List Mgmt. Jeremy Cameron traded to Geelong

What will happen with Cameron?

  • Traded to GFC for 3 x Rd 1 picks - Salty GWS, Eagles and Crows vote here

    Votes: 15 8.2%

  • Traded to GFC for 2 x Rd 1 picks

    Votes: 65 35.5%

  • Traded to GFC for 1 x Rd 1 pick, a player and Dean Gore V2

    Votes: 49 26.8%

  • Cameron enters the draft

    Votes: 29 15.8%

  • Cameron fishes with PFD for a year

    Votes: 8 4.4%

  • Cameron stays at GWS (including maybe exercising UFA in 2021)

    Votes: 10 5.5%

  • Cameron is traded to another club.

    Votes: 7 3.8%
  • Total voters
    183
  • Poll closed .

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Grimoz said:
An official podcast? How about just matching, why wait until 5pm, whats the point!!!
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Probably just dragging it out. They wouldn't have done the podcast though, if they didn't intend to follow through. It's all very bizarre when they could have just matched over the weekend/they're sacrificing a compo pick for literally no reason, but I did warn all here that this has Dave Matthews' bastardly stench all over it. They don't care about what they get, it's all about the optics and 'taking a stand'

Fully expect this one to go all the way, and get pretty ugly in the process ala O'Meara and Cochrane/GC a few years back.

Strap yourselves in, gonna be a bumpy ride
 
Grimoz said:
Nearly 10am.....i would have thought a match would happen straight away, WTF are you waiting for GWS.
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Did GWS forget to set their alarm...

It was them on Saturday who said they'd be using Sunday to inform Cameron & his manager of their decision to match & that they'd be doing so first thing Monday morning
 

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frggr said:
Doesn't he have to take the matched offer or walk to the draft?
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I don’t think there’s anything stopping him refusing to sign the “match” offer from GWS and negotiating something different.
 
BigCat1 said:
Can anybody post Jay Clark’s article. Will the Cats go nuclear?
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Not much to it, IMHO
Geelong and Greater Western Sydney will on Monday begin difficult discussions over a deal for superstar forward Jeremy Cameron.
The Giants are intent on securing at least one high-end draft pick and possibly as many as two first-round selections in exchange for the Coleman medallist.

And North Melbourne spearhead Ben Brown is expected to nominate Melbourne as his preferred new home to help significantly bolster the Demons’ scoring power.

The Demons are expected to offer a future second-round pick for Brown.

But the move will almost certainly end Tom McDonald’s time at Melbourne with the swingman set to seek a new home, potentially at either GWS or Sydney.

Adam Saad’s move to Carlton will be held up. The Blues want Saad and a draft pick back from Essendon in exchange for pick No 8.


The Giants’ decision to match the Cats’ offer for Cameron was a bold move designed to force the Cats to stump up an attractive package of draft choices for the key forward.

By matching the offer at 9am Monday, the Giants have effectively turned their back on pick No 11 as free agency compensation in a plan to land at least one earlier choice from the Cats.

The Giants are expected to use Geelong’s stance on Tim Kelly last year as an example of a club demanding a high return for a superstar player.

The Cats last year netted picks 14, 24 and 37 and a future first-round pick from West Coast for Kelly who is one year younger than Cameron.

But the Cameron trade move has the capacity to backfire on GWS in the event they cannot agree on a fair deal, forcing Cameron to enter the pre-season draft.

That is where the Cats will rely on other clubs not drafting the ace goal kicker against his wishes on a one-year term.

But the Cats could yet be the only club in the competition to have a pre-season draft pick depending on the reduction to list sizes and salary cap.
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Cameron’s management has told both clubs he only wants to play for Geelong next year and will not go back to the Giants.

Cameron’s management remain confident a deal will be done after nine years at GWS.


The Giants have also signalled an intent to secure some senior key players and are eyeing off Jesse Hogan from Fremantle.

But Geelong will not release Brandan Parfitt or Esava Ratugolea and remain confident linebreaking defender Jordan Clark wants to stay.

The Giants needed a ruckman but have already committed to Melbourne back-up big man Braydon Preuss.

Unless the Giants target other players from Geelong, it means the Cameron deal will hinge on one or two high-end draft picks.

The Cats have picks No 13, No 15, No 20, No 37 and a future first-round pick to trade and could combine then to help move up the draft order.

The Cats have not formalised their position and will hold talks on Monday about what the Giants want in exchange for the restricted free agent.

Geelong has not yet been told what the asking price is.
 
frggr said:
Geelong and Greater Western Sydney will on Monday begin difficult discussions over a deal for superstar forward Jeremy Cameron.
The Giants are intent on securing at least one high-end draft pick and possibly as many as two first-round selections in exchange for the Coleman medallist.

