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The A's will play in (West) Sacramento from 2025-2027 at a AAA ball park, and just be named "the Athletics" during this time.

This (2024) will now be the last season of the A's in Oakland.

I might be a Padres fan, but F**k John Fisher for what he has done to the Oakland fans.
 
CrowdedHouse said:
All official...



The A's will play in (West) Sacramento from 2025-2027 at a AAA ball park, and just be named "the Athletics" during this time.

This (2024) will now be the last season of the A's in Oakland.

I might be a Padres fan, but F**k John Fisher for what he has done to the Oakland fans.
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There were reports after Peter Seidler died that he was in the process of rallying enough 'no' votes at the Owners meeting to scupper the relocation of the Athletics to Las Vegas. Then he died suddenly and it all fell apart.

I'm a bit miffed about how the Padres treated Bob Melvin, but the combination of their brown & gold colours and their former owner's love for the city and the team certainly make them an attractive team for me to shift my allegiance to after this season.
 

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Still think it's better than 50-50 odds that the relocation to Vegas will fail anyway, especially by the timeline that nepo baby and Kaval set out (opening day 2028, from recollection). There's no way a stadium in Vegas will be ready by opening day 2028.
 
Significant layoffs coming at the end of the season, according to Kaval (as reported by ESPN).

www.espn.com

Athletics to make home in Sacramento for '25-27

The Athletics will spend the next three seasons playing at a minor league ballpark in West Sacramento before their planned move to Las Vegas for the 2028 season.
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Dixie Flatline said:
Still think it's better than 50-50 odds that the relocation to Vegas will fail anyway, especially by the timeline that nepo baby and Kaval set out (opening day 2028, from recollection). There's no way a stadium in Vegas will be ready by opening day 2028.
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The one thing to watch is not only Fisher's struggle to get the finance together to build the stadium, but also Bally's Corp (operators of the now closed Tropicana Casino, who would share the site with the A's) having the credit rating downgraded to virtually junk level, and not having the finance to complete their casino project in Chicago.

If Bally's Corp goes under, it makes a mess for the A's, as the $380M of Nevada Gov funding is (as written in the bill that passed) dependent on the stadium being built on that site.

Plus throw in the two schools over stadiums lawsuits, there's a feeling the Sacramento move is a back-up plan in case things fall apart in Vegas.
 
So I honestly don't know whether I continue to follow the A's now or not?
Followed since '87, deciding whether I change teams or continue to support a team that bears no resemblance to anything I grew up watching.
 
Dan Moody said:
So I honestly don't know whether I continue to follow the A's now or not?
Followed since '87, deciding whether I change teams or continue to support a team that bears no resemblance to anything I grew up watching.
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Change teams. You're team moving is a perfectly valid reason to do so. **** Fisher and **** Vegas
 
Dan Moody said:
So I honestly don't know whether I continue to follow the A's now or not?
Followed since '87, deciding whether I change teams or continue to support a team that bears no resemblance to anything I grew up watching.
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After this season I won't be supporting the team as long as it's owned by Fisher with Weird Dave Kaval as his right hand man. Even this year my support is lukewarm.
 
I'm pretty much done with the situation. It's been pretty shocking to see them tear the heart out of the team to artificially do anything they can to move the team.

Don't know if I can find any other team that I could follow. So many reasons against pretty much any other team.
 

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AJ_2000 said:
I'm pretty much done with the situation. It's been pretty shocking to see them tear the heart out of the team to artificially do anything they can to move the team.

Don't know if I can find any other team that I could follow. So many reasons against pretty much any other team.
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I'm torn between a couple of teams to follow now
The Braves because:
  • I played for Malvern Braves in the 90's
  • Matt Olson is an ex A
  • Ronald Acuna is an ex-Melbourne Ace
The D'Backs because I've always liked Joc Pedersen and the bond between him and his brother.
The Cards because Goldy has always been one of my favourite players.
The Rays because I've followed the Durham Bulls ever since I saw the movie in 89' and they're the Rays Minor affiliate.
 
Upstart Swan said:
Wonder when his eligible for arbitration...because that's when the A's will trade him.
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Read somewhere he is under team control for either four or five years, not sure which. So he will be around through the move to Sacramento and Vegas if the latter goes ahead.
 
Second year blues for Gelof. I have confidence that he'll turn it around eventually, but he's going through some growing pains this season. Same with Esteury Ruiz and Lawrence Butler.
 
The A's designated infielder J.D. Davis for assignment last week and over the weekend, the A's traded Davis (together with cash consideratoins) to the Yankees in exchange for INF Jordan Groshans. The Yankees put RHP Nick Burdi on the 60-day IL to create a roster spot for Davis.

Davis had originally gone to arbitration with the Giants last off-season but the Giants released Davis when they signed former Oakland player Matt Chapman to a free agent contract. Thanks to a quirk in the rules, the Giants managed to get out from the majority of their contract with Davis thanks to the fact they went to arbitration (most contracts in the MLB are fully guaranteed, but not contracts that arise through arbitration). The A's signed Davis to a $2.5 million contract during Spring Training, which when combined with the $1.1 million payout he received from the Giants after being released, only got him to just over 50% of the contract he had agreed with the Giants through arbitration.

