to get the capital to fix one of them just creates another. It's honestly fascinated watching people talk about them as if their list management is so much better than ours when a cursory glance shows some massive flaws.

Has some flaws - but have played 3 prelims in 5 years.
JHF 21
Butters 24
Rozee 24
Burgoyne 20
Georgiades 23
L Evans 19
Drew 25
SPP 26

They still have plenty to contend for a while. Add Luko 24 and that’s a strong core.


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[Bevoman]

I thought that Houston is being underpaid in terms of his value and wanted to renegotiate his contract at Port and Port said no we're not doing that you should look elsewhere if you want more money.

Dan has new relationship with a lady who happens to live in Melbourne where Port have alwasy helped their home sick players out but would be very contented if he stayed.