Roast Lack of noise

[Davo23]

I brought my kids to every footy game when they were little, and we sat in family areas.
They now are adults and make as much noise as everyone else.

Why do people criticise families attending the footy?

They are the supporters of the future.

 

[RelaxMax]

The worst part of the soccer is they are wannabees copying what they think happens in europe

Heres a tip, they dont need the words to "youll never walk alone" on the big screens at anfield

Add to that, they haven't ruined a great song by association

 

[cryptor]

It won't happen though.

Families bring in 3-5 people requiring 3-5 seats.

The rowdy and boisterous bring themselves and meet their mates there or at a nearby pub. (generalising here)

The AFL will always side with what brings in more people and more money. They're also not going to give the families the bad seats or the kids won't want to go and for each family, that's 3-5 less seats being sold.

What I'm suggesting isn't to reduce seating or level of seating quality for families but instead take those boisterous supporters who like to stand up and yell at their seat and remove them from the bays with families and put them together.

Noise levels increase due to these blokes egging each other on and the more polite ones not having to worry about upsetting those around them (ie. The families).

The families are also no longer having to deal with that "drunk guy who swears and spills beer on the back of our heads when he jumps out of his seat".

But also agree. It won't happen.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

How about we get rid of every cheersquad in the competition, because lets be honest, they're all awful. And then all the standing room fellas get the 3 bays behind the goals to chant and whatever they like. Have a few bays surrounding that are mixed in so all the PC/families don't get offended and wallah, more noise

 

[savagelunchbox]

How about we get rid of every cheersquad in the competition, because lets be honest, they're all awful. And then all the standing room fellas get the 3 bays behind the goals to chant and whatever they like. Have a few bays surrounding that are mixed in so all the PC/families don't get offended and wallah, more noise

You're essentially saying to remove the cheersquad and replace them with... a cheersquad.

 

[eldorado]

I love the cultural differences between football and soccer fans.

Football fans go to the game, yell and cheer at goals, big marks and other great bits of play, boo the umps and opposition players and yell 'BALL!!' at wildly inapproropriate times. Then they go home or go to the pub for a beer.

Soccer fans go to the game, sing and chant constantly because the game is so excruciatingly boring, get frustrated, take it all way too seriously, set off flares, abuse eachother, get into fights, beat people up just because they barrack for a different team and generally carry on like the mindless, overly entitled sooks that they are.

Soccer and AFL fans are alike in one way, they both like to make ridiculous and simplistic generalisations about each other...

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

You're essentially saying to remove the cheersquad and replace them with... a cheersquad.

Yeah, but the contents of the cheersquad will be different you know. No dole bludging, overweight, no life bogans who are obsessed with the HFC. Just beer loving, banter loving HFC supporters who have better chants.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

I swear every cheersquad is the same though. They all look the same, obese, old, etc. Are they given directives from higher up not to do offensive chants? Hawthorn, clap clap clap, etc is so mundane.

 

[savagelunchbox]

Yeah, but the contents of the cheersquad will be different you know. No dole bludging, overweight, no life bogans who are obsessed with the HFC. Just beer loving, banter loving HFC supporters who have better chants.

None of Hawthorn's cheersquad are unemployed.

There was one, a short, angry man, who, due to a mental condition, was unemployed, but he's since been given the ass due to abusive behaviour.

The rest are all quite well off financially.

 

[PNess]

I swear every cheersquad is the same though. They all look the same, obese, old, etc. Are they given directives from higher up not to do offensive chants? Hawthorn, clap clap clap, etc is so mundane.

Doubt it. The ones I've come across don't appear to be overly creative types.

 

[savagelunchbox]

I swear every cheersquad is the same though. They all look the same, obese, old, etc. Are they given directives from higher up not to do offensive chants? Hawthorn, clap clap clap, etc is so mundane.

When the club helps fund the many interstate trips travel costs, plus the money they give to do such fantastic banners, the cheersquad are not going to start any chants that anyone will find offensive and risk having negative attention drawn to them.

 

[PNess]

None of Hawthorn's cheersquad are unemployed.

There was one, a short, angry man, who, due to a mental condition, was unemployed, but he's since been given the ass due to abusive behaviour.

The rest are all quite well off financially.

Seemed like a pretty bad assumption.

Have you been part of the cheersquad?

 

[PNess]

When the club helps fund the many interstate trips travel costs, plus the money they give to do such fantastic banners, the cheersquad are not going to start any chants that anyone will find offensive and risk having negative attention drawn to them.

So it's not possible to be creative without being offensive?

 

[savagelunchbox]

Seemed like a pretty bad assumption.

Have you been part of the cheersquad?

I know them, but no I've never been part of the cheersquad.

 

[Gary Conan Ayres]

It possibly has something to do with AFL being an entertaining sport and soccer is slow and un eventful so the fans had to find a way to entertain themselves.

