Unsolved JonBenet Ramsey

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Kurve said:
If the latest tests determines they have a profile, then it should be enough to submit it for DNA phenotyping and generate an image. I wonder why they haven't tried that.
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While they have no definite match for the DNA, then there will still be suspicion that the parents/family/friends were involved. They are going to look pretty silly if it turns out to be someone who has already been convicted of a similar murder(s) or a murder in Boulder. I have wondered if they have decided to just be satisfied that this person is in jail and unlikely to be released, so they have no motivation to add JonBenet's murder.
 
faible said:
From memory they've done tests and shown a ~ 9 year old is capable of inflicting the head injury, and the DNA sample is being questioned as to whether it's accurate or not.

Whether he did it or not, I don't think it can be ruled out as being 'possible' for a child of that age, and we've seen a number of cases over the years of younger children being violent e.g. the Bulger murder.
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The James Bulger murder was perpetrated by a psychopath/paedophile. I'm not sure BR has shown any of those traits?
Kurve said:
John's image featured in a magazine as well, boasting record profit for his company and that was kept in the office. Someone defaced it.

I think the intruder had been going in and out of that house for a while and they killed JonBenet, with all the hatred they felt towards John taken out on her.

Then that sneaky ransom note, which further extended the torture and caused so much confusion.
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It seems all very personal. Maximum pain & cruelty
Sweeetleftfoot said:
The ransom note is the biggest thing that points to the Ramsays imo.
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Maybe it was intended to be that way, to divide & conquer? Blame for her abduction/death is on JR and create suspicion that PR was involved via the note.
 

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faible said:
Seems to me like you've not only misread what I wrote, you've read way more in to it than was written.
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Nah, you introduced it here to suit your narrative 😉
faible said:
Whether he did it or not, I don't think it can be ruled out as being 'possible' for a child of that age, and we've seen a number of cases over the years of younger children being violent e.g. the Bulger murder.
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Sweeetleftfoot said:
The ransom note is the biggest thing that points to the Ramsays imo.

You only have to read the first line of the ransom note and the hoax is revealed.

“We represent a small foreign faction faction”
You’re not foreign to yourself.

The so called kidnapper was even kind enough to give John’s business a plug in the ransom note.

the note just screams to me that patsy wrote it while she and John were deciding what to say.



An handwriting expert also analysed the ransom note and found over 200 similarities to patsy’s known writing.
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Was the note written in the note pad? If so, was it the 1st page or pages deep in the pad?
The sharpie used was said to be that of Patsy's & it was put back to it's correct holder. Could the note have been written using onother of the same type of sharpie?
 
Admittedly, I am no Ramsay scholar, but for what it's worth I'd bet my house that Burke is neurodivergent, and I feel so heartwrenchingly sorry for the life he's lived. The spotlight he was forced under and will never escape makes me so sad for him, not to mention the ongoing accusations even after he has been publicly cleared by the Boulder PD.

I reckon it was an intruder. But not someone unknown to the Ramsay family. For whatever reason, which I'm 100% certain none of us will ever know, someone wanted to hurt John and Patsy whilst at the same time throw suspicion on them. Someone with a bitter axe to grind took their revenge by killing the brightest thing in their world - JonBenet. And for reasons known only to John and Patsy, they could never admit that it was someone they knew who killed their daughter. So, they are guilty not of murdering their own child but by helping to obfuscate the truth.

Whole case is bafflingly tragic. Just my two cents.
 
And for reasons known only to John and Patsy, they could never admit that it was someone they knew who killed their daughter. So, they are guilty not of murdering their own child but by helping to obfuscate the truth.
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I would burn the world down to uncover the truth of my childs murder - no matter the personal cost to me

If it was a ''friend'' - gone. Work colleague - gone . Boss - gone

Son - gone and given all the love and help they need
 

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GreyCrow said:
I would burn the world down to uncover the truth of my childs murder - no matter the personal cost to me

If it was a ''friend'' - gone. Work colleague - gone . Boss - gone

Son - gone and given all the love and help they need
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100%

My theory relies on someone having something dangling over John and/ or Patsy that is so heinous they were forced into compliance. Who knows - only the actual murderer/s. I'm just throwing my hat into the ring because I'm at home, and too hot to do much else!
 
frontierpsychiatrist said:
100%

My theory relies on someone having something dangling over John and/ or Patsy that is so heinous they were forced into compliance. Who knows - only the actual murderer/s. I'm just throwing my hat into the ring because I'm at home, and too hot to do much else!
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It’s a good theory. I’ve even wondered if it wasn’t a pedophile, but made to look like that by the killer/s to further blame the ramseys and misdirect police. Even considered if the killer was female.