And North Melbourne spearhead Ben Brown is expected to nominate Melbourne as his preferred new home to help significantly bolster the Demons’ scoring power.

The Demons are expected to offer a future second-round pick for Brown.

But the move will almost certainly end Tom McDonald’s time at Melbourne with the swingman set to seek a new home, potentially at either GWS or Sydney.

Adam Saad’s move to Carlton will be held up. The Blues want Saad and a draft pick back from Essendon in exchange for pick No 8.


The Giants’ decision to match the Cats’ offer for Cameron was a bold move designed to force the Cats to stump up an attractive package of draft choices for the key forward.

By matching the offer at 9am Monday, the Giants have effectively turned their back on pick No 11 as free agency compensation in a plan to land at least one earlier choice from the Cats.

The Giants are expected to use Geelong’s stance on Tim Kelly last year as an example of a club demanding a high return for a superstar player.

The Cats last year netted picks 14, 24 and 37 and a future first-round pick from West Coast for Kelly who is one year younger than Cameron.

But the Cameron trade move has the capacity to backfire on GWS in the event they cannot agree on a fair deal, forcing Cameron to enter the pre-season draft.

That is where the Cats will rely on other clubs not drafting the ace goal kicker against his wishes on a one-year term.

But the Cats could yet be the only club in the competition to have a pre-season draft pick depending on the reduction to list sizes and salary cap.

Cameron’s management has told both clubs he only wants to play for Geelong next year and will not go back to the Giants.

Cameron’s management remain confident a deal will be done after nine years at GWS.


The Giants have also signalled an intent to secure some senior key players and are eyeing off Jesse Hogan from Fremantle.

But Geelong will not release Brandan Parfitt or Esava Ratugolea and remain confident linebreaking defender Jordan Clark wants to stay.

The Giants needed a ruckman but have already committed to Melbourne back-up big man Braydon Preuss.

Unless the Giants target other players from Geelong, it means the Cameron deal will hinge on one or two high-end draft picks.

The Cats have picks No 13, No 15, No 20, No 37 and a future first-round pick to trade and could combine then to help move up the draft order.

The Cats have not formalised their position and will hold talks on Monday about what the Giants want in exchange for the restricted free agent.

Geelong has not yet been told what the asking price is.
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Thought this was interesting:

"By matching the offer at 9am Monday, the Giants have effectively turned their back on pick No 11 as free agency compensation in a plan to land at least one earlier choice from the Cats."

Mate, we don't have any earlier selections :p
 

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BigCat1 said:
Can anybody post Jay Clark’s article. Will the Cats go nuclear?
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GWS is set to make free agency history when it matches Geelong's bid for superstar forward Jeremy Cameron.
In nine years of free agency, no club has matched a bid from a rival club.

The move to reject a free agency compensation pick and match Geelong's eye-watering offer to the 2019 Coleman Medallist will force the Cats into a trade to satisfy the Giants. Or the Cats cold take the "nuclear option" and take the chance of Cameron nominating for the draft.

Giants' bold play in Cameron trade
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Jay Clark
Geelong and GWS will on Monday begin difficult discussions over a deal for superstar forward Jeremy Cameron.
The Giants are intent on securing at least one high-end draft pick and possibly as many as two first-round selections in exchange for the Coleman Medallist.
The Giants’ decision to match the Cats’ offer for Cameron is a bold move designed to force the Cats to stump up an attractive package of draft choices for the key forward.
By matching the offer at 9am Monday, the Giants will effectively turn their back on pick 11 as free agency compensation in a plan to land at least one earlier choice from the Cats.
The Giants are expected to use Geelong’s stance on Tim Kelly last year as an example of a club demanding a high return for a superstar player.
The Cats last year netted picks 14, 24 and 37 and a future first-round pick from West Coast for Kelly, who is one year younger than Cameron.
But the Cameron trade move has the capacity to backfire on GWS in the event they cannot agree on a fair deal, forcing Cameron to enter the pre-season draft.

If that happens Geelong will rely on other clubs not drafting the ace goalkicker against his wishes on a one-year term.
But the Cats could yet be the only club in the competition to have a pre-season draft pick depending on the reduction to list sizes and the salary cap.
Cameron’s management has told both clubs he only wants to play for Geelong next year and will not go back to the Giants.
Cameron’s management is confident a deal will be done after nine years at GWS.
The Giants have also signalled an intent to secure some senior key players and are eyeing off Jesse Hogan from Fremantle.
But Geelong will not release Brandan Parfitt or Esava Ratugolea and remain confident line-breaking defender Jordan Clark wants to stay.
The Giants needed a ruckman but have already committed to Melbourne back-up big man Braydon Preuss.