 

[grumbleguts]

In an afl match something exciting happens every 90 seconds. In a soccer match, a player rolls around on the ground like he's Michael J Fox on fire about the same frequency. BUT that's not anywhere near as exciting as actually playing the game as it was designed, so the crowd go there to have what would have been a street party, only the neighbours would have complained. Surely, no body alive actually thinks the actual sport is relevant do they?

 

[Roddy]

Soccer and AFL fans are alike in one way, they both like to make ridiculous and simplistic generalisations about each other...

Especially when there is overwhelming evidence to support those generalisations.

 

[Jiggystoon]

Culture is different, that's all...

Personally, manufactured 'rah-rahs' aren't my thing, I'll cheer like mad when my team does something good, both in Aussie Rules and soccer, but apart from, I just like to watch

Pessimistic, the dickhead thing is maybe a bit harsh, but, yeah, I reckon a lot of the singing and chanting is as much as establishing a sense of belonging and 'ingroup' as it is about supporting the team. At times, soccer supporter groups even turn their back on the play, either as a staged protest, or just as an ingroup thing (e.g the Poznan). Hence, young males seeking a sense of belonging, sometimes looking for a basis for empowerment (leading to 'some' anti-social' acts), and the sense of de-individuation, the need for peer acceptance by some of the younger, less mature ones, leads to the flare thing.

Regarding the violence HairyO, the media bias towards soccer is just ridiculous OMIGOD 10 people evicted in nasty ethnic foreign imported football game crowd violence!!! Shock horror think of the children!!! a water bottle hit A CHILD in the head!!!!!

Meanwhile only 100 people evicted in good old-fashioned indigenous AFL crowd violence! What a great result! No one pulled a knife, only punches! Police were stoked! What a wonderful non foreign group we all are, eh?

(I actually did my final uni psych paper on the psychology of sports crowd support, but I'll be damned if I'm writing that whole thing again...I like to imagine I've got some appreciation of things, though)

I have just finished the last of my undergrad Psych units at Deakin, the topic of your paper sounds really interesting, did your paper ever get published? Would be a good read I reckon


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[eldorado]

Especially when there is overwhelming evidence to support those generalisations.

Of course...spoken like a true religious zealot

 

[eldorado]

Surely, no body alive actually thinks the actual sport is relevant do they?

No-one except those 3 billion who watch the World Cup, or English premier league every week.

 

[eldorado]

BTW...

Last time I checked, this was the "Lack of noise" thread, not the "Let's bash wogball" thread.

As someone who also frequents (and has modded) soccer forums, I'm heartily sick of the simple minded comments about the alternative sport on both boards. On the other one, I've had to do the same thing.

And before you say "I'm right, and they're wrong"...they say the same thing over there.

Suffice to say you weren't raised in its culture, don't really get into it, and that will be fine.

Just like religion though...as Richard Dawkins said, the same man who swears blind about Jesus would be swearing blind about Mohammed or Shiva if he just happened to have been born into a different culture.

 

[Pessimistic]

No-one except those 3 billion who watch the World Cup, or English premier league every week.

Good time to go out thieving, if most of the worlds population is glued to the telly.

So you really balieve those figures ?

 

[eldorado]

What's not to believe?

I actually pulled that number from my arse, although I know it's in the billions... I'll look up the real number


EDIT: Apparently, about a billion watched the final, don't know how many watched any other games

 

[Pessimistic]

BTW...

Last time I checked, this was the "Lack of noise" thread, not the "Let's bash wogball" thread.

As someone who also frequents (and has modded) soccer forums, I'm heartily sick of the simple minded comments about the alternative sport on both boards. On the other one, I've had to do the same thing.

And before you say "I'm right, and they're wrong"...they say the same thing over there.

Suffice to say you weren't raised in its culture, don't really get into it, and that will be fine.

Just like religion though...as Richard Dawkins said, the same man who swears blind about Jesus would be swearing blind about Mohammed or Shiva if he just happened to have been born into a different culture.

I'm going to exercise and abuse mod power by deleting soccer bashing posts on here from now on. Feel free to complain to admin if you feel this is unfair.

Its more "be careful what you wish for" commentary. Nothing against soccer.

However one time the hawk fans did get passionate and loud, we ended up with the goodes saga. The prception is we are the conservative folk from leafy world in melbournes east, we get marked harshly for kicking up a fuss which is just expected elsewhere.

 

[Dragz]

AFL cheers are super inventive.
MY-TEAM clap clap clap MY-TEAM clap clap clap

How can you put that out for two hours?

Woo, the Freo supporter knows our Chant!!

Completely correct though. Would love some of the clubs to invest in getting some English peeps over from the Balmy Army / Football clubs to work on that sort of thing. Cheer Squads need to drag everyone into song/chant