Current Julie Cutler - Murder - 1988 - Cottesloe WA *To the Coroner

[BFew]

Inquest into the Suspected death of Julie CUTLER

https://www.coronerscourt.wa.gov.au/_files/Inquest_2023/CUTLER, Julie Leanne.pdf (49 pages)
'[2023] WACOR 19
JURISDICTION : CORONER'S COURT OF WESTERN AUSTRALIA
ACT : CORONERS ACT 1996
CORONER : SARAH HELEN LINTON, DEPUTY STATE CORONER HEARD :
3 - 4 NOVEMBER 2022 DELIVERED : 6 APRIL 2023
FILE NO/S : CORC 830 of 2019
DECEASED : CUTLER, JULIE LEANNE'

 

[mrskafoops]

2012 there was this case (that I always recall) - decapitated head found washed up at Rotto 2013:

Man who killed, dismembered Perth drug dealer sentenced to life

A Perth man who fatally shot and dismembered a drug dealer, whose head subsequently washed up on Rottnest Island, is sentenced to life in jail with a 23-year minimum.

www.abc.net.au

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-30/carlino-sentenced-over-rottnest-head-murder/5855050

Aaron Carlino, 30, was found guilty of murdering Stephen Cookson, 56, in December 2012.

Carlino shot Cookson twice in the head as he slept at his apartment in East Perth and then used an angle grinder to cut his body into six pieces.

The parts were initially buried at a property at Golden Bay, south of Perth, before being dug up and dumped at sea.

A young girl found Cookson's head when it washed up at Porpoise Bay on Rottnest Island in January 2013.

The rest of the body parts have never been found.

Ew

 

[mrskafoops]

How to calculate height with tibia length?
For males : Height (cm) = 123 + 1.24 X tibial length (cm) and for Females : Height (cm) = 146 + 0.341 X tibial length (cm)

If it were a woman she would be 160cm.

 

[Kurve]

For males : Height (cm) = 123 + 1.24 X tibial length (cm) and for Females : Height (cm) = 146 + 0.341 X tibial length (cm)

If it were a woman she would be 160cm.

What's that in feet and inches do you know? Julie was either 5'2 or 5'4? I recall thinking that she wasn't very tall.

 

[Kurve]

How to calculate height with tibia length?
For males : Height (cm) = 123 + 1.24 X tibial length (cm) and for Females : Height (cm) = 146 + 0.341 X tibial length (cm)

If it were a woman she would be 160cm.

It's a bit over 5'2", I just checked. Wow ...

 

[mrskafoops]

Julie was 160cm

 

[jason_recliner]

2012 there was this case (that I always recall) - decapitated head found washed up at Rotto 2013:

Man who killed, dismembered Perth drug dealer sentenced to life

A Perth man who fatally shot and dismembered a drug dealer, whose head subsequently washed up on Rottnest Island, is sentenced to life in jail with a 23-year minimum.

www.abc.net.au

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-30/carlino-sentenced-over-rottnest-head-murder/5855050

Aaron Carlino, 30, was found guilty of murdering Stephen Cookson, 56, in December 2012.

Carlino shot Cookson twice in the head as he slept at his apartment in East Perth and then used an angle grinder to cut his body into six pieces.

The parts were initially buried at a property at Golden Bay, south of Perth, before being dug up and dumped at sea.

A young girl found Cookson's head when it washed up at Porpoise Bay on Rottnest Island in January 2013.

The rest of the body parts have never been found.

I knew him. Aaron's alright!

 

[Kurve]

Julie was 160cm

Do we have a height for the Ethiopian teen who sadly drowned? How old he was?

 

[BFew]

Do we have a height for the Ethiopian teen who sadly drowned? How old he was?

16yo.

Missing teen swimmer's remains found on Perth beach

The search for a teen missing after a late-night swim at Perth's Scarborough Beach ends in tragedy with the remains of the boy being found by a member of the public and identified by police.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Kurve]

16yo.

Missing teen swimmer's remains found on Perth beach

The search for a teen missing after a late-night swim at Perth's Scarborough Beach ends in tragedy with the remains of the boy being found by a member of the public and identified by police.

www.abc.net.au

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Poor kid, it might be his if it seems a bit odd to be found on Cott beach.

 

[mrskafoops]

Poor kid, it might be his if it seems a bit odd to be found on Cott beach.

I can't find any articles that give the measurement of the femur found at Scarborough. I suppose if it is his tibia then the Leeuwin current could have carried it down the coast. In the photos he appears to be taller than 160cm though.

 

[BFew]

In the photos he appears to be taller than 160cm though.

The missing persons news articles describe him as tall.
So that probably rules out the tibia bone being his.

https://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/search-continues-for-teenage-boy-missing-while-swimming-at-perth-beach/news-story/e5e87eb01be802c1c50ae756d27b6d50

'The teenager is described as tall, with dark skin, short hair and braces. He was wearing black Adidas shorts.'

