LCHF- Low Carb / High-Healthy Fat lifestyle.

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nicky said:
I wasn't referring to you was referring to mofra et all, you're very quick to take offense...
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If that wasn't directed at me then I take that back, but I have reason to think that you may have meant those words for me ;)

nicky said:
LCHF is gaining momentum, with Sweden changing it's guidelines etc. This is why more posters are adopting and talking about this diet. I guess other posters feel left behind and are lashing out at the enthusiastic "LCHFers". Rarely do i see paleo / LCHFers be disrespectful unless provoked... The negative nancies on this board are desperate to rain on the parade and will do anything they can to undermine the enthusiasm of the "LCHFers". It's pathetic.

And, of course they can have their opinion, go for it. I hardly read this board anymore, could you please post some examples where LCHFers oppress the opinions of others? (sensitive bunch that you are)
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I never said oppress, I said derailed or turned into the same fight in many threads. On a side note, if I or anyone else posted "sensitive bunch you are" about LCHF you would have taken offence. Something to think about.

nicky said:
LOL how on earth could paleo ideas be derailing a thread titled "low carb high fat diet for beginners"

classic stuff there... No worries, ban us for spreading paleo ideas in paleo threads...
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When did I say that I was going to ban anyone? When did I say that you couldn't talk about those topics in their respected threads? I said that it doesn't need to become the main theme of every thread, which seems to happen. Being that you have stated that you don't read this board very much, I may have deleted the off topic posts before you read them.

My personal opinion is something that I can rarely talk about as I need to keep neutral, but I've actually been pretty much eating LCHF as a base of my eating for some time now. While I personally find benefits to it, I'm happy if someone else has another healthy alternative to their lifestyle. I wish that this was the broader theme of this board.
 
Bazzar said:
Maybe they should offer some constructive opinions, or better still start their own threads on their particular type of nutritional advice/opinion.
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Many have done that. See the discussion on tuna consumption. To think that only 2 or three people give solid and constructive contribution to this board is very narrow minded an incorrect. Maybe only 2 or 3 give solid contribution that you agree with, but there are many others here who are fit and healthy people who enjoy other forms of diet/lifestyle.
 
Jab said:
Many have done that. See the discussion on tuna consumption. To think that only 2 or three people give solid and constructive contribution to this board is very narrow minded an incorrect. Maybe only 2 or 3 give solid contribution that you agree with, but there are many others here who are fit and healthy people who enjoy other forms of diet/lifestyle.
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No its 2 or 3 who are the trolls, the rest are fine.

And when i posted the breakdown on Bananas, eggs and berries and I said it was 'fascinating" and a troll replied with "why is it fascinating" why did you give that a thumbs up?
 

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Does not eating carbs make one more susceptible to arguing?
 
Bazzar said:
No its 2 or 3 who are the trolls, the rest are fine.

And when i posted the breakdown on Bananas, eggs and berries and I said it was 'fascinating" and a troll replied with "why is it fascinating" why did you give that a thumbs up?
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Exactly!

don't expect things to be fair. Just don't give them any air time at all as they're trying to get under your skin because they are the type of sad sacks that get off on that shit. I've only ever seen you post enthusiasticly and add value to this board. You get trolled because you're enthusiastic and they are pathetic. You're too good for them, ignore them. :)
 
Bazzar said:
No its 2 or 3 who are the trolls, the rest are fine.

And when i posted the breakdown on Bananas, eggs and berries and I said it was 'fascinating" and a troll replied with "why is it fascinating" why did you give that a thumbs up?
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To be honest, I don't recall "liking" it. I work off tapatalk sometimes and I could have done it then while I was deleting some posts. I've deleted about 150 posts today, not just from this board, and most of that was done from my phone. Sorry if I upset you, it wasn't my intention. I think that I've built a reasonable history to show that I don't work that way.

