Lethal fights back against Eddie Maguire's ludicrous comments

[Maverick]

I swear Eddie is the biggest drop kick on this planet.

I have posted a number of times on this topic...and I'm glad that Lethal seems to have had enough of Eddie as well, with regard to his comments on the salary cap & the fact they poach our players.

Collingwood poach players from Brisbane & Sydney..yet lead the Melbourne Mafia is trying to stop any concession to keep our players from going home.

The most ludicrous suggestion was that McGuire reputedly had told reporters that the retention system was okay in the allowance, but Brisbane poached players.

As stated on Lions.com.au...."hypocrisy".

From Lions.com.au:

The hypocrisy of Collingwood president Eddie McGuire’s “war” on the AFL for salary concessions to the Brisbane Lions was borne out in full by highly respected Lions coach Leigh Matthews this afternoon........

.......Matthews did not address McGuire’s ungracious claim that Collingwood played in the grand final “with one hand tied behind their back”, but he quickly put all of the Magpie’s wild claims into perspective.....

......“We want to get more Queenslanders on our list but it was Eddie McGuire who led the campaign for the draft concessions to be removed, which means the chances of us getting more on our list over a period of time has been reduced to nothing,” Matthews said......“It’s all bound up in the same thing. If we can get 20 Queenslanders on our list, we don’t think we should have any salary cap allowance, we should be on the same level playing field.

The most ludicrous suggestion was that McGuire reputedly had told reporters that the retention system was okay in the allowance, but Brisbane poached players.

“Nathan Buckley, Anthony Rocca, Shane O’Bree…do those names sound familiar?”

McGuire asked about three grand final players that Collingwood had lured away from other clubs. “We haven’t poached anyone in my time here, we haven’t even thought about it to be honest because we’ve been into retention.

“Let’s face it, I think Brisbane gets caught up with Sydney because Eddie would be pretty concerned that Nick Davis might be being a recruiting target for Sydney.

 

[BSA]

I quite like Eddie

Hey, I even quite like the Pies

and the Pies people on here are great

which is why McGuire's comments on us up here and the situation we are are up against leaves me absolutely dismayed.

WTF is he on about I ask myself ?

At the Swans, we have one (repeat ONE) player from the Sydney Metro area on our list.

If Victorians like Eddie don't want us to keep, er, 'tempting' their youngsters with all this extra cash we are supposed to have then why did he deny us the chance to build a proper local base from which to recruit from ?

Remember, the concessional draft proposal was a mere two extra picks - two.

But no - Eddie and his ilk were prepared to issue writs and go to Court to stop the Swans having first say over TWO promising youngsters from the Sydney Metro area.

And now hes moaning about extra cash for Chrissakes.

I can assure Mr McGuire that we would like nothing better than to pay honest money to our own local boys to play for their own local club - but Eddie isn't prepared to let us be assisted to achieve that it seems.

Wise up and stop yer barracking please Eddie

AFL Football would have been dead, is dead, and will be dead without a strong presence for the game in Australia's most populous and Australia's fastest growing states.

and don't even get me started on the rank hypocracy of it all ...

cheers

 

[Slax]

Eddie has consistently forgotten where his job as a media commentator ends and his role as Collingwood President begins. Brissie had 20 players for over half the game so we actually had one hand tied behind our back.

 

[NICK THE PIE MAN]

What a second.

Leigh is the one that is complaining about 'poaching' players yet he was at the helm at Collingwood and was the instigator that 'poached' Bucks from Brisbane.

Bit hypocritical I think.

 

[baz77]

Originally posted by NICK THE PIE MAN
What a second.

Leigh is the one that is complaining about 'poaching' players yet he was at the helm at Collingwood and was the instigator that 'poached' Bucks from Brisbane.

Bit hypocritical I think.

Name me a coach (not including the ones who were about to be fired) that has not toed the official party line. Coaching is a business and your loyalty and your thoughts lie with who ever is paying your salary. Leigh was an employee of the Collingwood football club so he did what was best, on behalf, in consultation maybe even on instructions of the Collingwood football club. He is now on a salary paid by the Brisbane lions, therefore, is expected to defend the club and hold its line.

Mick Malthouse, when employed by the West Coast Eagles, totted the line of us against the Vics, how quickly though that has changed in recent years. Not a peep has ever come out of Mick in regards to the draft concessions given to West Coast during their foundation years in the VFL; even though this gave rise to the player list he coached in the early-mid 90's.

In this industry, your pocket and your reputation are your actions.

 

[Stocka]

Originally posted by NICK THE PIE MAN
What a second.

Leigh is the one that is complaining about 'poaching' players yet he was at the helm at Collingwood and was the instigator that 'poached' Bucks from Brisbane.

Bit hypocritical I think.

Pretty stupid example, Nick.

Matthews is now coaching the LIONS, thus speaking on behalf of the issues which THIS club faces. That's his job, and that's what matters.

I'm sure there are just as many similar scenarios regarding Malthouse.

What it all comes down to, is that people just don't want to admit that Matthews, and the Lions, are justified in their stance on this particular issue.