Davis played 39 games for Oakland this season, hitting .236/.304/.366 in 135 plate appearances, spending time at first base, third base and as the designated hitter. While Davis was roughly league-average in his offensive production, Oakland decided that they would be better off going in a different direction and announced that he had been designated for assignment during the week. He goes to the Yankees where he will figure to play a role in their post-season push, and may fill in for the injured Giancarlo Stanton, who was placed on the IL with a hamstring injury. Davis can also fill in for the injured Anthony Rizzo, who will miss up to six weeks with a broken forearm.

The Yankees gave up infielder Jordan Groshans to Oakland in exchange for Davis. Groshans was claimed off waivers by the Yankees after he had been released by the Marlins during the off-season. Groshans was removed from the Yankees' 40-man roster in early March and has not produced with the bat in the minors with the Yankees' affiliates, hitting a combined .232/.310/.281 in 50 games between Double-A and Triple-A. Groshans has played at all four infield positions. Groshans was the 12th overall pick by the Blue Jays back in 2018 and was once a highly regarded prospect, so it seems a reasonable lottery ticket for Oakland to take a chance on with Davis clearly not in their plans. The Athletics do have a need for infield reinforcements at both third base and at shortstop.
 
Oakland is set to unveil its no. 1 pick from the 2023 draft in the near future, with reports that Oakland is calling up its top prospect Jacob Wilson (selected sixth in the 2023 draft) to the majors following the All-Star break. Wilson has hit .438 with a 203 wRC+ across 200 plate appearances in the minor leagues this season, with a 3.3% strikeout rate, a 7.8% walk rate. He mainly hits for contact, with a 84.3 mph average exit velocity and a 33.8% hard hit rate. However, Wilson did hit .398/.444/.639 with four home runs and eight doubles in his time at Triple-A Las Vegas Aviators (albeit in a hitter-friendly environment), so there's hope that Wilson will be able to translate that to the majors when baseball resumes this weekend following the All-Star break. The corresponding roster move has not yet been made known.

 
Dixie Flatline said:
Oakland is set to unveil its no. 1 pick from the 2023 draft in the near future, with reports that Oakland is calling up its top prospect Jacob Wilson (selected sixth in the 2023 draft) to the majors following the All-Star break. Wilson has hit .438 with a 203 wRC+ across 200 plate appearances in the minor leagues this season, with a 3.3% strikeout rate, a 7.8% walk rate. He mainly hits for contact, with a 84.3 mph average exit velocity and a 33.8% hard hit rate. However, Wilson did hit .398/.444/.639 with four home runs and eight doubles in his time at Triple-A Las Vegas Aviators (albeit in a hitter-friendly environment), so there's hope that Wilson will be able to translate that to the majors when baseball resumes this weekend following the All-Star break. The corresponding roster move has not yet been made known.

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At least we have one Tier 1 prospect. After all the trading for prospects they've done over the last few years, the Bleachers Report's rating of all MLB farm systems last month had the A's at only #26.
 
Upstart Swan said:
At least we have one Tier 1 prospect. After all the trading for prospects they've done over the last few years, the Bleachers Report's rating of all MLB farm systems last month had the A's at only #26.
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That's on the high side. ESPN's Kiley McDaniel rated the farm 28th or 29th (I can't quite recall which) before the 2024 draft. Keith Law never rates the Athletics' prospects, so I think he'd put the A's 29th or 30th.

There's a madman who writes profiles of all of the A's prospects on the internet. I asked him about his views on Bjay Cooke, the Australian who signed with the A's 12-18 months ago. He wasn't glowing. Hopefully he'll be more excited about Max Durrington when Max moves to the USA next year.

For those that might have missed it, before the draft, the Athletics signed Max Durrington as an international free agent. Paid him a fair signing bonus, which was required as Durrington had committed to going to Arizona State University in 2025 after finishing high school on the Gold Coast this November. He's a 17 year old second baseman who can play centre field if required. Durrington will play in the 2024 Instructional League in September for four weeks, where he'll be playing with the Athletics' 2024 draft class before returning to Australia to finish high school. He'll play for the Brisbane Bandits in the ABL before moving to the USA next March. He's been assigned to Stockton Ports (Low-A). Max is the son of Trent Durrington, who played for the Angels and Brewers between 1999 and 2005.

The Max Durrington Story: 17-year-old Aussie signs big contract with Major League Baseball’s Athletics | Baseball.com.au

Max Durrington from Queensland Gold Coast signs Major League Baseball contract with Athletics Oakland Athletics Trent Durrington Son
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Link to Nathaniel Stoltz's twitter page (he writes a lot about Oakland's prospects):

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And to his website.

Excessive Prospect Analysis: Longform Thoughts on Minor League Baseball

Excessive Prospect Analysis offers in-depth investigations on minor league baseball, with a particular focus on the Oakland Athletics system, but branching into the process of player evaluation and the intersection between minor league statistics and the "eye test."
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