You must be in Victoria. I’m also hot and have assumed the position of a beached whale.
 
frontierpsychiatrist said:
Admittedly, I am no Ramsay scholar, but for what it's worth I'd bet my house that Burke is neurodivergent, and I feel so heartwrenchingly sorry for the life he's lived. The spotlight he was forced under and will never escape makes me so sad for him, not to mention the ongoing accusations even after he has been publicly cleared by the Boulder PD.

I reckon it was an intruder. But not someone unknown to the Ramsay family. For whatever reason, which I'm 100% certain none of us will ever know, someone wanted to hurt John and Patsy whilst at the same time throw suspicion on them. Someone with a bitter axe to grind took their revenge by killing the brightest thing in their world - JonBenet. And for reasons known only to John and Patsy, they could never admit that it was someone they knew who killed their daughter. So, they are guilty not of murdering their own child but by helping to obfuscate the truth.

Whole case is bafflingly tragic. Just my two cents.
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The Ramsays weren’t cleared by the bolder police department.
Mary lacy worked as the district attorney office in bolder 2 separate entities.
The new DA gave the case back to bolder police stating all options are on the table.

People aren’t piling onto Burke because he is neurodivergent,( those that have researched thoroughly )he is known to have anger issues including whacking his sister with a golf club in the face and also other disturbing behaviour
With the smearing of faeces on the walls of the house.
 
OnTheRocks said:
Was the note written in the note pad? If so, was it the 1st page or pages deep in the pad?
The sharpie used was said to be that of Patsy's & it was put back to it's correct holder. Could the note have been written using onother of the same type of sharpie?
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From what I remember there was writing embedded under the pages also the start of another random note on the bin.
The original note addressed patsy and John. Second one just John.

Who knows in regards to the sharpie, huge coincidence an intruder brings a sharpie the exact kind the Ramsays owned.
 
frontierpsychiatrist said:
Admittedly, I am no Ramsay scholar, but for what it's worth I'd bet my house that Burke is neurodivergent, and I feel so heartwrenchingly sorry for the life he's lived. The spotlight he was forced under and will never escape makes me so sad for him, not to mention the ongoing accusations even after he has been publicly cleared by the Boulder PD.

I reckon it was an intruder. But not someone unknown to the Ramsay family. For whatever reason, which I'm 100% certain none of us will ever know, someone wanted to hurt John and Patsy whilst at the same time throw suspicion on them. Someone with a bitter axe to grind took their revenge by killing the brightest thing in their world - JonBenet. And for reasons known only to John and Patsy, they could never admit that it was someone they knew who killed their daughter. So, they are guilty not of murdering their own child but by helping to obfuscate the truth.

Whole case is bafflingly tragic. Just my two cents.
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I don't think it was a random intruder either. Someone spent a long time planning this, from the note (long rambling, confusing, filled with hope & also terror) to the day (christmas), everything was deliberate.
The intent was wicked in so to cause maximum pain & suffering. It's design was to destroy their lives. It did.
Even now it continues, those that still believe that 2 loving parents could do that to their daughter and with no answers accusers turned their suspicious gaze towards the brother. The perpetrators plan finished long, long ago but most of it still works today.
A few things that I think the perpetrator would have wanted to happen are : John & Patsy to divorce.
For either or both of them to go to jail.
Or for either or both to suicide.
 
faible said:



Pretty sure they mentioned it in the Netflix doco as well.
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So kids playing with plastic golf set.
All fun & games until someone gets hurt.
Sweeetleftfoot said:
Patsy ramsay herself. Although the Ramsays tried to downplay it as an accident it required a trip to the emergency,
Also neighbours have claimed to see outbursts over the years
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Sensationalism!
 

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