Joe Burns playing for Italy

[The Lobbster]

After being dropped by Queensland, and the death of his brother, Joe Burns has made the switch to play for Italy, to attempt to qualify for their first World Cup.

He is also wearing the number 85 as a tribute to his late brother.

Do people think this should happen more? Meaning that those who clearly are not in the national frame for the ‘big’ teams going and attempting to improve cricket across the world.

Article: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...-2026-t20-world-cup-brother-tribute/103902116

 

[corbies]

Daniel Worrall is currently trying to qualify for England so we do see former Australians trying to help out the minnows.

 

[Rabish Binney]

After being dropped by Queensland, and the death of his brother, Joe Burns has made the switch to play for Italy, to attempt to qualify for their first World Cup.

He is also wearing the number 85 as a tribute to his late brother.

Do people think this should happen more? Meaning that those who clearly are not in the national frame for the ‘big’ teams going and attempting to improve cricket across the world.

Article: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...-2026-t20-world-cup-brother-tribute/103902116

I wasn't aware that he no longer has a Qld contract. Seems a bit harsh but Qld posters on here could shed more light on whether or not he should have been offered a contract.

In the circumstances, not too fussed about it to be honest. Good luck to him. Has a bit of a Tom Cooper representing Netherlands feel about it

Always thought Burns had the potential to play 60 tests for Australia, but alas couldn't do it at that level.

 

[Gough]

With the amount of Australians holding dual nationality I suspect we might see a bit more of this.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Daniel Worrall is currently trying to qualify for England so we do see former Australians trying to help out the minnows.

I think he has an English parent? Or some English connection to his family?

 

[Lebbo73]

I think he has an English parent? Or some English connection to his family?

Italian parent I heard. He hasn’t scored runs for Queensland for quite a while now.

 

[ioppolo]

Italian parent I heard. He hasn’t scored runs for Queensland for quite a while now.

He's talking about Worrall in that post

 

[big_e]

Joe Burns become just the sixth person to score a century for two different international teams, having made 108* vs Romania:

Kepler Wessels (Australia and South Africa)
Ed Joyce (England and Ireland)
Mark Chapman (Hong Kong and New Zealand)
Eoin Morgan (Ireland and England)
Gary Ballance (England and Zimbabwe)
Joe Burns (Australia and Italy)

 

[Kappa]

Maybe im in the minority but I think playing internationally for 2 different countries is utter rubbish.

 

[big_e]

Maybe im in the minority but I think playing internationally for 2 different countries is utter rubbish.

Why?

 

[Kappa]

Why?

Because representing your country means a lot less when you can just change allegiances on a whim.

It's like an olympic athlete going to another country and representing them because it's easier to go to the olympics. Makes a mockery of the country v country competition to play for multiple different countries

 

[The hands of stone]

Joe Burns become just the sixth person to score a century for two different international teams, having made 108* vs Romania:

Kepler Wessels (Australia and South Africa)
Ed Joyce (England and Ireland)
Mark Chapman (Hong Kong and New Zealand)
Eoin Morgan (Ireland and England)
Gary Ballance (England and Zimbabwe)
Joe Burns (Australia and Italy)

In a huge game too against Italy's traditional rivals in cricket

 

[icyflakes]

Because representing your country means a lot less when you can just change allegiances on a whim.

It's like an olympic athlete going to another country and representing them because it's easier to go to the olympics. Makes a mockery of the country v country competition to play for multiple different countries

I'd usually agree but I think in this case it's quite a beautiful/sad story and I'm all for it. Not like he's doing it for the money or fame

 

[Kappa]

I'd usually agree but I think in this case it's quite a beautiful/sad story and I'm all for it. Not like he's doing it for the money or fame

Yeah, but it's pretty unfair for Italy's opponents to randomly have an Australian test player

 

[icyflakes]

Yeah, but it's pretty unfair for Italy's opponents to randomly have an Australian test player

Agreed, but it's a team game. It gives them a big advantage during the batting but the bowling is still anyone's game.

 

[Kappa]

Agreed, but it's a team game. It gives them a big advantage during the batting but the bowling is still anyone's game.

Lol na, its like an AFL player subbing in for the suburban div 2 team.

 

[icyflakes]

Lol na, its like an AFL player subbing in for the suburban div 2 team.

Which has regularly ended in that team losing. I'd say the AFL argument has less control than the cricket example. A single batter can heavily influence the game, a single AFL player can't - you need someone to kick it to you.

 

[ioppolo]

The USA currently has a former NZ international who had done sweet FA at the world cup. Sometimes it doesn't pan out.

 

[akkaps]

The USA currently has a former NZ international who had done sweet FA at the world cup. Sometimes it doesn't pan out.

And Unmukt Chand was not selected in their squad as well

 

[Kappa]

The USA currently has a former NZ international who had done sweet FA at the world cup. Sometimes it doesn't pan out.

It's not about it panning out. The USA national team should have americans, not people who change country for their benefit

 

[icyflakes]

It's not about it panning out. The USA national team should have americans, not people who change country for their benefit

They will over time - this is a short term thing

 

[akkaps]

It's not about it panning out. The USA national team should have americans, not people who change country for their benefit

Corey Anderson didn't change country for his own benefit, his wife is from Dallas

 

[Kappa]

Corey Anderson didn't change country for his own benefit, his wife is from Dallas

He is kiwi, playing for America is for his own personal benefit. Having an american wife does not make him american.

 

[ioppolo]

It's not about it panning out. The USA national team should have americans, not people who change country for their benefit

Aaron Jones - NYC
Nitish Kumar - Ontario, Canada (not USA but still North America)
Steven Taylor - Florida
Jasdeep Singh - NYC
Nosthush Kenjige - Alabama

There's only a few native Americans sure, but I bet you wouldn't have picked three of those without looking it up?

A lot of children of immigrants will have citizenship in their new country and be able to play for the nation of, let's say Germany, in future despite being named Mohammad Farouq Al-Aziz and middle eastern ethnicity. It's how the game grows in these parts of the world. As if some white American, who has followed Baseball, NFL or NBA or even NHL all his life is going to add cricket to his list.

Australia has had many expats represent them.

 

[big_e]

Because representing your country means a lot less when you can just change allegiances on a whim.

It's like an olympic athlete going to another country and representing them because it's easier to go to the olympics. Makes a mockery of the country v country competition to play for multiple different countries

The easiest way to change allegiances in cricket is going from from an associate to a full member.

Dirk Nannes played for the Netherlands in a T20 World Cup and then for Australia that same year.

And of course there's Tim David, whose presence in the Australian side seems to bother absolutely nobody.