Unless the Giants target other players from Geelong, it means the Cameron deal will hinge on one or two high-end draft picks.
The Cats have picks 13, 15, 20, 37 and a future first-round pick to trade, and could combine then to help move up the draft order.
The Cats have not formalised their position and will hold talks on Monday about what the Giants want in exchange for the restricted free agent.
Geelong has not yet been told what the asking price is.
 
smotherking said:
I found this paragraph in the jay clark article interesting:

“the cats could yet be the only club in the competition with a pre season draft pick”

not entirely sure how all that is worked out by the afl but surely if that’s the case that’s a massive trump card to hold for the cats
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THAT is awesome. How are pre-season draft picks even allocated?!
 
Turbocat said:

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GWS is set to make free agency history when it matches Geelong's bid for superstar forward Jeremy Cameron.
In nine years of free agency, no club has matched a bid from a rival club.

The move to reject a free agency compensation pick and match Geelong's eye-watering offer to the 2019 Coleman Medallist will force the Cats into a trade to satisfy the Giants. Or the Cats cold take the "nuclear option" and take the chance of Cameron nominating for the draft.

Giants' bold play in Cameron trade
b12435e1e8529d5779348bea87d35e29

jordanpinto
Jay Clark
Geelong and GWS will on Monday begin difficult discussions over a deal for superstar forward Jeremy Cameron.
The Giants are intent on securing at least one high-end draft pick and possibly as many as two first-round selections in exchange for the Coleman Medallist.
The Giants’ decision to match the Cats’ offer for Cameron is a bold move designed to force the Cats to stump up an attractive package of draft choices for the key forward.
By matching the offer at 9am Monday, the Giants will effectively turn their back on pick 11 as free agency compensation in a plan to land at least one earlier choice from the Cats.
The Giants are expected to use Geelong’s stance on Tim Kelly last year as an example of a club demanding a high return for a superstar player.
The Cats last year netted picks 14, 24 and 37 and a future first-round pick from West Coast for Kelly, who is one year younger than Cameron.
But the Cameron trade move has the capacity to backfire on GWS in the event they cannot agree on a fair deal, forcing Cameron to enter the pre-season draft.

If that happens Geelong will rely on other clubs not drafting the ace goalkicker against his wishes on a one-year term.
But the Cats could yet be the only club in the competition to have a pre-season draft pick depending on the reduction to list sizes and the salary cap.
Cameron’s management has told both clubs he only wants to play for Geelong next year and will not go back to the Giants.
Cameron’s management is confident a deal will be done after nine years at GWS.
The Giants have also signalled an intent to secure some senior key players and are eyeing off Jesse Hogan from Fremantle.
But Geelong will not release Brandan Parfitt or Esava Ratugolea and remain confident line-breaking defender Jordan Clark wants to stay.
The Giants needed a ruckman but have already committed to Melbourne back-up big man Braydon Preuss.


Unless the Giants target other players from Geelong, it means the Cameron deal will hinge on one or two high-end draft picks.
The Cats have picks 13, 15, 20, 37 and a future first-round pick to trade, and could combine then to help move up the draft order.
The Cats have not formalised their position and will hold talks on Monday about what the Giants want in exchange for the restricted free agent.
Geelong has not yet been told what the asking price is.
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"The Giants are expected to use Geelong’s stance on Tim Kelly last year as an example of a club demanding a high return for a superstar player."

Yeah, couple of things wrong with that....**** the Giants are idiots.
 
STPer18 said:
Oh jeez, list size reductions potentially giving us the only pick in the pre-season draft? Juicy juicy...
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That’s an odd line from Clark. North for example delisted about a dozen players, if there was the possibility of getting a Coleman Medalist for free in the PSD I’m sure they could manage to pass their last pick in the ND.
 
Just to put a hard edge on our stance here. We are in a great position to challenge and also get good youth in. We will blow this if we pay a stupid price here. Already the contract is very high in terms of the cap overall. Would we have just as much chance of beating Richmond if we stuck with Esava, had two good ball users in Smith and Higgins in and added Trelour to our midfield (which us where we get done by the Tigers), all fir probably 300k a year less and probably one first rounder rather than 2 and players ? Just asking!
 
smotherking said:
I found this paragraph in the jay clark article interesting:

“the cats could yet be the only club in the competition with a pre season draft pick”

not entirely sure how all that is worked out by the afl but surely if that’s the case that’s a massive trump card to hold for the cats
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It’s more than a trump card, it’d be the end of discussion with GWS. Take the compo or you lose him for nothing. Highly doubt we are the only club with a pre season pick though
 

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