 

[Gaz]

Obviously having a salary cap difference is not ideal, but until Brizzy are able to stock up on locals then it seems a fair compromise. Collingwood seem to admit as much when they concede that the Lions and Swans should have some financial leeway to retain players.

It's just an anomoly in a national comp still, to be honest, in it's formative years. Another anomoly is that the GF was played at one team's home ground with the other team travelling 2000 kms.

 

[Denno]

Originally posted by Slax
Eddie has consistently forgotten where his job as a media commentator ends and his role as Collingwood President begins.

Exactly. Near the end of the GF last year, he nearly ruined the commentry on MMM when he stated something along the lines of "Gee, and just imagine how strong they'll be if they get their draft concessions next year". I thought commentators were supposed to be unbiased. Oh, that's right, Presidents don't have to be

 

[luthor]

Everyone is entitled to his or her point of view and so is Eddie McGuire.

What I object to is that Eddie Baby uses his media profile to push his own agenda...... and gets away with it to a great extent.

McGuire being President of Collingwood and a supposedly "unbiased" commenator is the one of the worst examples of conflict of interest imaginable.

WHAT NEXT???............."And for 1 MIYYION dollars.....Brisbane Lions won the 2002 Premiership because..........

A. They're a bunch of low down Rednecks
B. Collingwood wuz robbed by the Umpires
C. They cheated by paying their players more than us Pies were allowed to
D. All of the above........"

With Eddie, nothing would surprise.

 

[ramjet]

dermott brereton on the board at the hawks yet calls hawks games.
garry lyon - ex dees captain calls melbourne games.
tim lane - strong carlton supporter. quit CH9 due to concerns over possible biased commentary from ed but there is apparently no problem in tim calling blues games.
it goes on and on.
as for the footy show - its a CH9 show, not afl run. ed can talk about what he wants. it gets tedious at times(even for this pie fan) but he can use his media influence any way he wants in his capacity as footy show host. comments to the media outside of this are the same as any other presidents comments. some prefer to use the media(ed, jack, to a lesser degree smorgon), others prefer not to. he's entitled to use the media as a forum for expressing the views of collingwood. he doesnt have to be agreed with but he should be heard.

 

[Philj]

Originally posted by ramjet

tim lane - strong carlton supporter. quit CH9 due to concerns over possible biased commentary from ed but there is apparently no problem in tim calling blues games.

First, I have no (well few) problems with Eddie commentating Collingwood games. From teh rumours I heard (all unsubstantiated), the amount of video footage that was retained at teh time of the Buckley striking charge did nothing except increase the spectre of COI. I would prefer if he didn't call but as a ball-by-ball commentator, his influence on perceptions is more limited than special comments men like Brereton and lesser extent Lyon (whose role at Melbourne I thought was less hands-on). Whenever I hear Brereton calling a Hawthorn game, I always have a suspicion that he is keeping something back in terms of analysis of game plan of the Hawks.

Anyway, back to teh above quote, I was under the impression, Tim Lane quit Ch 9 because he (Tim Lane) believed he (Tim)could not sit next to Eddie on Friday nights when he (Tim) believed that Eddie should not be commentating Collingwood games as a President of that club and he (Tim) would be stating this on Saturday as part of his role on the ABC. As you can see the emphasis is on Lane not McGuire.

Whether Eddie has a conflict or not, Tim believed he did and it would have been hypocritical of Tim to sit pat next to him.

 

[luthor]

Just about every commentator doing AFL coverage is known to be a supporter(or have leanings toward) one team.

Every ex-player(and they abound) doing special comments will have a leaning toward their former team(or teams)

Silvagni barracks for Carlton, Brereton is a Hawthorn man. Lyon, McDermott(Adelaide), Matthew Campbell(Brisbane) are a few that readily come to mind.

The difference between these guys and McGuire is that NONE of them are current PRESIDENTS of a football club.

And it shows.......who could forget Eddie's infamous "RRROCCCAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!" call when the Pies played Port earlier this year. Or his groans of disbelief when Rocca missed the goal that would have tied the match?

Apart from McDermott(who always carps and whines when the Crows get a free paid against) the other guys come accross as balanced and thoughtful in their comments.

Eddie comes accross as emotionally involved with Collingwood(which he is).

He is NOT a special comments man, he is a commentator....a big difference.

McGuire is wearing far too many hats at once for most peoples comfort.

His status as President of Collingwood impinges on his ability to call fairly. No question as far as I am concerned. So I don't agree that he DOES deserve to be heard, when what you hear is a view of the Football world primarily according to the President of Collingwood and secondly (and a distant secondly) a view of the footy world by a paid media commentator.

 

[Perrin]

I don't mind Eddie coming across as emotially involved and biased with his Collingwood commentary. Makes it all the more interesting

What get up my nose is using the footy show and other footy broadcasts to push the agenda of the Collingwood football club. That is total abuse of power in my books.

 

[ian68]

I see Eddie shut up once the AFL slaped his wrist. Especially when Jackson suggested, without giving details, that Collingwood was helped by the AFL more than any other Vic Club. He is as shifty as. The interest free loan from HIH is just the beginning.
Eddie may well reign over Collingwood in a premiership year yet, but it will not be due to his moral obligation to uphold fairness and equibility.