Media Lets address the elephant in the room....

[Barrybran]

Hold up. Since when has posting been anything more than a qualifier for selection to ward off inactives?

And how could you possibly infer than GC was better than Strigs at ruck this season? What a crock of sh*t. It's been universally accepted that she was the #1 ruck. All GC did better was tackle more.

Always and easily

I'll save you the trouble:

         Raw Stats
           HO    K    H    M    T   FF   FA    G    B   DT   EX
Strigoi    230  162  157    0   37   23   21   14   10 1232 1341
GreyCrow   194  154  173    1   68   21   18   14    7 1335 1472

         Weather Adjusted
           HO    K    H    M    T   FF   FA    G    B   DT   EX
Strigoi    245  173  167    0   39   25   22   15   11 1314 1430
GreyCrow   183  145  163    1   64   20   17   13    7 1256 1385

And this isn't even taking into account the head to heads that she dominated and yet you refuse to acknowledge because it doesn't suit your agenda.

My agenda? I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure I wasn't the one who posted weather-adjusted stats because my team is cranky that the every other club doesn't agree with us.

 

[Barrybran]

Why are we adjusting for weather, out of interest?

Because it proves my agenda wrong, Headless. Keep up please.

 

[ShaunDuggan]

Why are we adjusting for weather, out of interest?

I wtf'd at that

 

[serial_thrilla]

Why are we adjusting for weather, out of interest?

Because some teams had nicer weather than others this season, and it bumped up their stats. And when CERTAIN PEOPLE only look at said stats and ignore head to head results, it gives a false ranking.

 

[A Swallow]

Because it proves my agenda wrong, Headless. Keep up please.

Because why would we not make it as accurate as possible?
This is also ignoring the fact that PRIOR to weather adjustment, Strigs still wins every important category for a ruck.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Because some teams had nicer weather than others this season, and it bumped up their stats. And when CERTAIN PEOPLE only look at said stats and ignore head to head results, it gives a false ranking.

So, if Marcus Bontempelli played in more wet games than Ollie Wines, does that mean Wines should be stripped of his brownlow and it should be given to Bont?

Maybe your team is just shit in wet weather.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Pretty sure Nat Fyfe played in less wet games during his brownlow years, he musn't have deserved any of them.

 

[NinjaSwan]

It's like how in Supercoach they give out the same number of points every game to reflect influence regardless of conditions or game style, like a 20 touch game where it's the highest in the match is more influential than a 20 touch game when several other players have more.

 

[Barrybran]

Because why would we not make it as accurate as possible?
This is also ignoring the fact that PRIOR to weather adjustment, Strigs still wins every important category for a ruck.

I've heard these arguments already

 

[serial_thrilla]

So, if Marcus Bontempelli played in more wet games than Ollie Wines, does that mean Wines should be stripped of his brownlow and it should be given to Bont?

Maybe your team is just sh*t in wet weather.

Luckily the Brownlow isn't determined by ranking players by their stats at the end of the season.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Luckily the Brownlow isn't determined by ranking players by their stats at the end of the season.

It kinda is.

No way Tom Mitchell is a damaging ball user.

 

[Headless]

Because some teams had nicer weather than others this season, and it bumped up their stats. And when CERTAIN PEOPLE only look at said stats and ignore head to head results, it gives a false ranking.

Because why would we not make it as accurate as possible?
This is also ignoring the fact that PRIOR to weather adjustment, Strigs still wins every important category for a ruck.

I don't know. I'd have to think about it more before opining - was just interested in the rationale.

 

[serial_thrilla]

So, if Marcus Bontempelli played in more wet games than Ollie Wines, does that mean Wines should be stripped of his brownlow and it should be given to Bont?

Maybe your team is just sh*t in wet weather.

And if you're going with that approach: Strigs scored more Mobbs Medal votes than GC.

 

[NinjaSwan]

So, if Marcus Bontempelli played in more wet games than Ollie Wines, does that mean Wines should be stripped of his brownlow and it should be given to Bont?

Maybe your team is just sh*t in wet weather.

Every game still gives out 3-2-1 votes regardless of the weather though, this doesn't apply at all here.

Weather conditions in real life are surely far less influential on stats than in Qooty also.

 

[serial_thrilla]

I've heard these arguments already

And yet you still refuse to listen.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

And if you're going with that approach: Strigs scored more Mobbs Medal votes than GC.

All Australian side would have been a better example...

Do they count the number of wet games played?

 

[ShaunDuggan]

Who was the better poster of the 2? Quantity and quality? I've always thought that quite important, certainly more important than wet adjusted stats.

 

[NinjaSwan]

15 minutes ago I did not care at all who the all SFA ruck would be but now I'm heavily invested in Strigoi getting the spot because it defies believe that you wouldn't factor in conditions / individual game influence and just look at raw stats.


If say a team had all of their games in muddy / rainy conditions and a player was BOG in a majority of them why would you exclude them for someone in another team with higher raw stats but who didn't have the same dominance.

 

[serial_thrilla]

All Australian side would have been a better example...

Do they count the number of wet games played?

You guys just did the equivalent of giving the AA ruck spot to Shane Mumford over Max Gawn because he tackles more.

 

[Barrybran]

And yet you still refuse to listen.

Don't confuse ignorance with applying the data to the selection criteria. I have no skin in this game, serial. You're the one jumping up and down.

 

[A Swallow]

All Australian side would have been a better example...

Do they count the number of wet games played?

They sure as sh*t make horrid calls. You’d think Barrybran would resonate with a Priddis Brownlow year type exclusion

 

[Barrybran]

You guys just did the equivalent of giving the AA ruck spot to Shane Mumford over Max Gawn because he tackles more.

You're being ridiculous mate

 

[NaturalDisaster]

You guys just did the equivalent of giving the AA ruck spot to Shane Mumford over Max Gawn because he tackles more.

You're doing the equivalent of supporters whinging about their players not getting in before the team is even announced.

 

[serial_thrilla]

Don't confuse ignorance with applying the data to the selection criteria. I have no skin in this game, serial. You're the one jumping up and down.

Because I can't comprehend how someone as smart as you could be so foolish.

 

[PMBangers]

Is serial_thrilla being a genuine virgin about the All-SFA still? Just have your players be better and you won't have these issues