Laura Kane - Does Not Impress Me At All !!

[CrowToon]

This thread is unimpressive.

Somehow words said are of no substance despite people in these jobs doing exactly that for decades.

Go listen to most club presidents on radio and you'll see nothing answers given, deflecting the question.

Players trained to have no personality for the media.

All of a sudden a woman gets into power and some of my fellow men just couldn't be less impressed with what they are hearing.

She hasn't been in the job long enough to adequately assess her progress. She is in a strategic role - strategic change takes a long time to implement, this isn't managing a small self-employed business.

 

[The Feeder Club]

This thread is unimpressive.

Somehow words said are of no substance despite people in these jobs doing exactly that for decades.

Go listen to most club presidents on radio and you'll see nothing answers given, deflecting the question.

Players trained to have no personality for the media.

All of a sudden a woman gets into power and some of my fellow men just couldn't be less impressed with what they are hearing.

She hasn't been in the job long enough to adequately assess her progress. She is in a strategic role - strategic change takes a long time to implement, this isn't managing a small self-employed business.

You're right, I have never seen a single thread on BF critical of a male AFL executive or club president

 

[CrowToon]

You're right, I have never seen a single thread on BF critical of a male AFL executive or club president

Keep pretending it's not about what we all know it's really about.

 

[The Feeder Club]

Keep pretending it's not about what we all know it's really about.

What you know about 'what we all know' is zero.

 

[Big Blood]

I thought she was very good too

She's fine. What are people going on about ?

 

[PAFC66]

Early days but I think she is a gun, and she will be the next in line for the top job.

Because she's kissing your club on the d***?

 

[Ichiro #51]

A lawyer with extensive experience in football administration speaks like a lawyer with extensive experience in football administration. How very dare she.

Sounds like there’s quite a few blokes around here that would prefer Robbo in charge.

 

[KiwiRoo]

She's fine. What are people going on about ?

pretty sure it's because a woman got a top job in the AFL

There's always a portion of people in society that don't accept that. They'll swear black and blue that that's not the case...but it really is

 

[Osho]

I think by diversity amongst umpires, she meant:

Abso sht, sht, a bit sht, acceptable, good, very good, as now we seem to reject the latter four groups.

Or she could mean we need more diverse hair, across colour and styles. Given most refs are bald/shaven or short cropped, we can expect more color variety from sunflower blonds through strawberry blond through toffee, honey, copper all the way to burgundy, brown, ruby to heavy leather black. With diverse styles we would add in length variations, bouffants, wolf cuts, permed, natural fros, and waist length.

I think it's an obvious and good move in the current cultural context.

Go for it AFL! Be brave.

 

[FrustratedTiger]

She's fine. What are people going on about ?

They don't like a girl in a bloke's job

 

[SplintWhisky]

This thread is unimpressive.

Somehow words said are of no substance despite people in these jobs doing exactly that for decades.

Go listen to most club presidents on radio and you'll see nothing answers given, deflecting the question.

Players trained to have no personality for the media.

All of a sudden a woman gets into power and some of my fellow men just couldn't be less impressed with what they are hearing.

She hasn't been in the job long enough to adequately assess her progress. She is in a strategic role - strategic change takes a long time to implement, this isn't managing a small self-employed business.

Look at her history in club land and tell me she deserves the job she has now. She was head of footy operations at North from 2017-2021. I am not a North supporter but 2016 - 2017 are problem referred to as "the good times" before their club was brought to their knees.

Her history when in charge of football operations is shocking and we are getting more of it. It is like Dan Richardson getting a job at Essendon after failing in footy operations at Richmond.

There are just some people due to their history you shouldn't put in charge of things. You wouldn't put Tex in charge of Indigenous relations, you don't put Barry Hall in charge of concussion welfare and you don't put Dusty Martin in charge of cutlery management.

 

[Sully111]

As a feminist I reserve the right to slag off an incompetent woman just as I would a man.

If she thinks the Dangerfield free was justified, she's completely clueless.

 

[Fadge]

Keep pretending it's not about what we all know it's really about.

pretty sure it's because a woman got a top job in the AFL

There's always a portion of people in society that don't accept that. They'll swear black and blue that that's not the case...but it really is

They don't like a girl in a bloke's job

Yep, sure.