As for your post? I didn't have a problem with it. I don't know what your personal view is on any of those foods, but I personally enjoy them. I don't eat a lot of red meat but I do eat fresh eggs.
 
Bazzar said:
And when i posted the breakdown on Bananas, eggs and berries and I said it was 'fascinating" and a troll replied with "why is it fascinating" why did you give that a thumbs up?
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Must admit I didn't really understand what that post was getting at either.

I need a Dummies Guide explanation.
 
nicky said:
You see, i only ever see LCHFers get trolled, i never see them oppressing the opinions of others or conduct in pathetic trolling.
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I'm sorry but that's not true. I'm not going to mention posters, but it has happened. I may have deleted it or edited it before you saw it.

Early on I believe that the LCHF lifestyle was targeted by some and I did what could to stop that. Posts deleted, infractions given and so forth.

Oppression is an interesting word to use. If you go to a very religious household of people who are very devout, you may not feel comfortable bringing up your beliefs if they won't be well received. You can handle that for a night or two, but if you lived under that environment it can almost feel oppressive to you if you have other beliefs.

I'm not accusing anyone of doing this, I'm purely using it as an example to show you what I believe is starting to happen here. I think that it's great that so many people are so passionate about their lifestyle and want to share this with the world, but there has to be a point where everyone agrees to disagree and be happy for everyone else.
 
Jab said:
I'm sorry but that's not true. I'm not going to mention posters, but it has happened. I may have deleted it or edited it before you saw it.
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You say you delete the LCHF trolls imediately yet you not only keep the opposing trolls posts, you also like the troll posts.

This board is so one sided its not funny. Here we have a thread about LCHF where opposers have been able to troll the shit out of and the last few pages bazzar and myself have had to put up with bullshit accusations that we don't allow opinions, are in a cult etc

All rubbish aside, just live and let live. Bazzar, i highly recommend ignoring their trolls and keep posting like you have been. I always read your posts and find them highly valuable as i'm sure others do. Don't get side tracked by passionless idiots.
 
nicky said:
You say you delete the LCHF trolls imediately yet you not only keep the opposing trolls posts, you also like the troll posts.

This board is so one sided its not funny. Here we have a thread about LCHF where opposers have been able to troll the shit out of and the last few pages bazzar and myself have had to put up with bullshit accusations that we don't allow opinions, are in a cult etc

The board is garbage, hence why i don't bother with it too much anymore.
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I say that I delete posts because it's true and can be verified by any super mod or admin, it's not something that I have the luxury of making up. The post before that wasn't deleted is one that I didn't see and it wasn't reported. When it was quoted then I deleted it within a minute. I previously explained why I liked the previous post but I gather that you do not accept that.

You seem to struggle with comprehending what I am saying. Either you are selecting words out of context, wanting to be offended by my posts, or I'm not explaining myself clearly. As I have had previous complaints about how I explain myself I am happy to be responsible for the confusion.

You are allowed to post on topic in any thread. Threads have been derailed and turned into arguments, which isn't good for anyone. We should be happy to agree to disagree and be happy that others are doing their best to be healthy.

I will not derail this any further, I'll PM you :)
 
nicky said:
No need to PM me. As i said i don't care about the trolls on this board. I just can't sit by and watch bazzar get unfair treatment without saying something.
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All`s good, im going to make a delayed New Year resolution and ignore the 3 main trolls from now on.
Maybe they just need some more of this
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nicky said:
The "LCHFers" (for fk sake) are under constant attack by quite a few posters on this board. Take this thread as the number one example. People who are not into LCHF are offended by the ideas and therefore attack the posters who are on board with it.... Mofra is a perfect example of the passive aggressive shit "LCHFers" ( :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:) have to withstand on this board, referring to them as cultish and even the subtle collective noun "LCHFers" is a passive aggressive swipe.

