Judd has gone past Ablett now

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Am I the only one who thinks Judd's influence on a game is very occassional these days?

Please look at the Fremantle and Hawthorn games and tell me why he was on the bench for lengthy periods in the final quarters when the game was in the balance.
 
Am I the only one who thinks Judd's influence on a game is very occassional these days?
Probably

Please look at the Fremantle and Hawthorn games and tell me why he was on the bench for lengthy periods in the final quarters when the game was in the balance
Every club rests their best players including Ablett.
 
Judd gets his own pill whereas Ablett has to feed off his superior midfield to give him so many blocks and pretty much just give the ball to him.

You do realise that's pretty much what happened at WCE, right? The entire midfield would frequently block and sheppard for Judd
 
Am I the only one who thinks Judd's influence on a game is very occassional these days?
Probably

Fair enough, everyone sees the game differently. I find he gets a lot of "nothing" possessions. Brilliant against Collingwood's VFL team but can't say I've seen him like that at all this year. I'm not trying to be anti-Carlton. I think Carlton have quality, albeit inconsistent quality (like the Dons).

Please look at the Fremantle and Hawthorn games and tell me why he was on the bench for lengthy periods in the final quarters when the game was in the balance
Every club rests their best players including Ablett.

Not when the game is in the balance. Perhaps Alfred E. Neumann shouldn't stick so stringently to his pre-match regiment of when Judd or his teammates are going to come off. It's my opinion Neumann can't think on his feet.
 

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The debate is over.

Gary Ablett averages more possessions, but Judd averages more clearances, inside50s, assists, contested possessions, and just about every other stat you care to mention.

Gary Handball Jr will still get the plaudits because of who his father is, and will continue to rack up 10 kick/30 handball games, but Judd is the better footballer for mine.


Just lucky then that no-one gives a shit what you think
 
Am I the only one who thinks Judd's influence on a game is very occassional these days?

Please look at the Fremantle and Hawthorn games and tell me why he was on the bench for lengthy periods in the final quarters when the game was in the balance.

He goes missing when the game is on the line. I don't think he had one effective disposal in that final term. His direct opponent had 12.
 
Ablett has more 'up side' (remember that one flog?)

Absolute Rubbish.....

Judd would do much more than ablett if he were at geelong. Ablett could not do what Judd has done at Carlton.

No one can disagree with that....

Ablett stays home watching telly when he doesn't play. That tells you a lot about him as a leader and character. "I'm too competitive..." (WHATEVER)

If we were on the school yard picking teams, Judd would go before ablett 99% of time. The 1% would be cats supporters wanting Handball Jnr on their side so they could frolic in his man milk...

JUDD > AFL (bar turtle boy)
 
Absolution Rubbish.....

Judd would do much more than ablett if he were at geelong. Ablett could not do what Judd has done at Carlton.

No one can disagree with that....

I disagree with that. It's absolution rubbish :confused:

Ablett is better than Judd in the middle, and he is much much more effective going forward. Still a fair way ahead of Judd, couple of weeks out injured doesn't changed that, unless you're a numpty.
 
I disagree with that. It's absolution rubbish :confused:

Ablett is better than Judd in the middle, and he is much much more effective going forward. Still a fair way ahead of Judd, couple of weeks out injured doesn't changed that, unless you're a numpty.

Exactly right. Judd puts in his first top-level game for the year (while Ablett is out injured), and all of a sudden everyone is back on the Judd bandwagon.

It was one game for crying out loud. When he outperforms Ablett several weeks running (while Ablett is actually on the field), then this thread can have some merit.
 
Ablett going home and not sticking with his mates is an absolute disgrace. I'd call for Judd's captaincy if he did that.

Forget who is the better player. Judd is a top clubman and leader. Ablett will never have that string to his bow like Juddy.

That's it? That's what you're going with?
 

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