 

[Kurve]

The missing persons news articles describe him as tall.
So that probably rules out the tibia bone being his.

https://www.news.com.au/national/western-australia/search-continues-for-teenage-boy-missing-while-swimming-at-perth-beach/news-story/e5e87eb01be802c1c50ae756d27b6d50

'The teenager is described as tall, with dark skin, short hair and braces. He was wearing black Adidas shorts.'

Our locals could keep an ear to the ground for any news of digging on Cott beach.

 

[Kurve]

There was another woman who disappeared leaving her car parked near City Beach, it was assumed she went swimming and drowned. Robyn Santyn.

 

[BFew]

There was another woman who disappeared leaving her car parked near City Beach, it was assumed she went swimming and drowned. Robyn Santyn.

At 170cm tall, not a shortie either.
Can't find any full length photos of her though.

Robyn

'Height:170cm'

 

[Kurve]

At 170cm tall, not a shortie either.
Can't find any full length photos of her though.

Robyn

'Height:170cm'

Getting real optimistic here now that it could very well be Julie.

 

[BFew]

Getting real optimistic here now that it could very well be Julie.

But could the tibia bone be that well preserved buried in the sand for up to 36 years?

 

[Kurve]

But could the tibia bone be that well preserved buried in the sand for up to 36 years?

Dunno, it might be if it was relatively undisturbed?

 

[BFew]

What if someone murdered Julie Cutler, or knew where Julie's remains were, and then only recently returned to the beach in the dead of night to bury the bone in the sand or throw it into the sea, to try and get the case even more closed than it already is. Or to provide some form of closure for her family and loved ones.

 

[mrskafoops]

Getting real optimistic here now that it could very well be Julie.

Me too! Does anyone know how far up the beach the bone was found in relation to the ocean?

 

[mrskafoops]

Me too! Does anyone know how far up the beach the bone was found in relation to the ocean?

I found this re the bone being in the ocean:

How long will human bones last in the ocean?
Putrefaction and scavenging creatures will dismember the corpse in a week or two and the bones will sink to the seabed. There they may be slowly buried by marine silt or broken down further over months or years, depending on the acidity of the water.

And

In spite of their long immersion in sea-water, the bones were, in general, well preserved.

On the problem of the preservation of human bone in sea-water

Lack of suitable information about the fate of archaeological human bones in sea suggested that we should carry out a multidisciplinary investigation …

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[mrskafoops]

What if someone murdered Julie Cutler, or knew where Julie's remains were, and then only recently returned to the beach in the dead of night to bury the bone in the sand or throw it into the sea, to try and get the case even more closed than it already is. Or to provide some form of closure for her family and loved ones.

I guess that would eliminate BRE as a suspect. He's not moving any bones around.

 

[BFew]

Does anyone know how far up the beach the bone was found in relation to the ocean?

Not yet.

However, the tide on Perth beaches at 9am on Saturday 28th September 2024 was with the tide going out (approx. 0.80m at 9am).
So not a particularly low tide when it was found, or in relation to the low tide of 0.52m the day before.

Need to see what the weather and swell was doing in Perth in the days leading up to the bone find.

http://www.bom.gov.au/ntc/IDO59001/IDO59001_2024_WA_TP015.pdf

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Shock twist after bone washes up on popular beach in Australia

The 40cm bone was spotted protruding from the sand at Cottesloe Beach, 14km from Perth, at about 9am on Saturday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'The 40cm bone was spotted protruding from the sand at Cottesloe Beach at about 9am on Saturday.'


WA Police secured the bone with the help of Surf Live Saving personnel

The 40cm bone was spotted protruding from the sand at a beach 14km away from Perth

 

[Kurve]

What if someone murdered Julie Cutler, or knew where Julie's remains were, and then only recently returned to the beach in the dead of night to bury the bone in the sand or throw it into the sea, to try and get the case even more closed than it already is. Or to provide some form of closure for her family and loved ones.

Yeh, I hope it's not been 'planted' there or it could belong to anybody.

 

[mrskafoops]

Not yet.

However, the tide on Perth beaches at 9am on Saturday 28th September 2024 was with the tide going out (approx. 0.80m at 9am).
So not a particularly low tide when it was found, or in relation to the low tide of 0.52m the day before.

Need to see what the weather and swell was doing in Perth in the days leading up to the bone find.

http://www.bom.gov.au/ntc/IDO59001/IDO59001_2024_WA_TP015.pdf

27 FR
0433 0.94
1517 0.52

28 SA
0702 0.93
1532 0.56
2318 0.77

Shock twist after bone washes up on popular beach in Australia

The 40cm bone was spotted protruding from the sand at Cottesloe Beach, 14km from Perth, at about 9am on Saturday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

'The 40cm bone was spotted protruding from the sand at Cottesloe Beach at about 9am on Saturday.'

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WA Police secured the bone with the help of Surf Live Saving personnel
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The 40cm bone was spotted protruding from the sand at a beach 14km away from Perth

Maybe metic can help?

 

[BFew]

Yeh, I hope it's not been 'planted' there or it could belong to anybody.

Hopefully there's high quality CCTV with night vision recording what happens on that beach at night.
Although for privacy reasons, there might not be.