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2009 1st round WR draft picks:
DHB – 27/434yds 16.1ypc 1td
Crabtree – 20/205yds 10.5ypc 0td
Maclin – 37/489yds 13.2ypc 3tds
Harvin – 27/276yds 10.2ypc 0td
Nicks – 32/508yds 15.9ypc 3tds
Britt – 17/289yds 17.0ypc 3tds
And we all know DHB would have had crazy more yds and more tds if Campbell wasn’t throwing OOB and Boller could hit the broad side of the barn.
Just thought I would throw that out there. For all those naysayers when the season started.
Harvin deserves more leeway than DHB if you're going to give DHB a bit of a pass due to situation.As of week 7...
I can admit that I have no idea how all this could play out.
But it will turn out either a masterstroke or end up a cluster****.
Basically, there’s apprehension and time will tell. I mean, how Palmer and TJ perform, but also the lockerroom dynamics, whether we next see Jordan Palmer signed, whether the season falls apart or excels, the reigns tightened or kept loose on Jackson, etc.
On face value I’m just willing to see what happens and can understand the ‘pros’ to these moves.
I mean, this is the kind of stuff a Kiffin or McDaniels does. They’re young, rookie HCs, have all these ideas and exuberance buzzing around their heads, if they’re given TOO MUCH leeway they can be unwise and fritter away draft value, release talented young players on the brink of stepping up, upsetting team harmony/chemistry, etc.
I believe in Hue, but with Al there, wiser head there to soundboard ideas off of, someone who could teach and instruct a young HC in the ways of the NFL world. Kiffin didn’t respect Al’s input enough, fought him and challenged him like he thought he knew more than Al. Whereas Hue really worked with Al and respected him. However, right now it appears Hue has, as Mike Florio pointed out before, contractual power to answer only to the owner, who when it was Al, was also the GM, but right now and perhaps even after they hire a GM, there’s that contractual hitch there.
Anyway, I guess it’s the nature of coaches/GMs etc, to hire people they’ve previously worked with. So no biggie yet, but Hue turning the Raiders into the Bengals has to be tempered.
2009 1st round WR draft picks:
DHB – 27/434yds 16.1ypc 1td
Crabtree – 20/205yds 10.5ypc 0td
Maclin – 37/489yds 13.2ypc 3tds
Harvin – 27/276yds 10.2ypc 0td
Nicks – 32/508yds 15.9ypc 3tds
Britt – 17/289yds 17.0ypc 3tds
Didn’t seem to be a lot of chemistry issues in the locker room, although there was a Profootballtalk.co report which said players had begun wonder about Jackson in light of a Saturday night team meeting in which he said he was already lining up free agents for those who didn’t do their jobs.
Checked in privately with one player about it and got a blank, bewildered expression as if he had zero idea what I could be talking about. Not saying it didn’t happen, but I would suggest to be a little bit skeptical about unsourced stories done from a distance.
It’s midseason, a little early for even the Raiders to be coming apart at the seams.
We’ll know soon enough if the Raiders are tuning out Hue based based on their play. Both in the Denver post game and on Monday, Jackson has been calmer, more reasonable, a little more restrained. Most good coaches take that tact with their teams in times of trouble rather than going scorched earth.
When the guy at the top panics, the team will surely follow.
This is what I think really happened.
Hue was so over-confident that the Raiders would win that he sat DHB, Boss, and McClain so they would be healthy and rested for the Chargers game.
It bit him in the azz and so he came up with this “sets” BS to avoid looking stupid.
Would have worked if defense did not break down in the 2nd half.
I think Hue is big on lying to media to hide team issues, strategies, tactics. What he sorely misses by doing is losing fam base who won’t trust a word coming out of his mouth anymore. It was obvious he held out DHB and Boss to make SD think they won’t be used in their game. Who could forget his not naming Dumass Boller as his starter against KC?
Yeah misdirection is a job of HC but not at expense of screwing up his relationship w media and fans who’ll turn on him like a dime. But that’s Hue’s ammo. He is a street smart kind of guy and not an experienced Xs and Os guy who’ll make adjustments during game to out coach his opponents. He tries to fool them instead. That he thinks is his strategy along w being king of BS. He was a security guard at LAX 10 years or so ago. How do you think he rose to where he is now? By doing exactly what I just said. But getting a HC job from a man like AD is different than winning in NFL. That he’s finding out fast.
Another thing. Cutting hard working popular player like Hagan to bring HIS guy didn’t sit well with the locker room. Assume for a moment the Saturday night meeting did happen. Why would it happen a day before playing the worst team in your division at home? It must have been due to cutting Hagan for no reason. The difference between Hagan and TJ is not huge, one is young and hungry and the other is experienced. Hue made a mistake by signing TJ in first place and then cutting Hagan instead of FB Mensa. Had he cut Mensa locker room would not have been so pissed that an emergency meeting had to be called for to calm them down. Again I think Hue is losing certain players in the locker room, the Same ones he threatened to cut if they don’t “perform!”
Apart from the obvious implications of a pair of ugly home losses in a division the Raiders dominated last year, there are clear signs that Oakland coach Hue Jackson has entered the post-honeymoon phase of his career as a head coach.
We’ve been hearing increasing chatter via our network of sources regarding a growing perception among players that Jackson’s power in the wake of the passing of owner Al Davis has gone to Jackson’s head. It’s believed within the locker room that Jackson is running the show; as one league source explained it, some players believe Jackson isn’t qualified to have that much power.