I actually don't care anymore about the rubbish agression received from posters who are offended by paleo ideas, like admittedly i once was. I always maintained that they should be able to live and let live and if they're offended by the ideas of a thread, then don't post in it.... That simple idea of mine never got off the ground so i honestly have stopped giving the trolls any airtime... However, it's certainly not beneath my new apathy to point out that bazaar is 100% spot on - they're trolls.
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Yes, opposing views are clearly trolls!
How dare anyone contemplate posting a collective noun for any group of individuals.
Check out this effort:

Mofra said:
Isn't this cycled though even for LCHF endurance athletes though, and at different rates depending on the training cycle or during the season?

As I understand it, the AFL players that use LCHF type eating plans still have higher carb days pre- and post- match day and stay at very low carb intakes during the week.

A friend who competes at nation-level triathlons still has a carb loading phase prior to long form events and she's trained with (and occasionally by) some of the better operators going around.
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Oh the travesty!!!

"LCHF endurance athletes" is clearly anti-athlete!

Even worse, posting articles and discussing it with Bazzar:
Mofra said:
Disagree, he's pretty clear in most of his articles (having read many of his) that grams per lb (or kg) is the best way to measure intake to hit the macros - cptkrk who has provided plenty of help over the years and appears to be one of the better PTs going around also talks of protein intake in g per lb terms.


The article also notes that different people have different requirements which I have pointed out a couple of times (and I still state that merely having a difference of opinion doesn't automatically make someone a troll).

Having 4 x ~1hr gym sessions per week plus riding twice per day as a 6'2" 86kg male, my carb requirement (as my protein, fat and total calorie intake) is going to be different than a non-exercising, 55kg female.
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How dare anyone want to discuss and share opposing view-points while posting information from one of the more respected names in nutrition and fitness literature (Lyle McDonald).
I mean, consuming ~150g of carbs per day = must be a troll!

I mean, everyone should just start a new thread on every subtle nuance relating to nutrition, because nobody here has the maturity to accept that others may have opinions. That sort of thing is for forums open for discussion...
 
Sweet Jesus. Some thin skin on show ITT.
 
Jab said:
Serious question. Can anyone remember why a butter alternative was ever invented? I was told growing up that butter was terrible and we only had margarine (filthy product in my opinion), but I didn't eat too much bread so it wasn't a big deal for me. I could never go back to margarine now.
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Ancel Keys, McGovern, Soy industry.
 
Bazzar said:
Getting back on topic, and i hope i dont offend anyone-

Hmmm...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-17/i-can-t-believe-it-s-butter-in-my-unilever-rama-spread.html
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I read that on the weekend and first reaction: thank god.
Most modern healthy eating plans advocate real food over processed shit, and margarine undoubtedly falls into the latter category (heck, my grandfather is still kicking at close to 90 despite being a smoker & drinker and I doubt he even tried margarine his entire life).
 
Finally got around to watching Cereal Killers tonight.

It's brilliant, well worth the effort for anyone who's interested in this topic.
 
nicky said:
You see, i only ever see LCHFers get trolled, i never see them oppressing the opinions of others or conduct in pathetic trolling.
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What bugs me is the people challenging LCHF = Trolls, when the LCHF crowd shout down and post stories and articles they deem counter factual they're just championing LCHF as better than all the rest.....when is a troll not a troll?

I have been trying LCHF and have seen benefits, but i dont think it's hard and fast the only path, but opinions are not facts, and so much of diet and lifestyle choices are personal preference and opinion, not fact.
 
Mofra said:
I read that on the weekend and first reaction: thank god.
Most modern healthy eating plans advocate real food over processed shit, and margarine undoubtedly falls into the latter category (heck, my grandfather is still kicking at close to 90 despite being a smoker & drinker and I doubt he even tried margarine his entire life).
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What i don't understand from people who claim something is processed.....define processed? I am all for butter and ground meat, but those are clearly processed at the most basic level. Why is everyone against "processed food" when everything is technically processed....whats your limit?
 

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