Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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Justice is served. Hopefully Rittenhouse makes better decisions in the future about inserting himself into dangerous situations.

American's really need to sort out their love affair with guns and their disregard for other peoples lives and property. What is seen as an acceptable way to express dissatisfaction over there is ridiculous.
 
Gough said:
Biden as President can't be sued. When he's out of office they can have a pop but they'll have to wait.
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Enough time for Hunter to get painting.
 
I thought the second amendment 2as supposed to help in active shooter situations.

I kinda understand him getting off the first shooting as self defence, but the other 2 were people trying to apprehend an active shooter.

So next school shooting, if an armed citizen points their gun at the fleeing active shooter, the shooter can shoot them and claim self defence?
 
Good.

BigTacoBandit said:
I thought the second amendment 2as supposed to help in active shooter situations.

I kinda understand him getting off the first shooting as self defence, but the other 2 were people trying to apprehend an active shooter.

So next school shooting, if an armed citizen points their gun at the fleeing active shooter, the shooter can shoot them and claim self defence?
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They can claim it but they would still get the chair for the people they murdered earlier, so it's worth taking the shot if you believe there are still people at risk.
 
Genuine question for those on the "guilty" side.

When being chased by a mob, some brandishing & pointing guns and others swinging a skateboard at your head, at what point are you justified to defend yourself with whatever means is at your disposal?

In your answer, be mindful that he tried to run away from the mob who proceeded to chase him, he didn't stand his ground or antagonize anyone.

Genuine question. I'm struggling to understand the reasoning behind those who feel the verdict was wrong. Is the argument here that he should have politely lay down and let himself be murdered?
 
BigTacoBandit said:
I thought the second amendment 2as supposed to help in active shooter situations.

I kinda understand him getting off the first shooting as self defence, but the other 2 were people trying to apprehend an active shooter.

So next school shooting, if an armed citizen points their gun at the fleeing active shooter, the shooter can shoot them and claim self defence?
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No, and the prosecution tried this path of saying he "instigated the argument" which started all this.

But that was proven to be incorrect, so because he hasn't started the issue, self defence wins.

In your example no, because the active shooter has instigated the situation. Way different end of the spectrum. It would not be self defence.

Also that sure is an interesting way to apprehend a shooter by attacking him with a skateboard...
 

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BigTacoBandit said:
I thought the second amendment 2as supposed to help in active shooter situations.

I kinda understand him getting off the first shooting as self defence, but the other 2 were people trying to apprehend an active shooter.

So next school shooting, if an armed citizen points their gun at the fleeing active shooter, the shooter can shoot them and claim self defence?
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I don't know if the school shooting scenario really holds up but if or more likely when there is another outbreak of protests then this ruling means that is the tacticool types turn up the antifa types should shoot to kill or risk being killed with no reprecussions. No point going for disarming them.

The US is a weird place politically where someone like Kyle now becomes a hero to people.

The ruling looks correct based on the laws but I think it says more about how shoddy America's laws and legal system are. In particular the writing of gun legislation that it's illegal to buy the AR 15 but that he can then legally open carry it makes no sense.
 
daddy_4_eyes said:
Genuine question for those on the "guilty" side.

When being chased by a mob, some brandishing & pointing guns and others swinging a skateboard at your head, at what point are you justified to defend yourself with whatever means is at your disposal?

In your answer, be mindful that he tried to run away from the mob who proceeded to chase him, he didn't stand his ground or antagonize anyone.

Genuine question. I'm struggling to understand the reasoning behind those who feel the verdict was wrong. Is the argument here that he should have politely lay down and let himself be murdered?
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The self defence is a reasonable argument to which I think the not guilty verdict is reasonable. However, my issue is voluntarily walking into this situation with an assault rifle in your hands escalates any situation exponentially and the protestors would be right to presume this as a sign of aggression in the first place. What baffles me is there is zero accountability on the kid turning up like this in the first place. Does someone pull a gun on him if he is unarmed?
 
BigTacoBandit said:
I thought the second amendment 2as supposed to help in active shooter situations.

I kinda understand him getting off the first shooting as self defence, but the other 2 were people trying to apprehend an active shooter.

So next school shooting, if an armed citizen points their gun at the fleeing active shooter, the shooter can shoot them and claim self defence?
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It wasn't an active shooter situation as it turned out. They may have thought it was. Rittenhouse was trying to run to the police line, they misread the situation and attacked him. He still gets to defend himself. He does not have to submit to the mob.
 
Biden didn't want civil unrest so that's why he's concerned about the outcome, the outcome is the correct one but there will be a large amount of brainlets burning cities and smashing things because of it. I thought he would get railroaded like chauvin so I'm impressed the USA got this one right at least. A dead pedophile is the best possible outcome for this
 
Pffft I called this over a year ago:
ShanDog said:
Honestly, it seems pretty clear cut to me that he believed his life was under threat and could justify his decisions to shoot. I think there's going to be a lot of disappointed and angry people when he isn't found guilty. Unless of course more info comes out that changes the situation.
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Financialpanther said:
The self defence is a reasonable argument to which I think the not guilty verdict is reasonable. However, my issue is voluntarily walking into this situation with an assault rifle in your hands escalates any situation exponentially and the protestors would be right to presume this as a sign of aggression in the first place. What baffles me is there is zero accountability on the kid turning up like this in the first place. Does someone pull a gun on him if he is unarmed?
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It's weird. There's no shortage of people in this thread acknowledging that Kyle made poor choices to be where he was on the night, but there's a divide about whether he should wear some culpability for his choices that have led to two deaths. Like the Trayvon Martin verdict, it enshrines the right to involve yourself in a dangerous situation of your own volition, even knowing your best bet of self-defence is to use lethal force, by exonerating you of responsibility for any damage resultant from your actions.
 
Nuggs Bunny said:
It's weird. There's no shortage of people in this thread acknowledging that Kyle made poor choices to be where he was on the night, but there's a divide about whether he should wear some culpability for his choices that have led to two deaths. Like the Trayvon Martin verdict, it enshrines the right to involve yourself in a dangerous situation of your own volition, even knowing your best bet of self-defence is to use lethal force, by exonerating you of responsibility for any damage resultant from your actions.
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Yep - I am more concerned about the potential precedent this creates for vigilantism.
 

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