Punctuating the quietly growing sense of resentment was a team meeting from Saturday night in which Jackson warned players that he’s already looking at free agents and that he won’t hesitate to cut current members of the team and replace them. Whatever Jackson did to push the right buttons before the game against the Broncos didn’t work; Oakland lost by 14 points to a team that extensively used the kind of college-style read-option offense that isn’t supposed to work at the NFL level.
Winning, as we’ve seen elsewhere, can quickly quiet the complainers. Jackson gets a chance to get things under control come Thursday night, when the Raiders travel to San Diego for a game against the Chargers.
“QUESTION: How will Marc Davis be able to pay the inheritance/estate tax? Both fed and state? Dolphins and Rams had to be sold because the next of kin could not afford the tax, after the owner died. I believe that tax is retroactive to the date the owner died, which means Marc Davis won’t be filing the short form next April.”
Answer:
Yes it will be difficult at one point for Mark and that will be when his mom passes. I am speculating on this next part…Al could have had a living trust with his wife and or Mark as executor and heavily funded by life insurance in order to pass the family business on at a lower tax rate. Sure life insurance would have been super expensive for AD but worth it to save the family business from sale or IRS levy…One day when Mark is the sole owner he will have a bigger tax burden than what they just went through and I would hope that he is preparing for that.
Florio (writer for PFT) was a lawyer and he did a story on how well the Raiders were passed on to Mark and Carol because of careful estate planning.
Having reached his "boiling point," Raiders coach Hue Jackson said Monday he passed along his officiating concerns to the NFL and wanted to move on to other matters.
After committing 12 penalties for 117 yards in their 27-21 win over the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday, the Raiders are on pace to set all-time league records for penalties and penalty yardage. And it's a problem that appears unlikely to go away.
"I've had some dialogue and I feel very comfortable about where it is now," Jackson said at his weekly news conference. "We'll move forward from it. I just wanted an opportunity say what I felt, and I did."
Jackson addressed issues of fairness and reiterated Monday that he failed to receive explanations from Jerome Boger's officiating crew in the manner of his counterpart, Vikings coach Leslie Frazier.
Contacted Monday morning, NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said in an email, "Teams have an opportunity every week to speak directly to our head of officiating, Carl Johnson, and receive explanations on any call. It is part of our normal procedure. We look forward to answering Coach Jackson's questions."
The Raiders have led the league in penalties 16 times and in penalty yardage 13 times, a history that those in the organization have suspected leads to flags that wouldn't be thrown against other teams.
Many fans take it a step farther, believing it to be a conspiracy dating back to legal battles late owner Al Davis had with the
league.
Jackson acknowledged the Raiders have penalty issues but hinted the club's reputation does them no favors when he said, "We do need to get better in some areas so people aren't saying, 'OK, let's have a great day throwing the flag today because it's the Raiders out there.' "
Asked if the Raiders have to be cleaner than other teams in order to get a fair shake, Jackson sidestepped the question.
"I'm not going to get into that," Jackson said. "I'm not going to complain about the penalties. Obviously after yesterday I've probably reached my boiling point ... all I ask is that when people deal with our football team, that it's done fairly.
"Yesterday was one game where I felt uncomfortable with what happened. I said what I said and I felt strongly about it and I still feel strongly about it today."
Although the league frowns upon criticism of its officials, Jackson said he didn't expect to be fined.
Included in the Vikings game were three debatable personal foul calls -- a roughing the passer on defensive tackle Tommy Kelly, a hit against a defenseless receiver by linebacker Aaron Curry and a face mask on Tyvon Branch -- all which helped lead to the Vikings' first touchdown.
The Raiders had four defensive personal fouls in the game -- defensive end Desmond Bryant was whistled for a late hit -- increasing their season total to 17. The most defensive personal fouls since the merger is 19 by the Kansas City Chiefs in 1998, when they set existing NFL records with 158 penalties for 1,304 yards.
Oakland, with 103 penalties for 892 yards, is on pace to break both of those records.
Mike Pereira, an NFL rules analyst for Fox and the NFL vice president of officiating from 2004 through 2009, said crews of officials usually work only one game per season with each team and at the most two to prevent preconceived notions of how to call a game.
Nor are officials briefed, according to Pereira, about specific areas of concern with teams.
"You never do that, because you put it in the officials' head and you're liable to get calls that turn out not to be fouls," Pereira said. "I know there's not a conspiracy. I don't feel there's a mindset. When I look back at the two consecutive personal fouls, the one called on (Kelly) and Curry's hit, those are calls being made all around the league this year."
Pereira said the increase in penalties has a lot do with the league's emphasis on safety.
Curry, with three personal fouls in five games since joining the Raiders, never knows when the next flag is coming.
"It all depends on whether a referee decides to throw his flag or not," Curry said. "Every hit we make, they're all borderline. You can call a personal foul on every play, you can call holding on every play, you can call a face mask on every play. It just depends on what guys feel like calling."
Said safety Matt Giordano: "You can't control what the refs do. I've never seen a ref win or lose a game. It comes down to the players knowing you've got to be ready and with the understanding that you've got to play with poise."
There's a conspiracy. Amy knows too. It's just something the org and players have to be philosophical and diplomatic about.
ok but when players come from other organizations and notice that "wow i get flagged a lot more since joining the Raiders" it kind of throws up a red flag to me
Even the Great Jerry Rice has stated this!
Well put. Hundreds of players and dozens of coaches have put on the Raiders uniform over the last 50+ years. As stated before, "1 team leading the league in penalties 99% of the seasons should be mathematically impossible unless bias was entered into the equation."