Because every time anyone says anything other than giving the highest praise to a female about anything they do, it's simply because they are a misogynist pig...

 

[Demonic Ascent]

It was clear after failing to appeal the Maynard decision last September she would be just another stooge.

 

[Back One Out]

My favourite quote of hers was when she said they needed a greater diversity amongst the umpires...

White maggots, yellow maggots, green maggots…

 

[Back One Out]

She hasn't been in the job long enough to adequately assess her progress. She is in a strategic role - strategic change takes a long time to implement, this isn't managing a small self-employed business.

Nope. She is not in a “strategic role”. She is the General Manager of Football Operations.

Her role is to oversee and administer the day-to-day, week-to-week aspects of AFL footy.

 

[Swan4Life]

Whatever one might think of her, surely it's not unreasonable to suggest that she is entitled to spend some time in the job before we assess her ability. It's too small a sample size at this point in time.

 

[KiwiRoo]

Yep, sure.

Because every time anyone says anything other than giving the highest praise to a female about anything they do, it's simply because they are a misogynist pig...

any grown up can see that that's not the case

However if you feel that you have to do so to avoid being labelled as such then that's up to you.
Personally, I find women are very able to defend themselves

 

[Fadge]

any grown up can see that that's not the case

Really? Because it is exactly what multiple posters in this very thread (including you) are suggesting.

Personally, I find women are very able to defend themselves

Of course they are. What has that got to do with the discussion?

 

[Teen Wolf]

Look at her history in club land and tell me she deserves the job she has now. She was head of footy operations at North from 2017-2021. I am not a North supporter but 2016 - 2017 are problem referred to as "the good times" before their club was brought to their knees.

Her history when in charge of football operations is shocking and we are getting more of it. It is like Dan Richardson getting a job at Essendon after failing in footy operations at Richmond.

There are just some people due to their history you shouldn't put in charge of things. You wouldn't put Tex in charge of Indigenous relations, you don't put Barry Hall in charge of concussion welfare and you don't put Dusty Martin in charge of cutlery management.

The AFL told Hawthorn to sack their underperforming female CEO during that time, after five months in the job. So this idea that you just get a free pass for being a woman simply doesn't line up with reality.

Laura Kane impressed the AFL during her time at North Melbourne--particularly during the covid seasons when plenty of others were cracking under the pressure, and through her structuring of an AFLW program which put most other clubs to shame.

Throw in her achievements at community level and it's pretty clear her experience across a number of different football admin roles is what got her the job she has now.

 

[Rob]

pretty sure it's because a woman got a top job in the AFL

There's always a portion of people in society that don't accept that. They'll swear black and blue that that's not the case...but it really is

Yeah cos AFL administrators that are blokes never cop any shit.

 

[FrustratedTiger]

Yep, sure.

Because every time anyone says anything other than giving the highest praise to a female about anything they do, it's simply because they are a misogynist pig...

No, but the stack on off the back of 1 or 2 interviews is disproportionate. She hasn't done anything yet, but people have already decided they don't like what they're hearing.

 

[The 747]

Yeah cos AFL administrators that are blokes never cop any s**t.

They don't cop shit for being male though.

 

[The 747]

I think by diversity amongst umpires, she meant:

Abso sht, sht, a bit sht, acceptable, good, very good, as now we seem to reject the latter four groups.

Or she could mean we need more diverse hair, across colour and styles. Given most refs are bald/shaven or short cropped, we can expect more color variety from sunflower blonds through strawberry blond through toffee, honey, copper all the way to burgundy, brown, ruby to heavy leather black. With diverse styles we would add in length variations, bouffants, wolf cuts, permed, natural fros, and waist length.

I think it's an obvious and good move in the current cultural context.

Go for it AFL! Be brave.

Well, since BF believes the umpires do a terrible job...perhaps it would not be a bad idea to have umpires that are not 95% drawn from the same subset of the population no?

 

[Dangerousfield]

She looks fine to me.

BIG plus is the breaking down of the Old Boys club in HQ. BTW, speaking of Old Boys, what's Lethlean up to now?